Merged Threads--Dox or STFU please

Discussion in 'Leaks & Legal' started by too_cool_4_school, Mar 26, 2011.

  1. Anonymous Member

    Is that you, Marty?
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  2. The only repeatable outcome which has ever been achieved by spending decades of one's life pretending to have imaginary disembodied space aliens running around in one's head, and then trying to exorcise them is ... insanity.

    That is all Scientology consistently delivers
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  3. Anonymous Member

    GTFO with this FZ shoite
  4. Anonymous Member


    LRH liked to stick rusty metal coat-hangers to force his wife to induce abortion.
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  5. I've met a few. They tend to have a normal side that they show to the wog world so I am not sure you would be able to pick them out if you met them outside of Scientology.
  6. OTBT Member

    Its scary that I actually understand OP, and can follow his lines of reasoning. In the context of Scientology, this is fairly sound reasoning.

    I totally disagree, though. In my opinion, there is no such thing as Clear or OT or Body Thetans. I don't "believe" in that stuff anymore.

    OP, you should take this stuff over to ESMB, you will likely get a better reception over there than here on WWP.
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  7. Anonymous Member

    WTF is this shit?
  8. Anonymous Member

    This thread sucks.
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  9. Anonymous Member

    Great. Now I have to drink.
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  10. BLiP Member

    I still haven't got past Axiom One - these are axioms, remember, not Articles of Faith, but building blocks of logic leading directly from one to the other and, in turn, forming the basis for the subject. Axiom One states:

    First off - look up the word "static" in any wog dictionary and you'll find its an adjective, not a noun. Thus, Axiom One is exactly the same as saying "Life is basically a purple". Further, and in accepting that L Ron Hubbard has turned the word static into a mythical noun, how can this thing postulate and perceive in the absence of anything to postulate upon or the organs of perception? Then there's the whole idea of postulating requiring a language to do so. How can there be a language in the absence of time? And so it goes on . . . Axioms, my fat hairy arse.

    The very foundation upon which the subject rests is so riddled with logic fallacies and leaps of faith as to make it little more than a childish justification for the existence of the Easter Bunny. That there are those who find meaning in the Axioms is testament to the fact that Scientology cripples a person's cognitive functioning.

    Do not want.
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  11. Scientologists find that stuff to be practically mystical and almost Zen like. It's seems to permeate everything in Scientology including auditing sessions. They get huge profound "revelations" (cognitions) about that shit. It's hard to explain even to myself. And it is hard to understand. Nuclear physics is easier to understand (Are you listening Ron?).

    Like you said before: Do not want.
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  12. yes it is Marty and it is leaklicker we have already gone over this, due try and keep up.

    OSA NW



    LRH ED 55 INT, 29 Nov 68 THE WAR
    LRH ED 63 WW 6 US, 12 Dec 68 RE LIFE ARTICLE
    TAPE 6709C20 Special, 20 Sept 67 RON'S JOURNAL '67)

    We have discovered exactly who has been shooting at
    Scientology for 18 years and known all the names. They are a
    small group with international ambitions, founded by a madman,
    taken over by a politically ambitious few.

    The fight was their fear we would break them financially.
    If Scientology was the real answer, they would have to cease
    torturing and killing "patients" and there would go their

    Well, they have now been hurt bad enough to make them
    move their HQ.

    So the fight isn't all going one way. Press and public
    sentiment are swinging to our side. And we have not yet
    mounted a real offensive.

    This is turning out to be a bitter and fundamental war.
    The forces which seek to bring light and freedom to the world
    - us - have run squarely into the # 1 engram of the planet,
    kept alive by a dark and secret enemy of Mankind. These
    insist on torturing or killing the insane.

    It is a terrible hypocrisy for them to say we hurt
    people. Anyone who has "suffered" at our hands is still free,
    well and able to complain. The victims of the enemy in his
    institutions are like Hitler's death camps. Their victims
    can't complain. They can't even walk. They're dead.

    It is the age old battle of truth and light against the
    powers of darkness.

    We didn't ask for this fight. We weren't even in the
    enemy's line of country. We avoided treating the insane.

    But they attacked us, for no reason except their own
    fear. I regret they appointed us their executioners. There
    are so many other pleasant things to do.

    But, with the enemy active in legislatures and the press,
    we haven't much choice but to fight

    Unpublished work: Copyright (c) 1987 L. Ron Hubbard Library

    --page break--

    OSA NWO 7 -2-

    And we have begun to fight.

    We have already hurt his morale and finances enough to
    make him move his HQ.

    Our forces are closing in on it again in the new

    This one we've got to win. We may not have another


    Adopted as official
    Church policy by



    OSA NW


    (Originally an undated LRH note. Issued
    an OSA NW Order on 6 February 1988.)

    It may be possible to conduct a government without direct
    taxation of individuals, but by causing the government to
    engage upon services to the population which obviate the
    necessity of personal taxation and all the ills to which that
    is prone. It is highly possible that a government only enters
    upon individual taxation when its ability to produce service
    for its citizens has dropped below the point of non-existence.

    A government is justified only so long as it serves the
    people. A business goes bankrupt when it is not voluntarily
    contributed to. A government goes Fascist.


    OSA NW



    Black propaganda is a covert communication of false data
    intended to injure, impede or destroy the activity or life of
    another person, group or nation, usually issued from a false
    or removed source from the actual instigator.

    It is used heavily in "psychological warfare."

    It is a specialized technology of its own.

    It relies chiefly on the technique of "classification" of
    another or a group or a nation as undesirable or evil.

    It has many counter weapons and is itself essentially
    fragile because it is false.

    Dianetics, Scientology and myself for a very long time
    have been subjected to a very standard black propaganda
    campaign instigated by trained persons - the AMA in the US,
    the British Psychological Association in Australia, the
    National Association of Mental Health in England and

    What is being attempted by black propagandists is to
    _classify_ us firmly in the public mind by constant repetition
    of certain words like "cult." The more we let such
    propagandists do this, the more chance we give them, the more
    opportunity they have.

    A black artist has to be carefully trained to do this and
    I am suddenly quite interested in such fellows. It isn't just
    "the way things are written." Such are well trained
    intelligence pros in the field of psychological warfare.

    Psychiatry today advises advertising and propaganda and
    designed of course this campaign we have experienced.

    The subject is even touched on by Dr. Thomas Szasz as a
    psychiatric technique in his book _Ideology_and_Insanity_,
    page 49, chapter 4, page 53 section IV, page 67 section IX
    and his whole article "Psychiatric Classification as Personal
    Restraint", page 190 of the same book. Of these, page 53
    section IV is the most interesting in application to this
    subject of classification.

    "Classification is a social act. The
    Classification of individuals or groups entails the
    participation of at least three different types of

    Unpublished work: Copyright (c) 1987 L. Ron Hubbard Library

    --page break--

    OSA NWO 15 -2-

    persons: Classifier, Classified, and a public
    called upon to accept or reject a particular

    While Szasz is not using it as it applies to
    psychological warfare (black propaganda) or advertising, it is
    nevertheless a key point in psychiatric planning of any campaign.

    The AMA counts on this utterly.

    So this is their one trick.

    To cancel an enemy's chief weapon is in itself a part of

    To cease to be the effect of classification and become
    in our turn the cause of it, the classifier, is to win the
    propaganda game.

    Our propaganda is dirty but it is not black because it is
    true. Black propaganda is essentially false.

    We can do this trick by survey and attack. As what is
    attacked is already popularly evil, we become re-classified as
    attackers and the enemy as bad hats as they're _for_ the evil
    if they attack us.

    We won't be running a _black_ campaign as we deal in

    Black campaigns ARC break people since they depend on
    false reports and are thus out-_R_. Hence your dead agent
    actions work.

    We just run propaganda campaigns.

    The objective is to be identified as attackers of
    popularly considered evils. This de-classifies us from former
    labels. It re-classifies our attackers as evil people. Which
    they are.

    In the book _Black_Boomerang_ by Sefton Delmer (1962)
    published by Secker and Warburg, London, Delmer gives various
    formulas of black propaganda used in WW II. They used
    _intelligence_ to get enough facts to run a convincing but
    fake "German radio station" from England.

    Since WW II psychiatry has moved its techniques into
    advertising and propaganda and the think of these is in the
    Szasz references above.

    So we

    1) Seek to avoid opportunities for the enemy to classify

    2) Contest or expose any previous classification as
    false (dead agentry, etc.)

    3) Engage in a series of campaigns which confuse past

    4) Achieve for ourselves a dominance in classifying
    ourselves and others.

    --page break--

    OSA NWO 15 -3-

    Out of this strategic planning can come operating
    policies and campaigns.


    Adopted as official
    Church policy by



    OSA NW


    Plot a government - any government on Earth today - as
    you would plot an individual on the tone scale.

    What do you find?

    A murderer, a non-producer, a thing unable to run engrams
    - in short, an insane person.


    The invention of the "official act" as different from a
    "personal act" was the beginning of governments sufficiently
    insane to cause war.

    Definition of an insane person: An individual who is not
    personally responsible for his own acts.

    Definition of a public official: An individual who is not
    personally responsible for his own acts.

    Result: Insane Government.


    Adopted as official
    Church policy by



    RPR Int/Conts
    SOCO Int/Conts
    FCB Executive
    OSA NW


    The factual reasons are:

    1. The Roman Empire was overthrown by Christianity and
    this is deeply engrained in history.

    2. Religions force a morality on governments which they
    would rather not have much to do with. Any religious leaders
    in the past century and even in the past half century have
    taken the government to task, amongst them Cardinal

    3. The government knows it can't function without the
    allegiance of a population. Religious people tend to give
    their allegiance to God. The government is jealous of this
    divided attention.

    4. Psychiatry and psychology try to bend the will of the
    people. Both subjects are violently atheistic and can only
    survive providing they can maintain a monopoly on the control
    of the minds of children and the population at government

    5. Governments fear the arising of a spiritual leader
    who may lead the population to resist decrees and
    exploitation. They therefore try to depopularize, blacken the
    reputation of, or assassinate any potential spiritual leader.

    Religious persecution occurs at those times when a
    government is ruthless and oppressive and seeks total
    dominance of the citizenry. Since World War II, we have been
    trying to live with such a government.


    Adopted as official
    Church policy by


    Unpublished work: Copyright (c) 1988 L. Ron Hubbard Library

    (1) Cardinal Spellman, Francis Joseph, 1889-1967, U.S.
    Roman Catholic clergyman: Archbishop of New York 1939-67.
    (Random House Dictionary of the English Language, Second


    OSA NW
    Invest, Legal
    PR Staff



    In dealing with governments, one would usually go on the
    theory that the government has stupidly accepted false
    information into its files and is riding or leaning on one
    because of it. This would be a relatively sane

    However, one cannot rule out another possibility. The
    government could be willfully manufacturing false reports in
    order to get rid of somebody.

    Thus one can see that a superficial DAing of each false
    report would wind up as perpetual motion as one is dealing
    with a lie factory.

    The insane covertly execute hidden destructive
    intentions. By all standards modern governments are not sane.

    Thus, somewhere at the bottom of the pile is some hidden

    In collecting government files and the various false
    reports in them, through the use of Freedom of Information
    Act, it is not enough to simply see they are false and DA
    them. This of course is a necessary action but is NOT _the_
    basic action.

    One needs to construct a data bank of all documents and
    cross-index to get _all_ documents in their possession - using
    one file to find things that will detect the existence of
    unrevealed additional documents.

    This is not the final use of the data bank.

    As in any insane being, one is looking for the basic
    intention that prompts the false reports factory to operate.

    Somewhere at the bottom of the mess there will be found a
    being and an intention.

    As one is dealing with the insane it probably won't be
    logical. It will be what it is.

    Confrontation of a government agency and DAing cools them
    down and causes them to back down. This is an insane
    attribute - to fear disclosure and greatly value their rickety
    PR. So nothing in this should inhibit doing that.

    But the end of this trail will be a blockbuster of a
    hidden order or intention.

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    OSA NWO 19 -2-

    It will have come from an insane individual with insane
    plans, with an insane idea that we could end it.

    This is not it but a crude example: "they make people
    think, so my plans to get the whole country crushed might be
    detected." But that would be too sane.

    More like: "they are really able to handle drugs so we
    would have to fire all our veterinaries."

    Someone insane has been on this line.

    It will be among the earliest dates and the craziest

    This is what the data bank, made up of documents obtained
    through the Freedom of Information Act, will eventually turn
    up if we carry right on through. And, documented and
    publicized, will blow the whole thing.

    You have seen how far-fetched the lies are and how
    ineffective the effort really is.

    Well, don't overlook that the false reports are willfully
    false and prompted by some basic intent we have not yet
    unmasked - but which we will.


    Adopted as official
    Church policy by


    OSA NW


    The following quote from _The_Shadow_War,_European_
    Resistance_1939_-_1945_ (written by Henry Michel, published
    by Harper & Row) is of value in handling the existing scene.
    Psychiatrists urged these measures on Hitler and carried them

    David Rockefeller is priding himself on having reduced
    U.S. population to a decline and arrested the human
    population explosion by sterilization, abortion and other

    The Rockefellers financed the German beginnings of

    Special attention is drawn to the last sentence in the
    quote as it confirms current strategic planning.

    "It is almost inconceivable that human beings
    should be capable of the cold decision to exterminate,
    by a sort of metaphysical death sentence, millions of
    their fellow men without distinction of age or sex.
    In Poland, Lithuania and Russia the nazis collected
    the Jews into a number of ghettos, into which they
    also crowded Jews no longer living there and Jews
    brought in from other areas. Each ghetto formed a
    closed Jewish world, an isolated entity from both the
    human and the economic points of view. This might
    have been the initiation of a plan of total
    segregation, but in fact it was only one phase in a
    monstrous scheme.

    "In two speeches early in 1942 Hitler announced
    that the Jews would be annihilated. Technical
    'trials' in the USSR had proved the 'inadequacy' of
    existing methods - mass shootings, cremation of the
    bodies in furnaces and mobile gas chambers. But the
    German chemists now had a 'quick and clean' solution:
    they had produced a deadly gas named Zyklon B which,
    after encouraging trials, the 'specialists' considered
    full of promise.

    "The method adopted was to construct gas chambers
    camouflaged as shower baths in certain camps in Poland
    - the main one was at Birkenau; to these were attached

    Unpublished work: Copyright (c) 1987 L. Ron Hubbard Library

    --page break--

    OSA NWO 32 -2-

    giant crematoria in which the bodies were burnt. The
    number of Jews rounded up all over Europe and carted
    to the 'death camps' is estimated at six million. At
    least as many others fell victim to the maltreatment
    meted out to them in the ghettos, the diseases which
    raged there and German action in suppressing revolts
    such as that in Warsaw.

    "The death of the Jews was in no way necessary to
    ensure the victory of nazi Germany; this hideous crime
    was entirely gratuitous. Its gigantic proportions
    were only realised after the war, through the Polish
    Resistance had managed to contact certain deportees
    and pass information to its government in London. The
    warnings and threats issuing from the BBC made no
    difference to the murderers' determination. With
    hindsight, however, it is clear that in the eyes of
    European Resistance this massacre more than anything
    else legitimised, indeed sanctified, their action."


    Adopted as official
    Church policy by



    OSA NW
    Invest Staff



    When an agent or operative turns in summaries or
    documents, these are poured into the main intelligence files
    and any "special bank" that is of current interest.

    These main files or "special banks" can be made to
    operate like computers without the bother of electronic

    Modified only by errors of concentrated attention where
    none should be going or omissions of areas that should be
    under collection, these files or "special banks" will divulge
    new data.

    Here is where we leave the subject of intelligence
    reports (See HCO PL 25 April 1968, _INTELLIGENCE_ACTIONS_) and
    enter the field of ESTIMATION AND PREDICTION.

    A main file is where everything is filed. A "special
    bank" is a separate file where data is ADDITIONALLY AND ALSO
    filed relating to an exact subject.

    When filing and cross-indexing is kept up to date (and it
    always must be) it is not possible to begin the work of

    This is done by examining the main files and locating the
    fattest folders related to any one group or subject. Let us
    say one is just now interested in dog catchers. The
    cross-file index, if properly prepared, will show that several
    dog catchers are in the main files. One simply pulls their
    files from the main file, leaving a dummy to catch new filings
    and to show where the main file is, and makes a "special
    bank". This is not the Dog Catcher Special Bank.

    Now if you look at the above paragraph again you will see
    that SOMEONE had to say that "we are now interested in dog
    catchers." This in essence is an ESTIMATION in a crude form.
    One noticed by general observation that there simply seemed to
    be a log about dog catchers lately getting into the main file.
    So the head of the section being alert decides that there
    might be something growling in that area. So he rapidly makes
    up a "special bank" of all files that seem to be concerned to
    some degree with dog catching.

    Noticing that we should be looking at these dog catchers
    is what could be called "flair". It's a "Hey, looking this
    over we seem to have a lot of dog catchers lately, so I better
    get some data on them and make an estimation."

    No file or computer can actually THINK. It can however
    be so arranged that QUANTITY begins to show up around certain

    Unpublished work: Copyright (c) 1987 L. Ron Hubbard Library

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    OSA NWO 35 -2-

    names and that a casual examination of those names shows they
    seem to have dog catching in common.

    So an Estimator, working the files routinely, having
    noticed this, would make a "special bank".

    The "special bank" is not very elaborate. It can be as
    crude as simply spreading out the folders on a desk and

    It can be as elaborate as making a new card index for
    every name in those files and what file they came out of; then
    filing these cards in alphabetical order. As one has taken
    EVERY name out of each file in turn and put each on a separate
    card, it is obvious that when one then puts them in
    alphabetical order, the names in common to two or more files
    will occur as two or more cards.

    If agents are trained to collect all names and
    connections of names on every investigation and if these names
    are supplemented by adding in directories, and if filing has
    been kept up so that a file exists for every name, when you
    choose files for a special bank they will be the fattest on
    that subject. And when you work the special bank over again,
    you will get the precise common denominators of people that
    run through several files.

    You can now say, "Get me more data on Mr. Plow, Mr.
    Row, Mr. Bow and Mrs. Snap" and when that data comes in (and
    is added to main files but especially to this "special bank")
    you will suddenly find yourself expanding ABOVE the level that
    your special bank was at before. In other words, you have
    found new horizons.

    You will find if you do this that Mr. Plow and Mr. Row
    are just goofballs or dogmeat sellers, that Mr. Bow died last
    year and that Mrs. Snap is all you have left.

    So we look up Mrs. Snap even further, "Hey, go look over
    Mrs. Snap again" and we suddenly find she was receiving money
    for a fund called "Kennel Support" but was actually the head
    of a dog catcher ring.

    We can now PREDICT.

    If we are out to handle the dog catchers we will have to
    work on Mrs. Snap to get her to reform.

    We can write up a program like this:


    "The situation is that dogs are getting caught." "The WHO
    is Mrs. Snap." "The following program based on best advices
    should be carried out:

    "1. Confront Mrs. Snap and get her attitude .........

    One needn't elaborate for it is obvious that many ways
    exist to legally and ethically persuade Mrs. Snap to give up
    her career of crime.

    The tools one is using consist of looking for people or
    groups that are themselves outpoints. This is about all the
    relationship this has to the Data Series.

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    OSA NWO 35 -3-

    The police use a crude version of filing which does not
    bear much resemblance to this. They have a RECORD of someone
    and they just keep adding to it and adding to it, putting in
    false reports, opinions, anything. If someone is "after" that
    person for some reason or another, they pull out the file and
    use it. This is a "dossier system" in such vogue with the
    Czar's Cheka[1] and copied ever since and even put into

    There is no excuse for a 'dossier system" as it has a
    suppressive action on everyone: the files one by one are used
    as a sort of punishment system. It exists to catch
    individuals without relation to general situations. Thus
    police continually find themselves up against increasing crime
    since they do not handle broad situations relating to crime.
    The reason this is apparent is that if they did use a
    different approach they would have found a long while ago that
    their violent crime was occurring amongst people recently in
    mental institutions or prisons and it would have led them to
    condemn the ineffectualness of the psychiatrist, psychologist
    and look for other means.

    An exception is where an intelligence action is
    undertaken by police to combat organized crime or groups but
    here again they do not achieve reduction (as witnessed by
    statistics) as their system never leads them outside the group
    being investigated. They consume countless hours of "law
    enforcement" policeman and judge time which could be saved if
    they adopted a more streamlined system which, amongst other
    things, weeded out false reports or vexatious complaints with
    no foundation in fact.

    The only point here is that filing systems DO exist other
    than the one being described and that the effectiveness of a
    filing system is rewarded by saving time and energy and the
    achievement of its actual purpose of situation predicting and

    One can vary this system of intelligence filing and
    making "special banks" in a number of ways. One can shortcut
    everything in it but the actual making of the main files and
    the actual pulling of "special banks" and studying them.

    One can keep a main system of individuals flanked by a
    cross-index system of groups which shows how many individuals
    in the main bank fit into each specific group.

    One can keep a main file of groups and flank it by
    "special banks" of individuals who are common to one another
    or to groups.

    The whole point is that ALL data by name and separately
    by group must get into the main files.

    The action of estimation is helped by a system that shows
    some GROUP getting fat with names.

    The action of prediction is always done by forming a
    "special bank" for study and sorting out.

    The action of programming comes from any data in the
    individual or the group file.

    The material is from newspaper accounts, literature
    issued, corporation filings, from almost innumerable types of

    --page break--

    OSA NWO 35 -4-

    Knowledge of the Data Series outpoints prevents one from
    buying false reports in the files and careful cross-filing
    eliminates the innocent bystander; these two things can defeat
    any intelligence system: accepting false data and hitting
    innocent bystanders; this is the fault of nearly every system
    in existence.

    Intelligence filing done well, estimated well, furnishes
    predictions which can be programmed and situations can be
    handled that would otherwise drop on one from an apparently
    clear sky.


    Adopted as official
    Church policy by


    [1] Cheka: n. a former commission in the Soviet Union acting
    as a secret police, charged with protection from
    counterrevolution. (_World_Book_Dictionary_ of the English
  21. Anonymous Member

    Marty won't say that LRH made mistakes, or that Source was not correct about all "The Tech".

    OSA NW
    Legal Staff





    It's been my experience with government employees that
    they don't know their own codes and laws and will pretend to
    quote non-existent statutes.

    They might simply _tell_ you that there is something
    wrong with what you're doing when there actually isn't.

    One is prone to underestimate the criminality of certain
    government agencies. I know of many instances of the above.
    It's one of the ways they operate.

    So, any government allegations should be looked over very
    carefully as they are very suspect.


    Adopted as official
    Church policy by

  23. OTBT Member

    Do you have scans of these?
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  24. Anonymous Member

    I would normally ask for sauce but osa nw 17 I have seen before.
  25. The Only thing Consistent with LRH tech is it never works. Prove me wrong.
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  26. Anonymous Member

    Kinda miss the point.
    Axioms are where you lay down the basic ground rules. Redefining terms is OK, as long as the definitions are internally consistent.

    If we break this down:

    P ≡ "has the property of"
    A ≡ "has the ability of"
    Life :⇔ Static

    ∀Static : Life(Static), ~P(mass) ∧ ~P(motion) ∧ ~P(wavelength) ∧ ~P(location(space)) ∧ ~P(location(time)), A(postulation) ∧ A(perception)

    Its not an illogical statement.
    My guess is, you may be mistaking Hubbard's faulty grasp of science and phenomenology, for a failure of logic.

    I have not read the rest of his "axioms" and I can't say whether or not he fails logic shortly after the first, but there aren't any glaring problems with this one.
  27. Anonymous Member

    Anyone else wondering where the Dox are? Most of the time OP posts dox, but where are they now?
  28. I have scans but i'm not going to post them, I have lots of stuff which I'm not going to post because it's paper hard copies and although I have a Scanner a lot of people on these threads are dicks and its not worth the effort
  29. Anonymous Member

    Then it's not worth the effort for you to post stories we can't see from another source.

    It's Dox or STFU
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  30. CarterUSP Member

    What is this thread? OPs opinion? Based on hidden dox? Or made entirely of fail?
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  31. Anonymous Member

    Even if people are dicks like this guy... I kind of agree with him. Without other evidence.... your words are Hearsay. We can't use this, Sure Some Scilons may recognise your words. But Anonymous needs dox. We can't just take your word for it. That is the path of the Scientologost.
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  32. OTBT Member

    How about if someone asks politely for scans of these? I've never read most of these before. And I generally don't believe the text of Marty "leaks" which are meaningless, since they are just plain text that anyone could write.

    I would recommend you post scans over on ESMB, where they would be more receptive, except that ESMB doesn't allow scans of dox to be posted over there.

    If you really want people to read and pay attention to this stuff, either posting scans or photos of actual dox are the way to go. Otherwise, the oft repeated mantra of "Dox or STFU" will get thrown at you. Nothing personal, it's just an old rule here.

    Up to you, whatever you want to do.
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  33. Anonymous Member

    OP, Dox or STFU is nothing personal, it's a standard response here whenever anyone posts information without proof of claims.
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  34. Don't believe them if you don't want to. Just remeber I'm lazy and am not going to make all this shit up.
    OTBT I don't want or care if people read this shit or not I don't care for what people think, I've made that clear here. I just posted them because I wanted to post them that's all.
    You can read it like a normal person or you can read it like a Scientologist and want proof that they are real.

    FYI any one can make false photos of documents so that proves nothing. You can find some old paper print what ever you want on it take a low quality scan and post it on the internet and claim that they are real.

    What we need here is carbon dating that will prove if it is real or not.
    No wait the person who does the carbon dating could of been paid off or have some vested interest. So shit it seems like we are fuck out of luck on the proof front.
  35. S C I E N T O L O G Y P O L I C Y D I R E C T I V E

    SCN POLICY DIRECTIVE 28 13 August 1982





    “A SUPPRESSIVE PERSON or GROUP is one that actively seeks, by action or statement, to suppress or damage Scientology or a Scientologist by Suppressive Acts.

    “SUPPRESSIVE ACTS are acts calculated to impede or destroy Scientology or a Scientologist in his studies or counselling, or to affect adversely his well-being.” (HCO PL 16 May 80 II)

    It is a SUPPRESSIVE ACT to deal with a Declared SUPPRESSIVE PERSON unless you are the named terminal to deal with the SP (i.e. Sea Org MAA). Per the above referenced PL, “continued adherence to a person or group accurately pronounced a Suppressive Person or Group by HCO” is a Suppressive Act.

    To maintain a line with, offer support to, or in any way grant credence to such a person indicates nothing more than agreement with that person's destructive intentions and acts. Such dealings in fact act as a covert or overt attempt to undermine and negate the ethics and justice strengths of our ecclesiastical structure.

    Standard on-policy lines exist should a Declared SP seek to set things right and make up for damage caused.

    So labeled and declared, a person claiming injustice has the right to request a Committee of Evidence via their nearest HCO.

    However, unless you are the named authorized terminal to deal with the Suppressive Person, to deal with one constitutes no less than a Suppressive Act. Such an act is cause to have levied against you the same per policy Church justice procedures afforded any Suppressive Person. Full ethics penalties will be applied.

    Where the matter concerns family relations or where a Scientologist is in the position of being closely associated to a person found to be Suppressive the materials covering Potential Trouble Sources apply. There is no practice of “disconnection" allowed in the Church of Scientology and these materials cover completely how one may use proper lines and procedures to handle a PTS condition.

    One does not however use a false excuse of “handling my PTS condition” to covertly maintain a line of supportful dealings and agreements with an SP. If you wish to maintain such a line, do so outside of current and future membership in the Church.

    To deal with a Suppressive is a Suppressive Act.

    The above is unequivocal Church Policy.


    for the


  36. S C I E N T O L O G Y P O L I C Y D I R E C T I V E

    26 JANUARY 1997





    Scientology Policy Directive A NEW ISSUE TYPE

    This issue serves to clarify the background and role of Scientology Policy Directives. Specifically, it addresses how SPDs originated, and their role with respect to LRH policy for Scientology organizations.

    LRH personally advised and directed Church management to create “Scientology Policy Directives” as an issue type. Scientology organizations are corporations and have certain legal obligations. In accordance with LRH policy, particularly HCO PL 15 August 1960, DEPARTMENT OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS and HCO PL 31 January 1964, CORPORATION COORDINATOR, corporate boards are responsible for maintaining these obligations.

    LRH insisted that the Church establish a distinct issue type for policy for such matters. This occurred during the time of the 1982 corporate reorganization to establish the structure of the Church--the structure which LRH advised to lead Scientology stably into eternity.
    LRH recognized, as part of this, that Church management would need their own type of policy issue in the years to come.

    Scientology Policy Directives are used to set forth internal administrative or Church policy. They are not senior to HCO PLs or HCOBs, or any other LRH issue type, and may not cancel any LRH issue. Indeed, SPDs do not even cover the same subjects as the LRH issues.

    The purpose and approval lines for SPDs, as well as the policy for their review and appeal line, are fully covered in the first Scientology Policy Directive, 23 February 1982R, Revised 15 November 1987, A NEW ISSUE TYPE, SCIENTOLOGY POLICY DIRECTIVE.


    Authorized by


    Unpublished work: © 1997 CSI. All Right Reserved. SCIENTOLOGY, HCO and LRH are trademarks and service marks owned by Religious Technology Center and are used with its permission. Printed in U.S.A.
  37. The Work was Free
    by L. Ron Hubbard
    I have been at work for seven years to produce a series of techniques which any well-trained auditor can use to clear people. We now have them.
    I am truly sorry that this took seven years. Actually, it took more than twenty-five.
    Under other “systems of research” it could not have been done. It was financed at first by my writings and expeditions. Some 15,000,000 words of fact and fiction articles ranging from political articles to westerns were consumed in a large part by this research—but it was free to act if not free from sweat.
    No bullying dictator wanted it for his mass slaveries as happened to poor misguided Pavlov. No big corporation wanted it for a better Madison Avenue approach to advertising—another kind of slavery. No big RESEARCH FOUNDATION like Ford was there to interject their “America First” philosophy. These had not paid for it; therefore they didn’t own it. The work stayed free. Thus it prospered. It did not wither in support of some aberrated “cause.” It bloomed.
    But the violence of protecting this work while continuing it took a toll nevertheless. Special interests believed it must be evil if they did not own it. Between 1950 and 1956, 2,000,000 traceable dollars were spent to halt this work. Newspaper articles, radio ads (as in Seattle from the University of Washington), bribed “patrons,” financed “patients” all cost money. You hear the repercussions of this campaign even today.
    Money could not stop this work by then. It was too late. If anything had been wrong with our organizations, my character, our intentions or abilities the whole advance would have crumbled. But we had no Achilles’ heels. We carried on. All that has survived of this attack by the two APAs, the AMA and several universities is a clutter of rumors concerning your sanity and mine—and rumors no longer financed will some day die.
    And so the work has emerged free of taint and misguided slants. It is itself. It does what it says it does. It contains no adroit curves to make one open to better believing some “ism.” That makes it singular today in a world gone mad with nationalism. Buddhism, when it came to the millions, was no longer free of slant and prejudice. Taoism itself became a national jingoism far from any work of Lao-tse. Even Christianity had its “pitch.” And if these great works became curved, with all the personal force of their creators, how is it that our little triumph here can still be found in a clear state?
    Well, no diamonds and palaces have been accepted from rajahs, no gratuitous printing of results has been the gift of warlords, no testament had to be written 300 years after the fact.
    For this we can thank Johann Gutenberg, and the invention of magnetic tape.
    Therefore, although we have no such stature as the Great Philosophies, I charge you with this—look to source writings, not to interpretations. Look to the original work, not offshoots.
    If I have fought for a quarter of a century, most of it alone, to keep this work from serving to uphold the enslavers of man, to keep it free from some destructive “pitch” or slant, then you certainly can carry that motif a little further.
    I’ll not always be here on guard. The stars twinkle in the Milky Way and the wind sighs for songs across the empty fields of a planet a Galaxy away.
    You won’t always be here.
    But before you go, whisper this to your sons and their sons—“The work was free. Keep it so.”
    L. Ron Hubbard
    Excerpt from: Scientology Clear Procedure, Issue One, December, 1957

    Achilles’ heel: a portion, spot, area or the like, that is especially or solely vulnerable. In Greek myth­o­logy, Achilles was an illustrious Greek warrior. He had been dipped in the river Styx (one of the mythological rivers of Hell) by his mother, which rendered him invulnerable except in the heel by which she held him. He was fatally wounded by an arrow in that heel.
    AMA: abbreviation for American Medical Association: a professional physicians’ organization, established in 1847, with the stated purpose of promoting public health, protecting the welfare of doctors and supporting medical science.
    Ford Foundation: a large private trust, which was established in 1936 by Henry and Edsel Ford. Its original aim supposedly was to found a scientific study of man.
    Ford, Henry: (1863–1947) American industrialist, pioneer automobile manufacturer, organizer and president of the Ford Motor Company, one of the largest automobile companies in the world. His son Edsel took over as president of Ford Motor Company in 1919. After Edsel died in 1943, Henry Ford took over control of the company again until 1945, when his grandson, Henry Ford II took over, modernized the administrative structure and made other changes that helped the company continue to prosper.
    Gutenberg, Johann, c.1397–1468, German printer, believed to have been the first European to print with movable type.
    jingoism: Extreme nationalism characterized especially by a belligerent (= inclined or eager to fight; aggressive) foreign policy.
    Lao-tse: (604–531 B.C.) Chinese philosopher: reputed founder of Taoism. Taoism: a Chinese religion and philosophy based on the doctrines of Lao-tse. Tao means a way of knowing how to know. The literal translation of the word Tao is knowingness.
    Madison Avenue: a street in New York where many large advertising companies have their offices.
    Milky Way: (astronomy) the spiral galaxy containing our solar system. With the naked eye it is observed as a faint luminous band stretching across the heavens, composed of innumerable stars, most of which are too distant to be seen individually.
    Pavlov: Ivan Petrovich Pavlov (1849–1936), Russian physiologist. Noted for behavioral experiments in which he sounded a bell while presenting food to a dog, thereby stimulating the natural flow of saliva in the dog’s mouth. After the procedure was repeated several times, the dog would salivate at the sound of the bell, even when no food was presented.
    two APAs: reference to the American Psychiatric Association and the American Psychological Association. American Psychiatric Association: an organization formed in the United States in 1844, as the Association of Medical Superinten­dents of American Institutions for the Insane, by thirteen superintendents of mental hospitals. It later changed its name to American Psychiatric Association. It promotes the use of psychiatry and seeks to protect and forward the vested interests of psychiatrists. American Psychological Asso­cia­tion: an association of psychologists and educators whose purpose is to advance psychology as a practice.

    © 1999 CSEU. All Rights Reserved. Grateful acknowledgement is made to L. Ron Hubbard Library for permission to reproduce selections from the copyrighted works of L. Ron Hubbard. _L. Ron Hubbard, Scientology, the L. Ron Hubbard signature, and the Scientology symbol are trademarks and service marks owned by Religious Technology Center and are used with its permission. Services relating to Scientology religious philosophy are delivered throughout the world exclusively by licensees of the Church of Scientology with the permission of the Religious Technology Center, holder of the Scientology and Dianetics trademarks. Printed in Denmark.
  38. B O A R D P O L I C Y L E T T E R

    General Non-Remimeo 30 May 1974
    PR Posts
    Dist Secs
    Port Captains

    C O N F I D E N T I A L

    PR SERIES 24


    It is a not too infrequent part of the job of a PRO to encounter hostile
    contacts. To handle such, one has to be fast and effective at dead agenting.
    Every successful PRO knows how to dead agent and wins.

    As the tech on dead agenting and handling hostile contacts is scattered in
    various P/Ls and write-ups, it is issued collectively now as policy for use.
    Learn these techniques well. Use them with success!

    Passages taken directly from L. Ron Hubbard's writings or from transcripts of
    his verbal briefings are in italics [indented]. Other passages are from D/G
    PRO WW write-ups reproduced by courtesy of the Guardian's Office.

    These materials relate directly to

    PR Series 23 The Press Book
    PR Series 22 Press Conferences,
    Preparation for


    It is my specific intention that by the use of professional PR tactics
    any opposition be not only dulled but permanently eradicated. This
    takes data and planning before positive action can occur. (LRH)

    Never let entheta pass unhandled. Prevention is better than cure. Handle
    fast, handle with live communication, handle with documentation, use PR
    technology including tone scale evaluation. Liaise with your senior and the
    other divisions/bureaux. Maintain ethics presence and see the matter through
    to a completion including the discrediting of the attacker.

    Experience has shown that defence is only effective when one sorties or

    The errors we have made have been:

    1. Defending only.

    2. Defending on Scientology ground.

    3. Being reasonable and assigning mild motives to the enemy.

    4. Failing to attack early and hard.

    5. Undervaluing the broad social value of Scientology.

    6. Individuating from other similar organizations.

    7. Not learning enemy tactics and using and bettering them.

    8. Failing to heavily contest for public opinion and public media.

    9. Failing to identify the enemy early and hit him hard. (LRH)

  39. The technique of proving utterances false is called "DEAD AGENTING".
    It's in the first book of Chinese espionage. When the enemy agent gives
    false data, those who believed him but now find it false kill him - or
    at least cease to believe him.

    So the PR slang for it is "Dead Agenting."

    This consists of disproving utterly the false statement with documents
    or demonstration or display.

    One has to have a kit (a collection of documents) or the ability to
    demonstrate or something to display.

    STATEMENT: "I've been told you are in trouble with Income Tax people."

    REBUTTAL: "Here's a document of fully paid taxes and a letter of
    commendation from the tax authorities." Displays same.

    Result? Whoever told him that is now dead with him as an accurate

    The _best_ way to dead agent is when the person makes some disprovable
    statement, find WHO to fix his mind on it and then produce the rebuttal.

    STATEMENT: "I hear you aren't married to the man you're living with."

    REBUTTAL: "_WHO_ told you that?"

    STATER: "I forget."

    REBUTTER: "Well, you remember and I'll show you some proof."

    STATER: "Well, it was a man..."


    STATER: "Joe Schmo."

    REBUTTER: "Okay. Here's my marriage certificate. Who's the Joe Schmo
    nut anyway?"

    Now it's Joe Schmo who's the mystery. How come he lies? What's in it
    for him?

    When one hasn't got the document but can get it one can say "You tell me
    the name of whoever said that and next time I see you I'll show you
    something _very_ interesting about it."

    And be sure to get the document and see him again.

    Dead agenting has a billion variations. "It won't fly." Fly it.
    "Place is empty." Show him it's full.

    The subject matter of Dead Agenting is PROOF in whatever form.

    You only challenge statements you _can_ prove are false and in any
    conversation let the rest slide.



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