Discussion in 'Freedom of Expression' started by godloveus, Jul 8, 2011.
jeebus this looks bad
Ambiga (Bersih organizer) arrested, top leaders arrested; Anwar (opposition leader) injured
2.40pm: Puduraya - The crowd here is breaking up into smaller groups. They are believe to be taking separate routes towards Stadium Merdeka.
2.41pm: PDRM Facebook: As of 2pm, 644 arrested - 597 males and 47 females.
2.43pm: KL Sentral - Pandemonium breaks out at KL Sentral as police fire tear gas in a closed environment as Bersih 2.0 and opposition leaders attempted to exit the station via Brickfields.
The tear gas forced protesters back into the station, which has been locked down. Journalists outside KL Sentral were barred from entering the station, making it difficult to verify the status of the situation.
It was however confirmed that a group of Pakatan leaders and individuals were arrested in the chaos, including Batu MP Tian Chua, Pantai Dalam MP Nurul Izzah Anwar, Kuala Selangor MP Dzukefly Ahmad, artist Wong Hoy Cheong, PAS president Abdul Hadi Awang's son and three other supporters.
2.45pm: KL Sentral - Anwar Ibrahim tweets that he has suffered a minor injury and that his two daugthers - Nurul Izzah and Nurul Hana - has been arrested during the melee.
Bersih 2.0 chief Ambiga Sreenevasan confirms that she has been arrested.
2.50pm: KL Sentral - PKR vice-president N Surendran told Malaysiakini Anwar is bleeding from the head and injured in one of his knees.
2.55pm: Bukit Bintang - There's a standstill between the Umno Youth's Patriot rally and the FRU with neither side budging.
About three arrests were made when Umno Youth tried to break through the FRU line, breaking out into a scuffle before a tear gas canister was fired.
2.57pm: Bukit Bintang - Umno Youth chief Khairy Jamaluddin has been arrested when he was found to be resting and clearing his eyes from the tear gas fired, at a shack just 100m from the FRU [Federal Reserve Unit - special police] line.
Water cannons and tear gas have also been fired at the remaining Umno Youth supporters, pushing them back 50m from where they originally were.
The group has thinned out to about 200 people.
[More to follow]
The UMNO Youth "Patriot" counter-protesters are only 200 people. What a joke.
WWP was down for a while, bad gateway. Also, I had to leave internet for a bit for some IRL stuff.
New York Times weighs in with a good summary
"Demonstrators fled tear gas fired by police Saturday in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia"
3.10pm: PDRM Facebook - The total number of people arrested as of 2.30pm has reached 672.
3.15pm: Pudu - Police have agreed to give safe passage to the thousands of protesters assembled at Pudu up till Jalan Sultan on condition that they only use half of the road and march peacefully.
The accord was met after Pakatan parliamentarians R Sivarasa and Ngeh Khoo Ham negotiated with the police, who also decided to allow the crowd to chant as they march.
3.20pm: Pudu - The crowd has begun to march from Pudu towards Jalan Sultan, thanking the police for allowing them safe passage. The 2,000-strong crowd also began singing Negaraku as they march.
3.22pm: Bukit Bintang - The 300 Umno Youth supporters at Jalan Bukit Bintang in front of Federal Hotel begin to disperse after negotiation with the police.
Claiming moral victory despite only being able to proceed 200m along Jalan Bukit Bintang - still far from their Stadium Merdeka destination - Umno Youth exco Megat Omardin said that their message have been conveyed.
"We have come and we fulfilled our purpose," he told the crowd before another individual led a prayer.
Later, Umno Youth Petaling Jaya Utara chief Arman Azha told Malaysiakini that exco Lokman Noor Adam as well as 20 of their members have been arrested.
Movement head Khairy Jamaluddin, who was also arrested, later tweeted that he has been taken to Pulapol while exco Ahmad Zaki Zahid is injured.
"Have been taken to Pulapol. FRU tear gas straight at us. Exco @zakizahid hurt," he wrote.
3.37pm: Pasar Seni- The triumphant group from Stadium Merdeka marched down Jalan Sultan towards Central Market, but they were attacked by tear gas by police near the Pasar Seni LRT Station.
This has forced then to retreat down Jalan Sultan.
3.38pm: Pudu - The 2,000-strong crowd at Pudu have now been denied safe passage to Jalan Sultan, and riot police have fired both water cannons and tear gas on the protesters assembled in front of the Tung Shin hospital. The crowd is now sandwiched between two FRU blockades.
The police started spraying the crowd after negotiations broke down between police and Pakatan MPs R Sivarasa and Ngeh Khoo Ham, following confusion over what the crowd is required to do.
It was learnt that the crowd were told to only use one side of the road and march peacefully, while it was understood that the police had wanted them to disperse into smaller groups before they would be allowed to march.
It is believed that Sivarasa has been detained, though it is unknown where he is being taken to.
3.50pm: Istana Negara - A small group of Bersih 2.0 steering committee members are marching towards the palace from Midah Hotel. They are awaiting clearance from the palace to submit Bersih 2.0's petition.
[More to follow]
My notes -
300 UMNO (pro-government) supporters. That's pathetic.
No signs yet of Perkasa supporters, who are the radical, crazy, pro-government supporters.
No significant escalations or significant violence so far. No shooting, which is great. Tear gas and water cannons are normal for protests here, and are to be expected.
Anything to stay in power, eh?
The air is thick with tear gas in some of these photos
4.21pm: After almost four hours of cat-and-mouse confrontation with the police in downtown Kuala Lumpur, most of the protesters have dispersed.
The Bersih committee is to call press conference at 4.45pm at Midah Hotel.
4.40pm: Pudu - Suhakam commissioner Muhammad Sha'ani B Abdullah condemns the authorities for their harsh handling of the protesters.
The police force has not only disrespect the people's rights of assembly but also compromise the safety and health of the public by firing tear gas into the Tung Shin hospital compound.
When asked how can the people respond to such violations, he said Malaysians should choose representatives who can protect their rights.
4.50pm: Fadiah Nadwa Fikri of Lawyers for Liberty says that the police have invoked section 28A(8) of the Criminal Procedure Code - denial of access to lawyers - at Pulapol (Police Training Centre), where she says 1,000 people are being detained.
According to her, this is a violation of Article 5 of constitution.
See link above for more updates. Firing tear gas into a hospital complex was just plain stupid.
Sigh of relief, no major violence, no shooting, no deaths that I am aware of. This could have turned out far worse than it did. The counter-protests were basically a joke, a publicity stunt.
Roughly *10,000 20,000 peaceful protesters, asking for the right for free and fair elections.Versus roughly *300 500 pro-government supporters.Those numbers say quite a bit.
(* Numbers edited the following day. 20,000 & 500 are more accurate)
Lots of people arrested, and not allowed access to lawyers.
People are going back home.
My internet connection is back to normal. It was really slow for a few hours, but it was never shut down.
The ruling government pretty much comes out of this looking like repressive hoodlums.
The Prime Minister runs out of the country the day before the rally; what a coward. (* See update below)
It is a constitutional right for citizens to assemble peacefully. If the government had simply allowed the peaceful rally to happen, rather than declaring it illegal, this whole thing could have been avoided.
Malaysia is supposed to be a democracy, not a dictatorship or police state.
It remains to be seen what will become of the 1,000 or so protesters who were arrested and detained without access to lawyers. Will there be more mass arrests tomorrow of Opposition political leaders?
Global Bersih Facebook page
I'm signing off for a while, not expecting anything major to happen at this point.
* Update, the Prime Minister never left the country.
Bersih says 50,000 protested, declares rally ‘great success’
It is still illegal to wear the color yellow.
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Over 1,400 arrested, tear gas fired in Malaysia protest
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oh shit! im glad its finally happening and i hope for the needed change! but i also know the governemental forces so i just can say it wont be easy
Hundreds of photos from Global Bersih 2.0 rallies, posted on Picasa.
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^ their way of remaining "anonymous". The cutout face is that of Ambiga, the organiser of Bersih 2.0 in Malaysia.
The Malaysian government tried to threaten Malaysian students who are studying in Australia not to protest, implying it was illegal, and that they might be arrested by Australian police.
I have a new set of heroes. Great to see the support in Australia, and elsewhere, too
Umno Youth's Patriot rally fizzles out in the rain
Umno Youth are government supporters, who had promised earlier "wage war" against the illegal Bersih protesters.
The Taiwan and Melbourne photos are exactly the same.
Thanks for pointing that out, fixed now.
Prime Minister Najib Razak praised the police for "dispersing" the assembly today.
Prime Minister Najib hasn't learned anything.
Compare the peaceful Bersih 2.0 rallys around the world with main one in Malaysia.
Go ahead, compare the photos posted earlier.
No tear gas or water cannons in Australia or other countries.
Now the Prime Minister praises the police?
The arrest count is now at 1,667.
Operation Erase Bersih
It's on Drudge Report
One death reported at rally
the prime minister is an asshole
k, guise, it's now the next morning. Here's a nice independent overview of the main events yesterday.
Fortress KL: How did Bersih 2.0 slip past?
For even-handedness on my part, here is a news report from Bernama, the official Malaysian government news source.
Illegal Rally Was To Serve Opposition's Agenda
Go ahead, read both reports, compare the reports with the photos posted earlier, and make up your own mind.
I listened to the news on the radio this morning (government controlled media).
The government news announcement was that police were forced to fire tear gas and water cannons at unruly, illegal protesters who refused to disperse from an illegal rally, despite repeated police orders.
Government seems to be doing an ostrich, head in the sand.
More international Bersih 2.0 rally photos
Notice the distinct lack of tear gas and water cannons in these photos.
Less poignant but still obvious - the yellow shirts were prominent internationally but not in Kaula Lampur
Yellow t-shirts are still illegal in Malaysia. Anything that says Bersih is still illegal to have in Malaysia.
Yellow is the color of the royal family in Malaysia. The Monarchy and the Agong (King) are supposed to be above politics. The color yellow was chosen for Bersih, since it is the color of Malaysia's royalty.
The original idea of Bersih 2.0 was have a peaceful march, and have a Bersih 2.0 representative hand over a memorandum to the King, listing the 8 points of election refom the group has been asking for.
From the very beginning, the Electoral Commission and the ruling government refused to deal with Bersih, saying that elections are already completely, free, fair and transparent.
Print media attacks Bersih, praises cops
Post Game report from one of the protesters. Includes lots of photos.
The day I was tear-gassed by my government
Scenes from peaceful Bersih protests around the world
Good analysis by The Guardian newspaper in the UK
Malaysia's leader warned: reform elections or risk revolution
Wall Street Journal
Protest Bolsters Malaysia Opposition
More global protest photos, here's samples
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From page 2 of this morning's hard copy of The Star newspaper, owned by the Malaysian government.
I haven't seen this article online, so no link for you to click.
I tend to think this article is not intended to be online, meant for hard copy only.
Beginning text from Monday 11 July 2011 The Star
So, were police considering not giving food to arrested citizens?
Photo of the hard copy
bumping to stay informed.
I can't embed this, it's not on YouTube. 30 second clip. A crowd of uniformed and plainclothes police kicking a protester lying on the ground.
Jalan means "road" or "street", and Pudu is the name of the street.
So, "The battle for Jalan Pudu" takes place on "Pudu Street".
Notice the protesters were just sitting on the road peacefully and non-threatening,
when the police started tear gassing them.
Some people threw the tear gas canisters back at the police.
A well-written, fairly objective critique from one of the protesters, a University professor.
He takes pains to try to look at this more from a bird's eye overview, rather than just 1st person narrative.
I noticed the writer had similar fears as mine prior to the protest, that the authorities might start shooting unarmed, peaceful protesters. Thank goodness that didn't happen.
Malaysiakini is an independent, online news source.
They were successfully DDOSed during the Sarawak state election a couple months ago.
Read about about the earlier DDOS here.
They were attacked again during the Bersih 2.0 rally, but didn't go down this time.
DOS attacks against Malaysiakini stop
Al least half of the photos posted in this thread are from Malaysiakini. Also, Malaysiakini site is linked in the first post of this thread.
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