Julian Assange What's next?

Discussion in 'Wikileaks' started by Anonymous, Jun 8, 2012.

  1. DeathHamster Member

    Usually you have to charge someone first.
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  3. A.O.T.F Member

    Julian Assange: 'I still enjoy crushing bastards'


    Five years after 'Collateral Murder', the secret US military video which made the Pentagon furious and WikiLeaks famous around the world, l'Espresso meets the WikiLeaks founder in the Ecuadorian embassy in London where he is holed up to ask whether he has changed his mind and goals

    In a small apartment in the heart of London – far from the pomp of the embassies of Europe’s capital cities - a man has spent the last three years essentially confined to a room of roughly 20 square meters, after spending one and a half years under house arrest with an electronic manacle around his ankle. He is guarded seven days a week, twenty-four hours a day by Scotland Yard agents with at least two large police vans stationed outside the building, ready to arrest him the moment he steps foot outside

    It is this Ecuadorian embassy in London that “l'Espresso” has entered once again, five years after Julian Assange first made the greatest power in the world tremble, the United States, in April 2010, publishing “Collateral Murder”, a secret US military video showing an Apache helicopter killing innocent civilians in Baghdad.

    From that April of 2010, nothing has been the same in the life of Assange, his organization, and his source: the young American soldier Chelsea Manning (formerly Bradley), who was immediately arrested, treated inhumanely for nine months and then sentenced to 35 years of prison for revealing the true face of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, the atrocities of Guantanamo and the secrets of US diplomacy.

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    Vitamin D

    Fatty fish
    Beef liver
    Egg yolks
    Fortified milk and orange juice
    Fortified cereals.

    Or plenty of vitamin D2 supplements. Alternatively, these can be received in the way of diplomatic pouch. In so much as the fuckers on the outside cannot mess with them, for fear of causing a diplomatic incident.
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    It's a dead giveaway when one hits upon the truth, because there is ...

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    Hillary Clinton Hires Google Exec As Chief Tech Officer - WikiLeaks Shows Us Why | Sputnik International

    Hillary Clinton has hired Stephanie Hannon, Google’s director of product management for civic innovation and social impact, as chief technology officer for her potential presidential campaign, fueling accusations from Julian Assange that Google is in bed with the US government.

    "Google will be an important factor in the US elections of 2016," Assange said via video conference at a Madrid presentation for his book "When Google met WikiLeaks,” last year.

    Hannon does not appear to have any political campaign experience, but was part of the team who built Google Maps, including developing the transit tool that incorporates planning trips by public transportation.

    She’ll be working out of the New York City campaign office overseeing a team that will be building websites, apps, and other tools that the presidential hopeful will use to fundraise and connect with supporters, as well as “capture information about them,” the Washington Post reported.

    Assange claims that Google has been heavily tied to the United States government going all the way back to 2002, and that many on the team at Google are closely linked to US foreign policy. He also notes that Google is the number one lobbyist in the United States, spending the most money to influence members of Congress.

    "It should be noted that the ties [of Google] with Hillary Clinton are especially strong. Many of those employed by Google have previously worked as her advisers or assistants," Assange said.

    WikiLeaks has also pointed out that Google was active in the controversial mass electronic surveillance data mining program PRISM, which was launched in 2007 by the NSA.

    "On the structural level, Google currently acts like the NSA, like a bait to lure as many users as it can and gather all the information about them – where they are, what they are searching for, what do they do in the networks. It creates "user profiles" and passes the information to US government," Assange stated.

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    WikiLeaks releases secret TISA docs: The more evil sibling of TTIP and TPP | Ars Technica UK

    WikiLeaks has released 17 secret documents from the negotiations of the global Trade in Services Agreement (TISA), which have been taking place behind closed doors, largely unnoticed, since 2013. The main participants are the United States, the European Union, and 23 other countries including Turkey, Mexico, Canada, Australia, Pakistan, Taiwan and Israel, which together comprise two-thirds of global GDP.

    Significantly, all the BRICS countries — Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa — are absent, and are therefore unable to provide their perspective and input for what is essentially a deal designed by Western nations, for the benefit of Western corporations. According to the European Commission's dedicated page: "TiSA aims at opening up markets and improving rules in areas such as licensing, financial services, telecoms, e-commerce, maritime transport, and professionals moving abroad temporarily to provide services."

    TISA's focus on services complements the two other global trade agreements currently being negotiated in secret: the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP), and the corresponding deal for the Pacific region, the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP), which deal with goods and investments. Like both TTIP and TPP, one of the central aims of TISA is to remove "barriers" to trade in services, and to impose a regulatory ratchet on participating nations. In the case of TISA, the ratchet ensures that services are deregulated and opened up to private companies around the world, and that once privatised, they cannot be re-nationalised.

    The 17 documents released today include drafts and annexes on issues such as air traffic, maritime transport, professional services, e-commerce, delivery services, transparency, and domestic regulation, as well as several documents on the positions of negotiating parties. The annexe on e-commerce is likely to be of particular interest to Ars readers, since, if adopted, it would have a major impact on several extremely sensitive areas in the digital realm.

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    Trade in Services Agreement | WikiLeaks
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  9. DeathHamster Member
    Several? Not all?
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    Julian Assange, WikiLeaks founder, denied asylum in France | The Associated Press

    Assange wrote a letter to French President Francois Hollande published in Le Monde on Friday, appealing to France's history as a beacon for the repressed. He noted that WikiLeaks recently revealed that the U.S. National Security Agency spied on Hollande and his two predecessors and leading French companies.

    Hollande quickly said "no." In a statement, his office noted that Assange is under a European arrest warrant and his life is not in imminent danger.

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  11. Disambiguation Global Moderator

    Well the USA locked him up and ended his ability to work, they should be proud :(
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    Statute of limitations

    The statute of limitations in Sweden is five years for unlawful coercion and 10 years for rape, which means that Assange cannot be charged based on these allegations after 2020.[36][75]

    I don't think that he was ever accused of rape, although the Swedish crime was frequently translated that way in English press. So, after August, they could only charge him if they made shit up. I guess in 2020, they'll say that they heard a rumor about some murder some place or something, and he's wanted on suspicion of suspicion.
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    The real reasons why Assange has not been interrogated in London. An analysis of central human rights aspects in the foreign policy of Sweden

    By Prof. Marcello Ferrada de Noli, Prof. Anders Romelsjö, and Dr. Leif Elinder, SWEDHR Research & Reports

    The almost “too late” discussions now on-going between the Ecuadorian authorities and representatives of the Swedish government, are partly rooted in earlier refusals at United Nations forums by the Swedish Foreign Ministry of meeting legal and human-rights related issues in the case Assange. These issues have been put forward to Sweden, and since long, not only by Ecuador – but also by a number of countries such as Argentina, Nicaragua, Cuba, Slovakia and Uruguay; and are in fact based in conventions at United Nations that Sweden is a signatory. On the other hand, and in absence of a real legal case, there is an ostensible manipulation from the part of Sweden through protracting the interrogation of Assange all the way during these five years, all which would eventually permit a prescription of the imputations without the necessity of losing face with a dropping of the case on the base of publicly demonstrated falsely accusations (in Swedish: brotten kan ej styrkas). From the perspective of early analysis by Swedish Doctors for Human Rights, all this is a confirmation of the “Stalling Hypothesis on the case Assange” we enunciated already 2012 [1]. The case has never been a legal endeavour, but a piece in a political design to partly hamper WikiLeaks, and partly give time to complete the U.S. case. The fear of an extradition was/is well grounded.

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  14. Anonymous Member

    Do your homework. He entered the Ecuadorian embassy of his own volition.
  15. Anonymous Member

    It doesn't really matter. Assange is no longer relevant.
  16. A.O.T.F Member

    Your sweeping generalization is nothing more than asinine. Assange is the epitome of relevance.
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  17. A.O.T.F Member

    His “crime” is to have initiated a wave of truth-telling in an era of lies, cynicism and war.

    John Pilger

    Julian Assange: the Untold Story of an Epic Struggle for Justice

    by John Pilger

    The siege of Knightsbridge is both an emblem of gross injustice and a gruelling farce. For three years, a police cordon around the Ecuadorean embassy in London has served no purpose other than to flaunt the power of the state. It has cost £12 million. The quarry is an Australian charged with no crime, a refugee whose only security is the room given him by a brave South American country. His “crime” is to have initiated a wave of truth-telling in an era of lies, cynicism and war.

    The persecution of Julian Assange is about to flare again as it enters a dangerous stage. From August 20, three quarters of the Swedish prosecutor’s case against Assange regarding sexual misconduct in 2010 will disappear as the statute of limitations expires. At the same time Washington’s obsession with Assange and WikiLeaks has intensified. Indeed, it is vindictive American power that offers the greatest threat – as Chelsea Manning and those still held in Guantanamo can attest.

    The Americans are pursuing Assange because WikiLeaks exposed their epic crimes in Afghanistan and Iraq: the wholesale killing of tens of thousands of civilians, which they covered up, and their contempt for sovereignty and international law, as demonstrated vividly in their leaked diplomatic cables. WikiLeaks continues to expose criminal activity by the US, having just published top secret US intercepts – US spies’ reports detailing private phone calls of the presidents of France and Germany, and other senior officials, relating to internal European political and economic affairs.

    None of this is illegal under the US Constiution. As a presidential candidate in 2008, Barack Obama, a professor of constitutional law, lauded whistleblowers as “part of a healthy democracy [and they] must be protected from reprisal”. In 2012, the campaign to re-elect President Barack Obama boasted on its website that he had prosecuted more whistleblowers in his first term than all other US presidents combined. Before Chelsea Manning had even received a trial, Obama had pronounced the whisletblower guilty.

    He was subsequently sentenced to 35 years in prison, having been tortured during his long pre-trial detention.
    Few doubt that should the US get their hands on Assange, a similar fate awaits him. Threats of the capture and assassination of Assange became the currency of the political extremes in the US following Vice-President Joe Biden’s preposterous slur that the WikiLeaks founder was a “cyber-terrorist”.

    Those doubting the degree of ruthlessness Assange can expect should remember the forcing down of the Bolivian president’s plane in 2013 – wrongly believed to be carrying Edward Snowden.

    According to documents released by Snowden, Assange is on a “Manhunt target list”. Washington’s bid to get him, say Australian diplomatic cables, is “unprecedented in scale and nature”. In Alexandria, Virginia, a secret grand jury has spent five years attempting to contrive a crime for which Assange can be prosecuted. This is not easy. The First Amendment to the US Constitution protects publishers, journalists and whistleblowers.

    Faced with this constitutional hurdle, the US Justice Department has contrived charges of “espionage”, “conspiracy to commit espionage”, “conversion” (theft of government property), “computer fraud and abuse” (computer hacking) and general “conspiracy”. The Espionage Act has life in prison and death penalty provisions. .

    Assange’s ability to defend himself in this Kafkaesque world has been handicapped by the US declaring his case a state secret. In March, a federal court in Washington blocked the release of all information about the “national security” investigation against WikiLeaks, because it was “active and ongoing” and would harm the “pending prosecution” of Assange. The judge, Barbara J. Rosthstein, said it was necessary to show “appropriate deference to the executive in matters of national security”. Such is the “justice” of a kangaroo court.

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    Sweden's Standoff With Ecuador Over Assange Interview 'Bizarre' - WikiLeaks | Sputnik International

    Sweden’s standoff with Ecuador over the interrogation of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange is "bizarre" in light of revelations that London permitted Stockholm to question others on its soil, the website’s spokesman told Sputnik on Monday.

    A Freedom of Information (FOI) request revealed that the United Kingdom granted Swedish authorities permission to carry out at least 44 interviews of witnesses or suspects on its territory since 2010.

    WikiLeaks spokesman Kristinn Hrafnsson reiterated Assange’s longstanding willingness to be questioned inside the Ecuador embassy in London, where he has avoided extradition since 2012.

    He claims that the Swedish authorities refused to consider such an option until recently. Swedish prosecutors relented in March, asking Assange’s legal representatives if he would consent to being interviewed in the embassy.

    "Now we learn that at the same time Swedish authorities interviewed 44 witnesses and suspects in London in other cases. So it is quite bizarre," Hrafnsson stressed.

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  19. fishypants Moderator

    I confess I haven't been paying attention lately, but Assange is still in the embassy?

    He must be the best (or maybe the worst) player of hide-and-seek ever.
  20. Anonymous Member

    I call bullshit. "whistleblowing" is the exposure of illegal acts. None of the stuff that Manning and Snowden leaked was illegal.
  21. Disambiguation Global Moderator

    ? Much was illegal.
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  22. A.O.T.F Member

    If one hasn't already seen this doco, check it out. The US Government's response is pathetic and laughable.
    Brilliant commentary from Julian Assange and Sarah Harrison.

    Edward Snowden - Terminal F (2015)

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    Julian Assange: three cases dropped but inquiry into rape allegation continues | The Guardian

    Assange says he is disappointed not to give his side of the story after investigations are dropped as prosecutors run out of time to bring charges.

    Julian Assange condemns Swedish handling of sexual assault claims | The Guardian

    WikiLeaks founder says he is disappointed he hasn’t had chance to prove innocence after five-year time limit for bringing some charges expires.

    Julian Assange's attorney speaks out as sexual assault case dropped | The Guardian

    A human rights attorney representing Julian Assange reacts to Thursday’s news that various sexual assault charges against the WikiLeaks founder have been dropped, following the expiration of a five-year time limit. Carey Shenkman says it is ‘unacceptable’ that Assange has been detained for so long without a charge, and questions the motives of Swedish prosecutors.

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    Call Out: 16 August – Support Julian Assange and Ecuador on 3rd Anniversary of Granting of Asylum

    Sunday 16 August marks three years since Ecuador’s decision to grant the protection of asylum to WikiLeaks Editor in Chief, Julian Assange. Join supporters in a show of solidarity with Julian and Ecuador outside the Ecuadorean embassy in London


    Outside the Embassy of Ecuador, London. Flat 3b, 3 Hans Crescent, London, SW1X 0LS. Nearest Tube station Knightbridge.


    Sunday 16 August 4pm – 6pm

    Ecuador’s Granting of Asylum

    In August 2012, after weeks of consideration of evidence, Ecuador recognised that Julian Assange’s work with WikiLeaks made him a target of politically motivated harassment and that extradition to the United States on espionage and treason charges was a real and present threat.

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    #HillaryEmails: McClatchy reporter "ratted out" WikiLeaks to State Dept four months prior to Cablegate.
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  27. Anonymous Member

    The courts say the NSA data collection was legal.
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    Email to Hillary Clinton Shows Effort to Quash Story About WikiLeaks and Turkey | VICE News

    An email sent to Hillary Clinton during her tenure as secretary of state shows that government officials tried to pressure the Washington Post into suppressing details about a WikiLeaks cable that revealed information about the US cooperating with Turkey to share intelligence about Kurdish militants.

    The message, released by the State Department on Wednesday in response to a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit filed by VICE News, was forwarded to Clinton on September 9, 2011. Cheryl Mills, Clinton's chief of staff at the State Department, passed along an email that had originally been sent to 14 State Department officials, including Mills.

    "Despite our efforts, WaPo will proceed with its story on US-Turkey intel cooperation against PKK," the message said, referring to the Kurdistan Workers' Party. "They will not make redactions we requested so expect the Wikileaks cables to be published in full."

    The message said other Clinton advisers had been briefed on the situation, and that the State Department was "working with EUR and NEA press, we're deploying guidance below, including our standing Wikileaks guidance." It ended by thanking others in the State Department for their work, and the line, "wish I had better news to share."

    Turkey has recently started bombing PKK targets in Syria, triggering the worst violence the NATO member country has seen in two decades. The group, which says it is fighting for greater Kurdish autonomy, is designated a terrorist organization by Turkey, the European Union, and the United States, but has been one of the most effective forces fighting against the so-called Islamic State.

    Including the cache of messages released on Wednesday, more than 19,500 pages of emails sent by Clinton during her time at the State Department have now been made public. The correspondence suggests a relentless focus by Clinton's team on WikiLeaks, and concern about the potential fallout from the disclosures.

    "The administration's response seems quite weak to me," Clinton aide Mark Penn wrote to Clinton in an email dated November 28, 2010. He recommended offering "a bounty for the capture of those responsible," and "aggressively dealing with the problem directly."

    The next day, Clinton advisor Sidney Blumenthal sent an email laying out a strategy for how the WikiLeaks documents "can be cast as reflecting a positive light on the US government and diplomacy."

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    RESIGNATIONS REVEALED: Is the Union in meltdown?

    By James Wells and Adam Crafton, The Tab Cambridge


    The Cambridge Union has been plunged into crisis after four senior officials quit their roles before week 2 of Michaelmas term.

    The resignations are believed to be related to the controversial Julian Assange referendum, while a picture has also emerged of a pernicious atmosphere consuming the organisation.

    After a tumultuous week at the Union, The Tab can exclusively reveal:
    • Three senior figures, two of whom have been voting members of the Union’s governing body, have resigned from their positions within the space of a few days.
    • Union officials held ‘six hours of crisis talks’ on Friday before deciding to press ahead with the Assange referendum.
    • On Friday evening, Co-Debate Officer James Riseley resigned from his position.
    • On Saturday lunchtime, Women’s Officer Helen Dallas quit after opposing the Union’s referendum on moral grounds.
    • Publicity Officer and last year’s treasurer Jack Lewy quit on Tuesday after becoming disenchanted with the Union’s pernicious internal politics.
    • It follows Alex Eadie’s decision to resign from the publicity team before the start of term.
    • Senior Union officials reject crisis talk but admit “steps must be taken to improve morale in the coming days.”
    The resignation of Women’s Officer Helen Dallas has been triggered by the Union’s referendum over guest speaker and WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange but the other departures mark the culmination of rising tensions over recent weeks.

    If the members vote in favour of the Assange talk, the Union will host the Australian journalist on November 11. It is proposed that he will speak to the chamber via video-link.

    Dallas is understood to have resigned as she is opposed to the possibility of offering a platform to Assange – a man who still faces charges of rape and is yet to go on trial.

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    Cambridge Union Statement Fact Checker | Justice for Assange


    Those writing about Assange and voting in the Cambridge Union’s referendum should inform themselves of the facts, as contained in official court documents:

    1. Assange has not been charged. The UK Supreme Court has stated that Assange’s extradition has been ordered in the absence of a decision to charge him The prosecutor has not made a decision as to whether the case will come to trial, as it is a ’preliminary investigation’. The UK Supreme Court has acknowledged that the ruling in Assange was decided on an erroneous legal argument.

    2. Assange does not "believe" there is an espionage case against him, it is a fact. The US Department of Justice has stated to Federal US Court that there is an espionage case against Assange. He is also being investigated for 4 other crimes.

    3. Assange has not "refused to come to trial or indeed be questioned" Assange has asked that he be interrogated in the UK by Swedish authorities since 2010, but the prosecutor declined. Since he was arrested in 2010, 44 other people have been questioned in the UK by Sweden. The Swedish Court of Appeal (confirmed by Sweden’s Supreme Court) made a finding in 2014 that the prosecutor in the case had breached her duty in the Assange case by refusing to progress the case by questioning Assange in the UK for 5 years.

    4. Assange did not "flee". Assange stayed in Sweden for 5 weeks in order to be questioned, during which time the prosecutor declined to question him on a number of occasions. Assange left Sweden with the consent of the prosecutor. He entered the Ecuadorian embassy and applied for asylum, which is his right, and was granted it in relation to the US espionage case.

    5. Assange has already been cleared and the woman says the police made it up in order to ’get him’. On August 25 2010, Assange was cleared of the suspicion of ’rape’ by Stockholm’s Chief Prosecutor Eva Finne, who stated she "made the assessment that the evidence did not disclose any offence of rape (against SW)". On 25 of August, the prosecutor stated that "The conduct alleged by SW disclosed no crime at all and that file (K246314-10) would be closed". The case was only resurrected after a politician, Claes Borgstrom, intervened in the case. Evidence retrieved by Swedish police from text messages from the woman concerned’s phone; which she sent while she was at the police station state that she "did not want to put any charges on JA but that the police were keen on grabbing him" (14:26); and that she was “shocked when they arrested JA because she only wanted him to take a [HIV] test” (17:06). The police report states that she felt “railroaded by police and others around her”, that she “did not want to accuse JA for anything”; and an SMS from 22:25 said that “it was the police who made up the charges”.

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  33. Anonymous Member

    The comment thread is interesting!
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    12 October 2015 Via Cryptome:

    Swedish Prosecutor Comment on Assange Supervision

    The Assange matter – comment concerning the supervision


    Comment by the prosecutor about the decision from the Metropolitan Police to withdraw the physical presence of police officers from outside the Ecuadorian Embassay, where Mr. Assange resides.

    – This is a decision made by British authorities and is not a result of actions by a Swedish prosecutor. I am fully confident that the Metropolitan Police makes correct judgement and that they handle the supervision in the best possible way, says Director of Public Prosecution Ms. Marianne Ny.

    – As we have announced earlier, the investigation will continue with respect to suspected rape, less serious crime. We are awaiting a general agreement between Sweden and Ecuador, to enable Ecuador to give consent to interview Mr. Assange at the embassy in London, says Marianne Ny.


    Julian Assange, on his own accord, has evaded prosecution by seeking refuge in the Embassy of Ecuador. Great Britain, therefore, has not been able to execute the decision from the Supreme Court to surrender him to Sweden.

    Link to chronology in the Assange matter
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    Police: Assange would be arrested if he left embassy to visit hospital | The Guardian

    Ecuador’s foreign minister Ricardo Patiño has called for WikiLeaks founder to get safe passage for MRI scan on shoulder

    The Metropolitan police have confirmed that their officers would arrest the WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange if he left the Ecuadorian embassy in London to go to hospital for a medical examination.

    Ecuador’s foreign minister, Ricardo Patiño, said Assange, who has been living in the embassy for more than three years, should be given safe passage to hospital for an MRI scan to help diagnose a pain in his shoulder.

    The Foreign Office said Assange, who is subject to a European arrest warrant over an allegation of rape in Sweden, will not be prevented by the British authorities from receiving medical treatment. But it said questions over his arrest were a matter for the Met, which this week scaled back its costly 24-hour surveillance of the embassy.

    Scotland Yard confirmed that Assange would face arrest if he stepped outside the embassy, even if a mobile MRI scanner were parked outside the building in Knightsbridge, central London.

    Assange, an Australian national, sought political asylum at the embassy in June 2012 to avoid extradition to Sweden. His American lawyer, Carey Shenkman, accused Britain of forcing Assange to “choose between the human right to asylum and the human right to medical treatment”.

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    Five years confined: New FOIA documents shed light on the Julian Assange case

    The role of the Crown Prosecution Service lawyers in advising the Swedish prosecutors, their comments on the extradition case as not being handled as just another extradition request, the questioning in the embassy that never took place. Files obtained by l'Espresso under the Freedom of Information Act provide a five-year account of the Swedish case against the WikiLeaks founder.
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  39. DeathHamster Member

    You can only "evade prosecution" if you've actually been charged with anything.
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