re: June 20 - London England - Protest Usual procedure seems to be... 1) Hide inside 2) Phone police with fraudulent claims. 3) Get a bollocking from the plod, again, for calling them falsely. 4) Come out, grab table, take it inside. 5) Send someone out to take pictures and try and intimidate you. 6) You leave, being sure you aren't being followed. 7) They cower inside for a few more hours just in case you come back. Just remember not to stand on their side of the road outside of the Org, as one of the conditions put on us by the police is that they stay on their side of the road, and we stay on the LomBok side. Whilst they could, theoretically, get you grief for being on their side of the road (although not if you're walking past masked up I think), it also means that if they come to the LomBok side to intimidate you, you do actually have grounds to call the police - but it's usually not worth it. Remember that they have several security cameras on their side of the road so if they claim that you came into the Org and broke/destroyed/messed up anything, they should be able to provide video evidence to the police, which of course they won't have because we don't do silly things like that. One anon for 5 minutes can cause the stress test table to hide for several hours at a time. Always make a note of who is around the org before you start - age, gender, description etc - and make sure they're all accounted for before you leave as it gives less opportunity for someone to follow you.
re: June 20 - London England - Protest ok next week tuesday maybe but if u want to name the time and place i will be there
re: June 20 - London England - Protest oh so is that why they never come over and question us? I would actually like to have an argument[conversation] with one of them.
re: June 20 - London England - Protest thanks thats the info i wanted i am new and was worried about making a mistake i will take your advice on board
re: June 20 - London England - Protest There WILL be a mini raid 1st weekend of June just waiting on Some-one to get back to me about something before i post informations
re: June 20 - London England - Protest got some flyers printed this week handed them out shouted a bit just very lucky we were on the right side of the road and not right outside the shop
re: June 20 - London England - Protest I'm up for a spot of miniraiding next week. Once I work out my agenda, I'll be more specific as to which days are good for me. Also @ new guy: You're doing it right so far, but do lurk a lot. Read maybe 10 threads for every one you post in, don't be scared to ask for advice, and don't rush into shit. Remember that however wacky Scientology is, it's a big powerful organisation, and if you go off half cocked and give them an excuse to fuck with you, they will. It's just common sense; know what you want to achieve, what you want to say, and know your rights before you make a move. Hope this helps.
re: June 20 - London England - Protest Generally the only way you're going to be able to actually talk directly to them is unmasked - which, given the cameras at the org, is not a great idea. It's better to do this sort of thing at a stress test table somewhere else. Just don't be too confrontational, so they start taking pictures etc of you. Personally I find it helpful to go through the whole routine and pretend to be interested in buying the book but sorry you don't have any cash on you so you'll see if you can find it on amazon or something, then make your excuses and leave.
re: June 20 - London England - Protest interesting we did go with the view of not being abusive but trying to get the message across
re: June 20 - London England - Protest interesting we certainly would not be abusive to people but i have a lot to learn thanks for the info got to go new guy
re: June 20 - London England - Protest ah i see, yeah i was planning on doing the whole "yeah im interested" MAYBE take a test..im gonna go with a friend though. YOU HEAR THAT OSA
re: June 20 - London England - Protest Personally, I favour playing dumb but asking awkward questions: "Scientology? No, I don't know much about that...oh wait, wasn't there something on South Park to do with dead aliens or something?" Or tell 'em you've been suffering from depression and your psychiatrist suggested you get involved with some kind of social activity
re: June 20 - London England - Protest Want $cilons to talk to you? Tell them you're just bumming around Europe for a year or two, until you decide what to do with your inheritance... One of the old threads contains $cilon mobile phone numbers, if you need to give 'personal' details...
re: June 20 - London England - Protest haha, i think it will be more like "so what are you all about?" and seem like i generaly care. What would happen if i asked Stephania if she spent the last few hours in her office to really goof the floof?
re: June 20 - London England - Protest yeah that's all on the cult watch Scientology London site. Tbh i think i would just make a number, as id rather use that info we have on those people to help them rather than make matters worse.
re: June 20 - London England - Protest I vote outside there hq but Give it a few moar hours people got to get there leave it to 1pm
re: June 20 - London England - Protest That's how it was up until last month, but QVS is quiet and boring on Saturday mornings. It's been mentioned more than once that it's more effective raiding there on weekdays or when there's a Scilon event on. I guess it's flexible, if QVS starts being worthwhile we'll probably stay there until 1 again.
re: June 20 - London England - Protest People do have to get there yes, but it starting at 11 doesn't prohibit this does it? There isn't a grand opening ceremony which everyone has to be there for, it's literally just: 'Oh, hello, are you here to protest?' 'Why yes, yes I am.' 'Splendid effort, good chap. Shall we make our best effort to fuck. shit .up?' 'Word yo, thoroughly good idea!' et cetera... Also, QVS is always kinda dead anyway. I make my best effort to go, but you don't really miss any cult-bashing, and there's nowhere near enough foot traffic to drum up a lot of public interest or support. Top QVS moments are, Feb 10th; riot horses and epic panorama pic captioned 'Oh fuck; the internet is here' and also March raid; roof camera Scilon being 'turbulated by emphatic demands of 'Do a barrel roll!' Far outweighed by TCR lulz, I think we shall all agree... But yeah, turn up when you want, where you want... it's a free country, apparently. -shrug-
re: June 20 - London England - Protest hi there i am up for another raid but do not know how to follow a thread for planning will figure it out but thanks everyone for all the advice if someone plans a raid i will follow
re: June 20 - London England - Protest Myself and the IHM (legendary backpack-mounted trollcannon, for those who don't know) are confirmed for brawl. I refused to pay to go to the event, but this INFORM faggotry cannot go unanswered. http://forums.whyweprotest.net/121-flash-raids/london-23-may-cult-conference-46082/ See you there. Waterloo station, under the clock, 11:30am. Raid the outside of the event, then go trolling elsewhere
re: June 20 - London England - Protest If we're doing Sea Argh 2 next month, I suggest an anthem SPLIT YOUR LUNGS WITH BLOOD AND THUNDER WHEN YOU SEE THE WHITE WHALE
re: June 20 - London England - Protest Tsk remember guys, this is NOT a rock concert. ...but /r/ more Alestorm.
re: June 20 - London England - Protest Or this. [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpAmOaK48-c]YouTube - You Don't Know Jack[/ame]
re: June 20 - London England - Protest Agree'd. Long and tragic be the tale of The Curse o' Cap'n Morgan!
re: June 20 - London England - Protest ..I believe that was a reference to one of the plod's comments at TCR a couple of months ago. Were our local law enforcement officer better informed about ridiculous music subgenres, they would probably have told us it was not a post-hardcore-metalcore concert either.
re: June 20 - London England - Protest thanks mods for putting the raid info back into the first post mods=gods etc.
re: June 20 - London England - Protest Pretty much, a lot of areas are doing it. Not quite "global" but widespread enough.
re: June 20 - London England - Protest I just thought...Whatever happened to that huge ship banner that was made for the original Sea Arrgh?
re: June 20 - London England - Protest I Be /ARR/ing this [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gdlkx_cIqtE&feature=related]YouTube - Flogging Molly - Rebels of the Sacred Heart[/ame]
re: June 20 - London England - Protest Awesome, piratey clothes sorted, just need a nice big sword now... Also,
re: June 20 - London England - Protest Aye. But someone else better be compiling too... contingency and all that.
