Islamic Republic of Rape

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  1. I married Iranian girls before their execution | Iran news | Jerusalem Post

    'I wed Iranian girls before execution'

    In a shocking and unprecedented interview, directly exposing the inhumanity of Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei's religious regime in Iran, a serving member of the paramilitary Basiji militia has told this reporter of his role in suppressing opposition street protests in recent weeks.

    He has also detailed aspects of his earlier service in the force, including his enforced participation in the rape of young Iranian girls prior to their execution.

    The interview took place by telephone, and on condition of anonymity. It was arranged by a reliable source whose identity can also not be revealed.

    Founded by Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini in 1979 as a "people's militia," the volunteer Basiji force is subordinate to the Iranian Revolutionary Guards and intensely loyal to Khomeini's successor, Khamenei.

    The Basiji member, who is married with children, spoke soon after his release by the Iranian authorities from detention. He had been held for the "crime" of having set free two Iranian teenagers - a 13-year-old boy and a 15-year-old girl - who had been arrested during the disturbances that have followed the disputed June presidential elections.

    "There have been many other police and members of the security forces arrested because they have shown leniency toward the protesters out on the streets, or released them from custody without consulting our superiors," he said.

    He pinned the blame for much of the most ruthless violence employed by the Iranian security apparatus against opposition protesters on what he called "imported security forces" - recruits, as young as 14 and 15, he said, who have been brought from small villages into the bigger cities where the protests have been centered.

    "Fourteen and 15-year old boys are given so much power, which I am sorry to say they have abused," he said. "These kids do anything they please - forcing people to empty out their wallets, taking whatever they want from stores without paying, and touching young women inappropriately. The girls are so frightened that they remain quiet and let them do what they want."

    These youngsters, and other "plainclothes vigilantes," were committing most of the crimes in the names of the regime, he said.

    Asked about his own role in the brutal crackdowns on the protesters, whether he had been beaten demonstrators and whether he regretted his actions, he answered evasively.

    "I did not attack any of the rioters - and even if I had, it is my duty to follow orders," he began. "I don't have any regrets," he went on, "except for when I worked as a prison guard during my adolescence."

    Explaining how he had come to join the volunteer Basiji forces, he said his mother had taken him to them.

    When he was 16, "my mother took me to a Basiji station and begged them to take me under their wing because I had no one and nothing foreseeable in my future. My father was martyred during the war in Iraq and she did not want me to get hooked on drugs and become a street thug. I had no choice," he said.

    He said he had been a highly regarded member of the force, and had so "impressed my superiors" that, at 18, "I was given the 'honor' to temporarily marry young girls before they were sentenced to death."

    In the Islamic Republic it is illegal to execute a young woman, regardless of her crime, if she is a virgin, he explained. Therefore a "wedding" ceremony is conducted the night before the execution: The young girl is forced to have sexual intercourse with a prison guard - essentially raped by her "husband."

    "I regret that, even though the marriages were legal," he said.

    Why the regret, if the marriages were "legal?"

    "Because," he went on, "I could tell that the girls were more afraid of their 'wedding' night than of the execution that awaited them in the morning. And they would always fight back, so we would have to put sleeping pills in their food. By morning the girls would have an empty expression; it seemed like they were ready or wanted to die.

    "I remember hearing them cry and scream after [the rape] was over," he said. "I will never forget how this one girl clawed at her own face and neck with her finger nails afterwards. She had deep scratches all over her."

    Returning to the events of the last few weeks, and his decision to set free the two teenage detainees, he said he "honestly" did not know why he had released them, a decision that led to his own arrest, "but I think it was because they were so young. They looked like children and I knew what would happen to them if they weren't released."

    He said that while a man is deemed "responsible for his own actions at 13, for a woman it is 9," and that it was freeing the 15-year-old girl that "really got me in trouble.

    "I was not mistreated or really interrogated while being detained," he said. "I was put in a tiny room and left alone. It was hard being isolated, so I spent most of my time praying and thinking about my wife and kids."
  2. This makes me really fucking angry and is why I pretty much hate all religions. The only belief worth upholding is freedom for all.
  3. Vee Member

    Assuming this is true, this both tears your heart apart as a person and makes you want to tear someone elses out.
  4. Visionary Member


    If this is true...then I am speechless...mostly...other than a few thousand profanities.

    This makes me wonder though what will become of the basiji if things in Iran are to change for the better. (not really something for non-Iranians to decide...but I am curious)
  5. You can't help but be amazed at the perversion of the people who devised these laws. Considering that most unmarried women in Islamic countries are virgins, these bastards have basically given themselves a free pass to rape any young woman who is sentenced to death.
  6. :O

    sounds like something straight outta I, Claudius.
  7. JohnDoe Moderator

    I obviously cannot verify that this particular story is true . . . but I for one, horrified as I am, wouldn't be surprised if it were.

    The concept is certainly true and it is repulsive. Religious Rape! Makes you feel good about yourself eh . . . I mean to say you're doing to please Allah!!!*Deep Sigh*

    It truly is vile beyond words.

    Now wonder there were tweets on Friday encouraging men to keep the women on the inside and protect them as much as they could.
  8. Paleene Member

    too bad not to be true...

    It leaves me deep schockingly frightened about what people are willing to do only to save their own asses... And it scares me to allow myself thinking of all inhumanity fulfilled in the name of God. Obviously, religion can be a lethal weapon in the hands of idiots and retards. OK; we have seen that before. But it freezes one's heart to witness it is ongoing with such insane cruelty.

    And yes, *sigh* have to admitt it adds to my prejudice about what men misuse the Islam to...
  9. now that's how you destroy the institution of marriage. :mad:
  10. numerous accounts of them ass raping men, i really cannot see where this would not be likely if they have no problem with men..

    i mean the marriage is bad also, but it is not like we did not know the regime and its thugs work religion like play dough to acheive what they want..

    nothing is beyond this bunch obviously..
  11. Momaroloki Member

    Where does religion come into this? These people are cowards and animals, and would probably be doing this if they were atheists. There are many good people of all religions, and many bad people with no religion.
  12. Vee Member

    Religion itself isnt bad. Its man's taint that makes it so.

    Religion is used as a means to their ends. Religion at its core is a good thing. Its manipulation is a horrible thing.
  13. Momaroloki Member

    They aren't raping these women because of religion. They are doing it because they are animals. And these people just happen to be using religion to justify it. The English raped the Scottish before they could get married. They did not use Islam to justify it. They did it because they were animals. And I am sure there are many more examples, from all peoples and mindsets.
  14. Vee Member

    At the core there animals. They are not even human to me. To me they are already dead.
    But in this particular story they appear to be using guises of religion to do their atrocities.
  15. what i meant is the leaders justify the actions they perform with religion, for instance: you will be rewarded by Allah for killing your fellow citizens or according to the religion you must lose virginity before being executed etc..

    Its like me saying because Jesus awoke from the dead, I love zombies lol

    in no way do i ever judge a religion or feel qualified to judge a religion..
  16. Momaroloki Member

    True, but I recognize it as just an excuse. Like an alcoholic has excuses for why he is an alcoholic, or a better example would like the excuses a wife beater uses to explain why he beats his wife. He says she made him do it, his dinner was cold, she is cheating on him because he just feels it in his bones. It is all bullshit, and not the real reason he beats her. He does it because he is a pussy and she is an easy target to take his frustrations out on. Here, they use religion as an excuse, but it is not the real reason. There are plenty of people with the same faith who would not do what they do. They are just animals, plain and simple.

    It is disgusting. How can they live with themselves. I hope this basiji finds some small peace from letting the people go that he did. It will never make up for what he has done in the past, or bring the dead back or give them their dignity or peace of mind back, but at least there are two less people who had to suffer the same or similar fates.

    I am sure he will be haunted for however much longer his life lasts. Their pain lives on in his guilt. But at least he had the balls to stop, and not use his guilt to drive his making more excuses for himself and the continuance of what he was doing.
  17. Farad Member

    From the supreme dickweed's website:

    I guess the part where he says that "Islam made women stand at the same level where men stand" is accurate. If they chose to venture out of their house with a green ribbon around their arm, the state will be happy to rape them both. May the souls of these monsters burn in hell for the crimes they have commited.
  18. A better word for what they are is demons, not animals, because animals are far better creatures than what we are.
  19. Vee Member

    Oh yeah i was just talking in general. Not aimed at anyone in particular.

    I think we all agree these people need to be... (Cant condone violence on this forum)
  20. Paleene Member

  21. JohnDoe Moderator

    In the Islamic Republic it is illegal to execute a young woman, regardless of her crime, if she is a virgin, he explained. Therefore a "wedding" ceremony is conducted the night before the execution: The young girl is forced to have sexual intercourse with a prison guard - essentially raped by her "husband."

    That's where religion comes into it!
  22. Prayers

    Oh, Dear God, please save the people of Iran.....Amen
  23. Well, the same way as the title, we may call the IRG as Iranian Raping Group. They deserve it.
  24. May conscience arise

    and trouble other basiji as well so that they start helping people rather than attacking them...
  25. Jakomeyu Member

    headlines like this could pontentially alienate muslim supporters of our cause
  26. Yes this is true.
    This has been happeneing during the last 30 years.
    My father who was a reporter and was taking photos witnessed the event. He wasn't in the room during the event but he along others could hear the girl screaming.
  27. yeah, i've heard about cases like this happening in the past. i'm curious, did the forced marriage/rape start up after the 1979 revolution, or was this punishment sort of inherited from the shah's era in the same way evin prison and its interrogation techniques were retained for the same purposes of the regime?
  28. While there are many vicious things going on inside the prison in Iran, this article is propaganda.

    There is no law either in Islam or in Iran that it is "illegal" to execute a virgin woman. I would like to see them cite the law that makes it illegal. Before this rumor used to be that they rape them so that they are not virgin when they die because virgins go to heaven. Again, there is nothing in Islam about being virgin or not being virgin that has anything to do with going to heaven.

    Secondly, this "wedding ceremony" is a mutah contract, which requires consent of both parties, otherwise it is not valid. I doubt any woman is consenting to these.

    I am sure there are cases of women being raped in Iran prisons as we are hearing some such stories now. But it cannot be official policy or law, and I also doubt it being sanctioned unofficially. Being raped, and being a rapist, are both highly stigmatized in Iran. If someone is going to rape, he will make efforts to make sure no one knows that he doing so.
  29. Machiavelli Member

    The chain of command is long.

    I could imagine this being ignored by the "religious" types in the upper echelons, who seem to live in some kind of parallel reality.
    It could be a case, where someone responsible locally just makes up the rules he wants, because he feels safe to do so and the animal enjoys it.

    The underlying problem is in my eyes, that perverts are attracted by those jobs and they have nothing to fear from their superiors, because those simply don't care.
  30. Shhh-IRAN Member

    Why are they executing young girls in the first place?
  31. Yes it is a sharia law in islam not to conduct a punishment on a virgin female, she can either be exonerated or her virginity removed. I guess thugs in barbaric ripofflic prefer the latter.
    You can not even divorce your wife if she is still virgin.
  32. this is the most vile abomination of marriage that i have ever heard of. you dont want to know what i am screaming in my mind right now.
  33. CradleOfCiv Member

    It's insulting to animals to call these people animals you know... I do not think this is animal at all. There is not one animal capable of such cruelty. This a kind of behavior strictly belonging to human. Makes one sad...
  34. AStranger Member

    This reminds me of the dystopian literature about how decandant societies are inevitably accompanied by orgies of violence. However, instead of having this take place in a futuristic Western capitalist society, it's happening in Iran.

    And of course, despite all the Iranian regime's allegations about how the Western societies are living in sin, it appears that the regime itself is doing much worse in that area.
  35. @ UG #28

    I have not idea about that law but .............. according to Qu'ran children and righteous persons go to paradise. According to lranian law in many cases unmarried women are treated as children, they are under the guidance of their parents. So someone probably put two and two together and made four.

    Wedding ceremonies are theoretically cosensual, however, in some cases consent is assumed. In special circumstances the father or bride's guardian can give a consent. Juridically it is then treated as if the bride gave a consent.

    Now, the wedding ceremonies and events the article has described probably took place after the fall of shah or during the Iran-Iraq war. After the fall of shah Tudeh (communists) and islamists acted together against secularists. And then Tudeh and islamists fell out and people from islamic courts killed many Tudeh people who helped them in their victory. During that time mullahs killed thousands of secularists and communists. Many of secularists and Tudeh members were young girls, straight out of school or still in school. The people who killed them had to make excuses for their own behaviour, for peace of their mind and the "virgin" thing was part of it.

    I wonder if you had heard of Khalkali - the one who was called "handing judge" It was during his time that "revolutionary courts" terrorized many Iranians.

    Islamic revolution, like all revolutions, has many terrible pages.
  36. Voters Union Member

    As the previous poster pointed out, the article has two different timelines:

    1) The PRESENT where this Basiji person and others like him have got into trouble after showing leniency towards the protesters, and where he blames the worst actions on youngsters and "other plainclothes vigilantes" who are "forcing people to empty out their wallets, taking whatever they want from stores without paying, and touching young women inappropriately".

    2) The PAST, when this same person was 18 years old and participated in the rapes that he describes. As his father died in the Iraq-Iran war this incident can have happened somewhere in the (early?) 1980's, roughly about 30 years ago.

    The propaganda part of this article is neatly tying together past and present and leaving the reader with the sense that this is all is what is happening right now with the approval of Khamenei (who became SL in 1989). It is deplorable anyway, of course.

    (my bolding)
  37. Those 'supporters' who would be alienated are not allies, they (and their religion) are part of the problem.
  38. I would just like to point out that the correct term is "raep" since we're online here.

  39. @ Voters Union

    I pointed out (#35)that article has two different timelines, but I do not agree that it is propaganda.

    1) In the past, the basiji guy the article is talking about was young, he was 16. The present basiji guys are also the same age or younger
    2) Because he was young and he was fanatic, he committed atrocities. I am not sure if you noticed but it is the teenagers who have strongest convictions and commit majority of atrocities during the wars or revolutions. Usually the older guys just give them commands. Presently atrocities are also being committed, and they are committed by young basiji. Women and children are being badly beaten and some people got rapped in Evin . Also some people got killed.
    3) The present commander of Pasdaran and Basiji is Khamenei. Neither Basiji nor Pasdaran people could behave like that if their commanders did not allow them to do this.
    4) During the presidency of khamenei (1981 - 1989) there were many attrocities; he was accomplice in the killing then. Now he is the leader of the Republic and commander of the RG and regular military; he is an accomplice in the killings now.
  40. This is a true story. I was a child but I remember a girl of my family who was executed and it was during the war. Some day, a basiji or pasdar had knocked the door of his parents bringing cake and a few money as Mehrieh of their daughter's wedding before execution. You can imagine how they would have felt, hearing that. The father died very soon after this happened and the mother after a long period of illness. But it was a secret in our family and no one has talked about it .

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