Re: July 11, Big Blue, Los Angeles It was very funny when I encountered Laurie Burpee and I showed her the results of my Facebook investigation of the Burpee family which she filmed as I held up the Facebook pages of her daughters Kelsey & Jenny and went through each page describing the faces in the photos & where the photos were taken. (Last week, Laurie denied that anyone in her family were on Facebook). Ha Ha!! Pwned this bitch! Very poor liar. Laurie's facial expressions while I was narrating this were priceless. Alot of twitching going on. I earlier confronted Tom Burpee about his Facebook page and he swore he didn't have one until I showed it to him and told him what was on it. He turned around and was surprised I printed out his non-existent page. As the protest was coming to a close and I was chatting with Tom Burpee, I observed Patty Baber whispering to Laurie, then Tom's cell phone rang & he said his wife was calling him.. not noticing she was standing behind him about 25 feet away. Laurie then walked over to me demanding to know where I got the Facebook pages on her family claiming I hacked into a private site & could be arrested for it. I laughed. The bitch didn't know anything about Facebook, how it functions, much less that her children have Facebook pages. Minutes after that while Tom and I were talking, his daughter, Jenny, showed up to greet her dad and I told Jenny how much I loved her Facebook page and all her photos. She asked her dad who I was and Tom told her I was one of the "evil Anonymous." Jenny said, "What's that?", shrugged her shoulders, laughed and said she was glad I liked her page and invited me to become a friend on her page. Mod Edit: Removed link to FB page. . Guyz, she is even more gorgeous than her photos show.
Re: July 11, Big Blue, Los Angeles Guy on the right is Philippe Pedersen, Rick Moxon's legal assistant. Nice guy when you're nice to him. Nothing like the loathsome douchebag he works for. Philippe also has a site promoting the cult and is a big Jenna Elfman fan <blech> http://spiritualbeing.wordpress.com/ http://twitter.com/spiritualbeing
Re: July 11, Big Blue, Los Angeles You're correct. He didn't. They sent fire inspectors instead which has absolutely nothing to do with the street closure permits.
Re: July 11, Big Blue, Los Angeles Smurf...this is getting into "creepy" territory. Yes, the info about the kids may be public, but this post gives off a bad vibe. Just because you CAN do something doesn't mean you should. Confirming to Laurie and Tom that they lied is good. Telling the daughter that someone she has never met or harassed, that her facebook page is being scoured is...CREEPY. (Put yourself in ANY parent's position if you said you were looking through their children's online pages)
Re: July 11, Big Blue, Los Angeles Holy Fuck!! Snake said something nice about me. That deserves another shot of vodka. BTW, your addressing the Nazi photo from the Clearwater paper to Jason & Odo was fucking priceless. GREAT JOB!! I have it on video with Jason ordering me to put the camera down because it was "a private conversation."
Re: July 11, Big Blue, Los Angeles Yet Jason kept trying to butt in when I was filming anons talking to the police to discuss the permits and such.
Re: July 11, Big Blue, Los Angeles and it's a huge downer...if the LA media were a bit more outspoken about the abuses of the cult and Little Davey's evil shennanigans, then it would help prevent a lot of future sufferering and hardship. Maybe I'm wrong about this, but I sort of get the impression that pretty much everyone in the media/entertainment business in LA probably knows at least one scientologist - so they don't speak out against the cult so as not to "rock the boat"?
Re: July 11, Big Blue, Los Angeles You misread my OP. I told the daughter I saw her Facebook page and liked it. She later thanked me for my comment. She was not involved in the conversation I had with her father. Even after her dad dumped on me, she thanked me for complimenting her on her Facebook page. I recommend you take the time to read & understand posts before jumping to conclusions.
Re: July 11, Big Blue, Los Angeles I did not witness her thanking a complete stranger who complimented her on her FB page. She may been diplomatic to avoid conflict. Let's just say, if someone known to "have issues"(lol) with my parents says they were looking at my FB page, it would freak me out. I would not be complimented and would wonder why this person was bringing me into the issue. My $.02 Otherwise, you were in top form on Saturday. This one issue hits close to home, let's just say.
Re: July 11, Big Blue, Los Angeles That, and the fact that Scientology has been headquartered in Los Angeles since the 60s and their crappy reputation in the community precedes them. There is also a huge sense of apathy with city government sticking their noses up at the people that complain about them. Scientology has been extremely clever and strategic in getting LA government & community leaders on their side and it is still very obvious today. I find it utterly amazing that the LAPD has so much technology & instruments at their disposal to investigate crimes & prosecute criminals, but most of their officers remain absolutely dumbstruck to the history & crimes committed by Scientologists in Los Angeles, particularly with cops that have been around for awhile. It doesn't help, either, that the FBI & AG's office turns a blind eye.
Re: July 11, Big Blue, Los Angeles That's cool. I'm not questioning your concerns. But, obviously, Jenny Burpee & her generation loves the attention that Facebook, MySpace, Twitter, Friendster, etc. gives them or they wouldn't put them on the Internet. And I'm taking Jenny up on her invitation. Her mom & dad might persuade her to delete me as a friend. We'll see.
Re: July 11, Big Blue, Los Angeles It's more like saying that unless you met LRH and was lectured on the subject of $cientology by him personally, you don't know shit about it...
Re: July 11, Big Blue, Los Angeles It's all part of the Scientology-Hubbard brainwashing. When confronted with any sort of questioning & confronting Hubbard policy or the Scilons understanding of it, the Scilon will generally fail to confront the substance of your information, but focus on discovering the source of this criticism (and any questioning of the tech or Hubbard policy, period, is a crime in the eyes of Scientology). Questioning or criticism is seen as proof of a sick or evil mind at work spreading such evil information and instead of evaluating as to whether it is true or false, valid or not valid, the Scilon will attempt to discredit the information. Scilons will often tell you "that's your reality, not mine" meaning in their minds, if they don't personally see, hear or experience an event, it did not occur to them. It's a convenient, though totally irrational foil for them to deny the facts that often stare them in the face. Scientology's belief is that truth itself must be approached on a gradient. In Hubbard's eyes, there was no such thing as objective truth -- truth is whatever is true for you. This provides the rationale for Scilons deliberately lying & misleading the public, because according to Hubbard, when dealing with "raw public" one must be careful to give them an "acceptable truth" (both are Hubbard's terms.) There is an excellent website that explains why Scilons will never tell you the truth.. lying is second nature to a Scilon. I have great "comm cycles" with Scilon guards at Pac Base, most whom are 2nd generation Scilons, and lying & deception is so natural for them & a part of their psyche, they consistently lie and don't remember doing it when you call them on it. Scientology's Study Technology - Essay -- Dr. David Touretzky and Chris Owen
Re: July 11, Big Blue, Los Angeles Some dox from an ex-Sea Org on "Droopy Eyed Guy" aka "Harry Potter," the Scilon working with Alex, the Ukrainian guard from the HGB last week on Sunset Blvd. and was there on there on Saturday, July 11th as well. "The handler's name is Aki Heinrich, OSA Int "watch" person looking to ID "SPs" in the crowd. Aki Heinrich changed his name legally to Thomas Dean, in honor of actor James Dean. He is married to Caroline Heinrich, who's been Internal PR person at OSA Int for about 20 years herself.
Re: July 11, Big Blue, Los Angeles Smurf...Did this guy work in Clearwater and is that a toupe? also does he have an aussie accent?
Re: July 11, Big Blue, Los Angeles How is it a mistake by the church? The cop said that his orders came from his captain. Also, to be fair, a tussle over the details of a sidewalk closure permit doesn't exactly scream front page news. Anyways, good job socal.
Re: July 11, Big Blue, Los Angeles Wanted to highlight this win again, especially because Smurf faced so much resistance. LEAVE A PAPER TRAIL. Police will respect you more if you make it clear that they must respect your rights. If you let them push you around, they'll push. If you have a problem with a public official, chances are excellent that you are not the only one. So it's rarely about just your experience, even if it appears that way to you. And if even you are, somehow, the only one, a single complaint can often bring results, as well as help establish a pattern when people complain in the future. Although I'm amazed that the complaint had such immediate impact.
Re: July 11, Big Blue, Los Angeles One interesting thing I heard from the officer I spoke to on multiple occasions about the actual content of the permit is that, their superiors will sometimes read it differently from each other and they may have multiple superiors with different viewpoints of the permit for a situation such as this. It's really disappointing to hear that the cops cant even get on the same page when it comes to the content of a permit.
Re: July 11, Big Blue, Los Angeles In the sense that the closure and the last minute change of the permit was caused BY the cult...putting pressure on various agencies. When they do stuff like this, we will react. Much like they USED to be able to close LRH Way every weekend, which is an abuse, and anon and resident pressure ended that practice. Whatever you say about any actions of the police, the cult was the instigating party. ...and I will rape you next time I see you in IRC <3
Re: July 11, Big Blue, Los Angeles Yeah, this^^^ The restrictions usually involve color, and those look like red ones, which are certain to be restricted to authorized units under California's highway code. I wonder what the lockers on the side of that "emergency" vehicle are packed with, copies of The Way to Happiness and an e-meter stress test table?
Re: July 11, Big Blue, Los Angeles This a huge win IMO. See bolded. Smurf does deserve a mention. Smurf have you considered silver nitrate?
Re: July 11, Big Blue, Los Angeles DID YOU SHOW THEM THE BURPEE FAMILY PORTRAIT FROM THE 80'S WITH THE MULLETS? I TOLD TIM ABOUT IT 5 MINUTES BEFORE THE BURPEES EVEN ARRIVED AND HE WAS LOL'ING ABOUT IT WITH ME I WISH I KNEW YOU HAD THE PRINTOUTS SO I COULD HAVE SHOWN TIM! If only I would have known.
Re: July 11, Big Blue, Los Angeles No, that is Ken Long and he has been in OSA Int for probably 15-20 years. He is American and that's not a toupe.
Re: July 11, Big Blue, Los Angeles That's Philippe Pedersen. He has also been in OSA Int for probably 10+ years now, since he was a kid.
Re: July 11, Big Blue, Los Angeles Very observant. Yes, he wears badly woven rug. Must have got it on sale at a discount store. Ken Long has been all over the map with OSA in L.A., Clearwater (very involved in hiding & suppressing evidence in the Lisa McPherson case on behalf of Moxon & Abelson), New York and Germany. He is not as Aussie. Ken & I go way back. cults, scientology: declaration of Gary Scarff,: I've received orders from scientology, to kill people
Re: July 11, Big Blue, Los Angeles I wish I knew where he got it. It sure would work good on my microphone.
Re: July 11, Big Blue, Los Angeles V.C. Section 25269 - Use of Red Warning Light "Use of Red Warning Light 25269. No person shall display a flashing or steady burning red warning light on a vehicle except as permitted by Section 21055 or when an extreme hazard exists. Added Ch. 653, Stats. 1961. Effective September 15, 1961." Section 21055 applies to real police/fire/medical emergency vehicles only. From the picture it looks like they bought a used fire dept vehicle and repainted it. If the lights are red, they should have been removed at the time of purchase. As operating them, even on private property, is illegal. If the lights are amber, and they're claiming it some type of emergency response vehicle, then it would be covered by V.C. Section 25259.1 - Disaster Service Workers: Flashing Amber Warning Lights "Disaster Service Workers: Flashing Amber Warning Lights 25259.1. (a) Any vehicle operated by a disaster service worker who has received training in accordance with subdivision (b) and used by that worker in the performance of emergency or disaster services ordered by lawful authority during a state of war emergency, a state of emergency, or a local emergency, as those terms are defined in Section 8558 of the Government Code, may display flashing amber warning lights to the front, sides, or rear while at the scene of the emergency or disaster. (b) Any disaster service worker operating a vehicle that displays flashing amber warning lights shall receive a training course from the public agency, disaster council, or emergency organization described in Section 3101 of the Government Code concerning the safe operation of the use of flashing amber warning lights prior to operating a vehicle that displays flashing amber warning lights. (c) A person operating a vehicle that is authorized to display flashing amber warning lights under this section shall either completely cover or remove those lights when the lights are not in use. Added Sec. 1, Ch. 144, Stats. 1997. Effective January 1, 1998." Note para (b) requires specific training for the operator of such a vehicle. And para (c) requires the lights to be removed or covered when not in use at an emergency as described in Section 3101 of the Govt Code. So if this is a legit disaster response vehicle (which I doubt) and those are amber lights, the operator and vehicle are in violation by not having them properly covered when not in use. But they look red to me also, which makes them totally illegal to have on the vehicle when it's on the streets. And even if it never leaves the parking lot, it's illegal to turn them on. BigBeard
Re: July 11, Big Blue, Los Angeles I learned yesterday, I wasn't the only one who complained. Evidently, Officer Turner specifically harassed two residents trying to get back to their apartments, and Turner physically stopped one guy from passing because he didn't have his ID on him (the resident told me yesterday he had to go to a friend's house on New Hampshire St. to call his landlord to come down to Fountain, speak to police to let him get home). That's disgusting. Officer Turner is a bad cop... and not just to anons.
Re: July 11, Big Blue, Los Angeles LOL. I've used to take it, but stopped on my doctor's orders. Have you seen this video? I really don't want to look like a Smurf.
Re: July 11, Big Blue, Los Angeles Yes, I did. I asked Tom Burpee if he ever played ice hockey (he's Canadian) and said in his 80's photo, he looked like a hockey player. He admitted he played hockey in college. Tom Burpee is a very nice, cool guy. Mindfucked with Hubbard Tech, but I enjoy talking to him. He may have a neurological issue he's not addressing.. his left eye constantly twitches when you talk to him.
Re: July 11, Big Blue, Los Angeles Is he 2nd generation? It would be great if staff & ex-SO who left the cult in the last 5 years got together and created a list of 2nd generation Scientologists. I know all the young Security staff are because they can be relied upon for blind obedience. Some of them are the easiest to have comm cycles with, but also the hardest to crack when trying to ask them to consider certain facts about the cult.
Re: July 11, Big Blue, Los Angeles One, you don't know if there are even light bulbs in there, so a lightbar might technically be fishy, but as long as they don't have emergency lights on it is fine. Two, they might be amber bulbs even inside red plastic might be amber enough. Three, you guys always fail hard on the most 'poonable aspect of scientology front groups. If anyone would bother looking in to vulture ministers and their admission into VOAD. Or the CA VOAD, there are grounds to get them removed based on Form 990s. In fact, VMs are recognized by DHS and VOAD from you failfags who don't bother reading the thread(s) (search for thread title VOAD). Being as such they are emergency response vehicles. [strike]Four, are you telling me tow trucks can't use amber light bars??[/strike] (covered under another section) [edit -- yeah looks like they have to be covered when not in use, unless they are a "Red Cross" vehicle which has it's own section, but they aren't displaying Red Cross, still not sure if light bars without light bulbs are illegal..]
