Investigation overdue: SP Times Editorial

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I think it's so they wont quote you or some shit.

If enough people put you on their ignore list I'll take a couple hours off work and write a spam bot that just quotes your posts under like 40 different sock puppers + anon.

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^such a giver

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You're a good man skep.

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Damn

I bet that was snide

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Wait....

What is JamesP.... IS Herro?!

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Trufax.
It was awesome.

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If she is a man, maybe just a handshake would be in order.

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The Nazis had a religion. It was the Thule Society. If today Nazis were actively working to take over our country would cries of religious intolerance leave us impotent to protect ourselves?

To be “in ethics” any Scientologist Sea Org Member or Public must believe that the goal of clearing the plant is an end which justifies any means. A clear planet implies total social political and economic control by Scientology. All would fall within its jurisdiction.

Attorney Graham Berry, September 4,, 2008, Hamburg


HCO BULLETIN OF 23 JUNE 1960.THE SPECIAL ZONE PLAN, The Scientologist's Role in Life
Refund and Reparation - HCOB: The Special Zone Plan

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Do it, big mouth.

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No, Herro is fairly intelligent. JamesP is a special kind of stupid.

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LMAO, sorry guys, I had to bump this thread to post this one. It's a true gem.

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RICO offenses
Under the law, racketeering activity means:

Any violation of state statutes against gambling, murder, kidnapping, extortion, arson, robbery, bribery, dealing in obscene matter, or dealing in a controlled substance or listed chemical (as defined in the Controlled Substances Act);
Any act of bribery, counterfeiting, theft, embezzlement, fraud, dealing in obscene matter, obstruction of justice, slavery, racketeering, gambling, money laundering, commission of murder-for-hire, and several other offenses covered under the Federal criminal code (Title 18);
Embezzlement of union funds;
Bankruptcy fraud or securities fraud;
Drug trafficking;
Money laundering and related offenses;
Bringing in, aiding or assisting aliens in illegally entering the country (if the action was for financial gain);
Acts of terrorism.
Pattern of racketeering activity requires at least two acts of racketeering activity, one of which occurred after the effective date of this chapter and the last of which occurred within ten years (excluding any period of imprisonment) after the commission of a prior act of racketeering activity. The U.S. Supreme Court has instructed federal courts to follow the continuity-plus-relationship test in order to determine whether the facts of a specific case give rise to an established pattern. Predicate acts are related if they "have the same or similar purposes, results, participants, victims, or methods of commission, or otherwise are interrelated by distinguishing characteristics and are not isolated events." (H.J. Inc. v. Northwestern Bell Telephone Co.) Continuity is both a closed and open ended concept, referring to either a closed period of conduct, or to past conduct that by its nature projects into the future with a threat of repetition.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rackete...anizations_Act

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§ 1589. Forced labor
(a) Whoever knowingly provides or obtains the labor or services of a person by any one of, or by any combination of, the following means—
(1) by means of force, threats of force, physical restraint, or threats of physical restraint to that person or another person;
(2) by means of serious harm or threats of serious harm to that person or another person;
(3) by means of the abuse or threatened abuse of law or legal process; or
(4) by means of any scheme, plan, or pattern intended to cause the person to believe that, if that person did not perform such labor or services, that person or another person would suffer serious harm or physical restraint,
shall be punished as provided under subsection (d).
(b) Whoever knowingly benefits, financially or by receiving anything of value, from participation in a venture which has engaged in the providing or obtaining of labor or services by any of the means described in subsection (a), knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that the venture has engaged in the providing or obtaining of labor or services by any of such means, shall be punished as provided in subsection (d).
(c) In this section:
(1) The term “abuse or threatened abuse of law or legal process” means the use or threatened use of a law or legal process, whether administrative, civil, or criminal, in any manner or for any purpose for which the law was not designed, in order to exert pressure on another person to cause that person to take some action or refrain from taking some action.
(2) The term “serious harm” means any harm, whether physical or nonphysical, including psychological, financial, or reputational harm, that is sufficiently serious, under all the surrounding circumstances, to compel a reasonable person of the same background and in the same circumstances to perform or to continue performing labor or services in order to avoid incurring that harm.
(d) Whoever violates this section shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both. If death results from a violation of this section, or if the violation includes kidnaping, an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, the defendant shall be fined under this title, imprisoned for any term of years or life, or both. Search this title:

St PetersburgTime: Scientology investigation overdue

I didn't see this anywhere. (if it is I know, lurk moar)



Scientology investigation overdue - St. Petersburg Times

Send your emails here

Criminal Division Homepage

[mod]Not lurk moar, check to see if someone already posted it - Azazel[/mod]

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^ Heh yeah.
http://forums.whyweprotest.net/312-st-petersburg-times-expose/investigation-overdue-sp-times-editorial-56030/

Hard to keep track sometimes?

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atm, Right at the top, underneath the stickies, of the ST.PETERSBURG TIMES SITUATION ROOM

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JamesP ran away. We win.

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I think the JamesP screen name has been RPF'd. He's not been seen since yesterday afternoon and there's no sign of an equally persistent replacement.

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Yeah, he ran off shortly after someone pointed out that all his trolling did was cause people to post links to more Scientology crimes.

I find it absolutely hilarious that they think that their fail-trolling on articles will somehow make people sympathize with them. They need to realize that Tone 40 doesn't work over the internet (or at all).

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not to beat a dead horse, but THIS ^^^^^^
the only thing the cult understands is the almighty dollah. wake up IRS.

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I have been sending emails here once a month since the beginning. Today I sent 5.
Criminal Division Homepage

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Maybe an Operation: You've Got Mail Redux is in order?

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What I like best about the SP Times series:

1. Accounts of abuse from the top
2. Personal accounts of followers
3. Chronicle of escapees being pursued and harassed.
4. Demand for investigation

This series was all set up nicely to lead up to #4. I see what they did there.

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Could make a good movie, with several parallel storylines, about the collapse of the cult of scientology.

Went it's all over, call Redford. He could finance, produce and star in it and get his old mate to reprise their roles somewhat.....



Hoffman would have to eat crow since he did once support the shillebrity cult "religious freedumb" baaaw against Germany at one time.

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bump

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Mem555 seems to be a Scilon who is actually concerned about the allegations of violence. "ObjectiveReporting" is probably a JamesP sock.

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"ObjectiveReporting" has a very vivid imagination to say the least. It shouldn't be long before he brings up the $cilon's German psyche conspiracy theory.

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One thing is fairly certain: this latest editorial has the scis worried. In comparison to the other articles, they're trolling the comments like there's no tomorrow.

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This. ^ Of course, they fail to realize that the only thing their relentless fail-trolling is doing is proving the SP Times are telling the truth when they talk about OSA, and making people despise the cult even more.

But hey. The tech works, right?

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That's it guys, Chanology's over, we're killing Clearwater.

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Did they lock out the comments? Going to the editorial link in the OP doesn't show old comments or allow new comments.

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Obi-Wan,

If you're using Firefox, check your cookie blocker exceptions...if SP Time's isn't in the exceptions you get no comments.

BigBeard

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ya but the thing is, when that shit happens, everyone knows who did it. But as France showed, the law can still pwn their ass.

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from the comments

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Jenny = Awesome.

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Jenny's response is pretty good. But actually not accurate.

I did some research on this "excommunication" claim a while ago.

It's a bunch of crap that should be thrown in their faces every time they try it.

Google the names of the 11 people yourself.

You will find that the worst one of them all for example, Jane Kember is listed in scientology Completions as "OT Eligible" in 2003
Jane Kember - Scientology Service Completions | Truth About Scientology Statistics Project

I ran all the names and most were back in and some went on to higher OT levels. Interesting, wouldn't you say all you little Sea Org drones who can't hope to get as high? why are they telling you that these guys were tossed?

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Here's Mo Budlong:

listed in 2001 WISE directory, as well as taking courses up to 1996

Mo Budlong - Scientology Service Completions | Truth About Scientology Statistics Project

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Here's a picture of Hennig Heldt on the Flag World Tour in June 2008:

Ex Scientologist Message Board - View Single Post - Where are they now - Henning Heldt

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Shall we talk about former GO, but now founding Patron and at least OT VI Duke Snider?

Guess money talks, bullshit walks:

Duke Snider - Scientology Service Completions | Truth About Scientology Statistics Project