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May 09: Aussie Senator starts investigation into CoS

Discussion in 'Senator Xenophon And Scientology' started by Hubbard-Telescope, May 29, 2009.

  1. May 09: Aussie Senator starts investigation into CoS

    Scientology Fraud

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    Reporter: Bryan Seymour
    Broadcast Date: May 29, 2009
    The church of Scientology is fighting one of the biggest battles in its 50-year history.

    Forget Xenu the alien overlord and Tom Cruise's bizarre outbursts, this time they're in court facing serious fraud charges.

    A woman in France alleges she was manipulated into handing over her life savings.

    Bryan Seymour reports the case has ignited questions here about how Scientology minds its own business.

    Scientology is under siege.

    "Well in Germany Scientology isn't recognised as a religion and in France it's leaders are facing fraud charges," said Nick Xenophon, the Independent Federal Senator from South Australia.

    In Paris a court will decide if Scientology fraudulently manipulated a woman into handing over $36,000.

    "The only purpose of Scientology is to take money from people," said the French prosecutor in the case. He is seeking to have Scientology's leaders found guilty and fined over ten million dollars and to have the group banned from France altogether.

    The French spokeswoman for Scientology was blunt in her assessment of the case: "�it's nothing really, it's bullshit really."

    She added that the judge may have been influenced "by the media and the climate" to allow the trial to proceed, which is a serious and unfounded allegation.

    Originally four people were accusing Scientology of fraud but two of them came to a financial settlement with the organisation.

    The woman at the centre of the trial says she was walking past Scientology headquarters in Paris in 1998. She was approached in the street and offered a free personality test.

    "She was humiliated and defrauded for a long time, she bought cases full of expensive books and cassettes all cloaked in this goal of self-improvement to become this incredible person," said the French Prosecutor trying the case

    Not surprisingly, the test revealed she had shortfalls. She says she was told Scientology had the cure and was then scammed into buying books, courses, vitamins and even an electrometer, which is supposedly able to measure mental energy.

    Scientology says the case is one of religious discrimination rather than the alleged fraud leading to members handing over their life savings.

    "There's no witch-hunt, France respects freedom but even with religious freedom France can't ignore people breaking the law, if you have religious freedom if you can't do things that are above the law," said a French Government official.

    After a nine year inquiry into the group, a French judge declared Scientology "...is first and foremost a commercial business."

    Prosecutors allege the director of Scientology in France, Alain Rosenberg, and six other top officials preyed on vulnerable would-be followers "...with the goal of seizing their fortune by exerting a psychological hold."

    Today Tonight were contacted by a woman who claimed she had been recruited into Scientology as a child and manipulated into handing over a vast sum of money. When Today Tonight approached Scientology to respond to her claims, they said the woman had signed a confidentiality contract with them and they sent their lawyers scurrying to court seeking an injunction on the story.

    But that's not why Today Tonight decided not to show the interview. Her family asked that the the interview not be aired - and Today Tonight agree... her best interests should come first.

    Federal senator Nick Xenophon says it's time to re-examine Scientology's claims as a religion and to change the laws to force the group to start paying tax.

    "We need to have a close look at those laws because I think there's a lot of community concern that an organisation such as Scientology gets the huge benefits of having the tax exempt status as a religion," Senator Xenophon said.

    Historically Scientology brands anyone who questions their organisation a religious bigot.

    "This is not about religious bigotry, this is about accountability and I think it's pretty cowardly of an organisation to start accusing those that just want to question they way they operate, to make sure what they do is transparent, accountable and fair," Senator Xenophon said.

    As always, the church of Scientology declined a request to be interviewed.

    No doubt they'll be closely watching what happens in France.

    "I think there is a role for regulators, for governments to have a very close look at these tactics because if they don't we'll continue to see more and more of these cases emerging where people's lives are being destroyed because they've handed over their life savings, they've handed over their inheritances to Scientology," Senator Xenophon said.

    The cult information and family support network has branded Scientology a cult, not a religion and say ex-members can contact them for help and advice.

    Further informationCult information and Family Support Network
    CIFS: Cult Information and Family Support

    Contact CIFS NSW:
    Info@cifs.org.au
    Ph: 0423-332-766

    Contact CIFS QLD:
    Infoqld@cifs.org.au
    Ph: 0413-082-344

    Hear Scientology Founder L Ron Hubbard talk about Xenu the alien overlord here

    Scientology fraud

    To contact Senator Nick Xenophon:
    Campaigns - Nick Xenophon - Independent Senator for South Australia
  2. basil Member

    re: May 09: Aussie Senator starts investigation into CoS

    The domino effect...

    If they lose their tax benefits in Australia, then the reciprocal Commonwealth agreement fucks them in the UK as well, as they are registered as an Australian corporation to avoid paying taxes over here.

    Unfortunately, it's perfectly legal - at present - even though it's very sucky.
  3. xenubarb Member

    re: May 09: Aussie Senator starts investigation into CoS

    Xenuphon...heh. I guess the article spelled the Senator's name wrong!

    PAGING GALACTIC OVERLORD, PLEASE PICK UP THE WHITE COURTESY XENUPHONE IN THE LOBBY!
  4. sock Member

    re: May 09: Aussie Senator starts investigation into CoS

    Here's a video of the report:
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lbByKVj_20]YouTube - Scientology Fraud--Today Tonight AU reports[/ame]
  5. Sponge Member

    re: May 09: Aussie Senator starts investigation into CoS

    Posted this story eariler in the french tail thread but seems to have got ignored amongst the "zoomg Time Magazine wot r u dooin" and Nono the clown's escapades.

    It's a good article. Certainly deserves it's own thread. Thanks.

    There's also a video of the TV news report.
    Link to the post...
    http://forums.whyweprotest.net/15-media/french-trial-media-46255/15/#post880444
  6. timthephoto Member

    re: May 09: Aussie Senator starts investigation into CoS

    that guy's name - unbelievable but true it would seem. WOW
  7. Anonymous Member

    re: May 09: Aussie Senator starts investigation into CoS

    that's very good. Xenophon FTW.
  8. Sponge Member

    re: May 09: Aussie Senator starts investigation into CoS

    All scilons OTIII and above have now just shit their pants.
    Xenophon, son of Xenu has spoken, and he's pissed off.
  9. Anonymous Member

    re: May 09: Aussie Senator starts investigation into CoS

    Also, send Brian Seymour and Today Tonight some love as they have been airing regular exposes on the CoS for over a year now (including the report on child labor at the Melbourne org). Recently, Scientology actually tried to get an injunction against TT to stop them airing an interview with an ex-sci, the injunction subsequently failed and Scientology was ordered to pay court costs but the interview has not gone to air anyway, due to a request from the ex's family.
  10. none given Member

    re: May 09: Aussie Senator starts investigation into CoS

    Dem French is so classy.
  11. Anonymous Member

    re: May 09: Aussie Senator starts investigation into CoS

    No, it can't be! Why We Protest | Activism Forum - View Profile: SenatorXenu

    Oh, wait, Xenophon.
  12. AnotherMrPink Member

    re: May 09: Aussie Senator starts investigation into CoS

    All the pieces are coming together so well. This is a very bad year for Scientology....
  13. Ann O'Nymous Member

    re: May 09: Aussie Senator starts investigation into CoS

    Some overgeneralization here ?
  14. Hombre Moderator Skandinaviska

    re: May 09: Aussie Senator starts investigation into CoS

    So how about we send the good senator every piece of dox we have?
  15. none given Member

    re: May 09: Aussie Senator starts investigation into CoS


    This.

    BTW it's a Greek name, it means "Strange voice"
  16. basil Member

  17. re: May 09: Aussie Senator starts investigation into CoS

    Win!

    Welcome to the Endtimes, Davey.
  18. re: May 09: Aussie Senator starts investigation into CoS

    But is he actually doing anything or just giving some words to the media for his public profile?
  19. Vir Member

    re: May 09: Aussie Senator starts investigation into CoS

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  20. rawrz Member

    re: May 09: Aussie Senator starts investigation into CoS

    I first thought this was a troll. Xenophon? Come on, PLEASE, no one with a name like that would....[looks up wikipedia]....well hot damn, nevermind then.
  21. Vir Member

    re: May 09: Aussie Senator starts investigation into CoS

    Greek names. More likely than you think.
    [IMG]
  22. qwertyuiop1 Member

    re: May 09: Aussie Senator starts investigation into CoS

    Xenuphon - its a cool name. greek historian. documented Socrates sayings.
  23. JohnnyRUClear Member

    re: May 09: Aussie Senator starts investigation into CoS

    All their base are belong to him? :eek:
  24. webkilla Member

    re: May 09: Aussie Senator starts investigation into CoS


    oh gods - this would be so aweseom!
  25. Anon1720 Member

    re: May 09: Aussie Senator starts investigation into CoS

    Excellent article. So, will Aussie Anons put an info package together for Senator Xenu?
  26. TinyDancer Member

    re: May 09: Aussie Senator starts investigation into CoS

    Kudos to the lady for coming forward. Her story has obviously given Bryan Seymour something to take to Nick Xenophon. Great response from Nick X. And all the internets to Bryan Seymour, who AGAIN has kicked some serious scientology butt.

    Also, thanks to the CoS for trying to get an injunction. That means several more lawyers and a judge have now seen the CoS's bizarre confidentiality agreement and have been innoculated against your evil ways.

    Nice work, David Miscavige.
  27. none given Member

    re: May 09: Aussie Senator starts investigation into CoS

    Posting to show off my sig.
  28. LilDebbie Member

    re: May 09: Aussie Senator starts investigation into CoS

    Do you hear that, Mr. Miscavige? That is the sound of inevitability.
  29. Herro Member

    re: May 09: Aussie Senator starts investigation into CoS

    I too am wondering this. Hopefully it's the former.
  30. MongoLloyd Member

    re: May 09: Aussie Senator starts investigation into CoS

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  31. none given Member

    re: May 09: Aussie Senator starts investigation into CoS

    1) after all the crap you have put up with about that around here I can't believe you are at all sensitive about it.

    2) the scientology spokeswoman with the pottymouth sounds more like an american anyway.
  32. Anon23517 Member

    re: May 09: Aussie Senator starts investigation into CoS

    Xenophon actually doing something?! It truly is the end times.

    Will pass this on to my local cell. As he's an Adelaide lad, I'm sure we can do something with this info. Thanks, HT.
  33. Silent Member

    re: May 09: Aussie Senator starts investigation into CoS

    He just kept talking in one long incredibly unbroken sentence moving from topic to topic so that no one had a chance to interrupt him.

    let's hope this ends up with more than just sweet talk!

    But really quite hypnotic.
  34. anonsoldier Member

    re: May 09: Aussie Senator starts investigation into CoS

    Oh my God. I need new pants. This is so much epic win. Go go Australia! Makes me sad the US is still so far behind.
  35. El Diablo Member

    re: May 09: Aussie Senator starts investigation into CoS

    I love Xenophon. He's one of the senate's best assets. Previously, CoS criticism has come mostly from the Greens - well Bob Brown. Having an independent like Xenophon (as compared to poor hopeless Fielding), means it should be framed in quite central terms, which should make the message amenable to the concerns of mainstream Aus. This is a very good thing.
  36. re: May 09: Aussie Senator starts investigation into CoS

    "YOUR [strike]DRILL[/strike] SONG WILL PIERCE THROUGHT THE HEAVENS!" (?)


    Anyway, "VOTE XENOPHON! FOR A BETTER, CULT FREE, AUSTRALIA!"
  37. re: May 09: Aussie Senator starts investigation into CoS

    Aussie exes did. That's how this happened.
  38. re: May 09: Aussie Senator starts investigation into CoS

    Australians,

    As a Yankee, I am envious of the grandiose genitalia of THE XENOPHON. His words are legend, and his name is XENOPHON.

    Seriously, be proud. This is an important day.

    ...XENOPHON!

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