Discussion in 'News and Current Events' started by Anonymous, Aug 10, 2012.
Psychopaths, including sexual ones like Strawn, do not benefit from psychotherapy of any kind.
If you would read the thread you would know that it's been continued. I'll let you sift through it to find the date.
I've spoken with the mother. I have heard evidence from other people who were not so fortunate to have gone to the police about this pig. This is not this guy's first victim. I do NOT believe in the death penalty for these monsters. I think they should spend the rest of their miserable lives behind bars in maximum security. Keep them away from children. Let them live and live and live in prison until the end. Yup. No death penalty for them.
Why? I saw a documentary on pedophiles who were getting therapy in prison before their release. They showed individual therapy sessions, the group sessions, and they interviewed the convicted pedophiles. One pedophile started crying. He basically said that no amount of therapy was going to help him because he was sexually attracted to children. He couldn't help it. He didn't want to be attracted to children, but he could not help himself. He was worried about getting out and ruining another child's life, but he had served his time and he was going to be released. He knew he was going to molest another child.
No amount of therapy can make a gay person straight.
I have no idea what your sexual preference is, but I can tell you that I am straight. No amount of therapy could make me gay or make me bi-sexual or make me a pedophile.
No amount of therapy can change a pedophile's predilection toward children.
Yes there are many pedophiles who were molested themselves. I'm sorry they were molested. This does not mean that I want to give them a free pass to molest again. The vicious cycle must end.
Back in the day I supervised pedophiles on the job. I thought treatment worked. I was wrong, they do what they have to do, and say what they have to say until they are free. The only way they stay safe is when there are monitors, and I mean lots and lots of monitors- home life, job, school, church. They are unable to live a life free of children.
Cool. Well, then, YOU pay for them to live, Ms. Bleeding Heart.
I catch a pedophile near my kids and "oops, officer, we were fighting over my legally registered weapon and it went off."
Strawn was an ETHICS SPECIALIST (Source 57) per hubbard's bullshit courses and went on to rape 2 little girls using scientology technology of locationals as a vehicle to molest them
Strawn's 'church'...actually, some of you really need to LurkMoar.
Also, until some of you have been molested as a child, you'll NEVAH know the impact or ramifications on the victims.....no matter how much you read.
Scientology enables this sort of thing, and IMO, it actually encourages it via hubbard's lunacies about children.
Simply put, if scientology worked the way it claims, NEVAH would any child have been molested by a scientologist, let alone a fucking HUBBARD ETHICS SPECIALIST.
i r getting angary at some rationalization about Strawn ITT.
Bleeding Heart? Prison is horrible. A whole lifetime of prison must be absolute hell. It costs more to defend someone on death row than it is to let them rot in prison. I would prefer to save money and make sure that a pedophile spends endless days thinking about what he's done and knowing that it's never going to happen again.
Your bravado is admirable, but you just never can tell what a jury will decide if you're let go or end up in prison for doing away with someone who molested your child. I met a man in prison once who was serving a life sentence for premeditated murder because he killed the man who molested his infant. INFANT. The prosecutor went after this guy who had never even had a parking ticket and he ended up doing life in a fucking hell hole of a prison. He was the quietest, kindest guy. He had been a trustee for years, but he was still IN prison and was never getting out.
Do you have any evidence Strawn was molested as a child?
And remember, AMA's a hardened criminal.
BTW, the mom needs to let the prison warden know of her concerns about this guy getting out. That helps against the guy sometimes, he's under a microscope and the prison is more likely to slap him for small actions otherwise ignored.
I had the misfortune of doing the hubbard ethics specialist course back in the 1980's. It is/was 100% fabrication and justification for whatever hubbard wanted to get away with. The lesson I learned from wasting my time on that crap was that scientology and ethics are oxymoronic. The folks who go away from the course believing that crap are potential criminals.
Doesn't he, for life, have to register as a sex offender? He should, technically, always be locatable?
It depends on the state. The rules vary. He could conceivably move to a state with looser regulations.
Tell me...is it hard for you to maintain a proper diet while living in Candy Land?
I don't want to tangent off too much here, but a few years back something similar happened her in AU. The victims Father/Uncle(I cant recall exact the details atm) was a Policeman. When he found out what was happening, he effectively ran the perpetrator on R2-45 with his service revolver. The guy got off under " diminished capacity/responsibility ". Law was altered after that. No longer is it a defense(not that I know of in N.S.W at least) to retaliate by way of "diminished capacity/responsibility "
From my own POV, child molesters earn the right to be sexually violated until they are DEAD DEAD DEAD of old age.
Strap em in a cage with a rabid and horny donkey.
Fuck off. Legitimate question. Is it hard for you to maintaina proper diet when always eating shit and looking like you've just eaten shit?
The only real solution to uncontrollable male sexual deviance, especially when it involves kids.
Chop them off.
For those who think pedophiles are EVER safe at large- read this. They are sure that what they do is OK, and have tried to tie themselves to the GayRights movement, where they were booted.
Your naivete is just precious. They lose kids in the system here in Florida. The agencies can't keep up. If they're losing kids in the system what makes you think they can keep up with a pesky pedophile?
Reasonable answer. You 're precious too.
No hugging. Okay?
Where will Akbar Muhammad aka Donald Anthony Strawn flee shortly after his release from prison? I am voting for Saint Kitts and Nevis based on three leads:
1. Farrakhan's mom was from there.
2. The SK and N Prime minister likes to hang out on the Freewinds.
3. The place I work gets phone spam from there trying to sell business management software.
Yes I am trolling for lulz. Don''t take too srs.
Yes. It is generally a felony to fail to register.
Well shoot me for missing something.
If you read my post you'll see the bit where I said that the ones who don't respond to treatment need to be permanently excluded from society and that everyone who sexually abuses a child still needs to be punished for the crime, whether they were a victim themselves or not. Believe me I'm no bleeding heart because I'm for a lengthy first sentence and then life if there's a repeat.
I agree a hardwired sexual preference can't be changed by therapy, but I never said all paedos can be cured.
If you damage a child you also can hurt the adult they become. Most only harm themselves and end up in therapy, after engaging in destructive relationships and behaviour, which is where the abuse first comes to light.
A few, and there's heavy emphasis on the word few, perpetrate the cycle of abuse. Leading them to snap out of their fantasy world and understand the pain they have caused really is not the soft option. Even then they need to be monitored and never allowed to be in a position of trust around children because it simply isn't worth the risk.
@612, The first part of my post was speaking generally. I don't know if Strawn has been psychologically evaluated, but if he hasn't and is opposing probation to avoid therapeutic treatment, it's not sounding good. My sympathies are firmly with the people who were strong enough to speak out and have him jailed in the first place.
@whoever thinks the cycle of abuse is an urban myth:-
Enough derail from me but I do like to head off the string 'em all up brigade.
Look pal, it's one thing for a "link" and another thing for the perception you may have created.
I have never been one to spill my guts, but I was a child victim, and not ONCE did it enter my mind (as even an older prepubescent child formulating my sexuality into my formative years) to have sex with a child.
Until you poast a meta-study on the issue, cawks for you
Oh, and what is most often the #1 defense abusers come up with(only after they are caught!)? I WAS A VICTIM TOO!
So, ANY perpetrator can use the excuse they were also a victim.
Yeah, Nuremberg-type defense don't cut it
Am I getting feisty here? Oh you better fucking believe it!
I agree and ditto.
Just because a pedophile says they were molested doesn't mean they were. Most will say whatever they think will work to their advantage.
"Most of the offshore financial business is concentrated in Nevis. St. Kitts and Nevis is home to one offshore bank, 50 trust and company service providers, 950 trusts, and 15,000 offshore corporations. The State Department considers the nation a “major risk for corruption and money laundering, due to a high volume of narcotics trafficking” and “an inadequately regulated economic citizenship program.”
That's why the scientology crime syndicate has such an "affinity" for the place.
That link was to a scientific study published in the British Journal of Psychiatry. Go find yourself a good therapist because you've clearly got unresolved issues if you're triggered so easily and screaming at me isn't going to help you much.
The atmosphere of intolerance on this board has been getting a bit out of hand lately. People are speaking to others here with an utter contempt for each other and dissenting points of views. Need we remind each other that is what Scientology does? I don’t know why people expect others to back down after verbally attacking another for their point of view. I thought the whole point of WWP is to give a voice to everyone wanting to take on a topic. Some act like if you don’t agree with them, you are destroying the world or some crap and that give them a right to degenerate the discussion in to Tea Party like insults. No one is taking your opinon away from you by being totaly against your opinon, so please stop acting like it is.
Your Evil Glactic Overlord
Fuck off and die, XIL.
I love you too. and be happy
Be happy because you think murdering innocents is acceptable Anonymous behavior?
No, I'll stick to the "fuck off and die, XIL."
And I want you to know something. I truly, truly, deeply mean that. If you got murdered tomorrow I would pay the killer's legal expenses. You make me hope Hell exists, because nothing would please me more than the thought of you being tortured unendingly for the rest of eternity.
i also long for the days of enturbulation when we could kill it with fire.
you're relatively new here. you have no idea what this board has been like. why don't you go to a happier place where everyone hugs even when they disagree.
Shit, AMA, I don't mean Enturbulation. I mean he literally makes me hope hell exists as a place that he'll go to until the second coming of Jesus or whatever the shit.
EDIT: And I hope Jesus gets stuck in traffic and is unavoidably delayed.
I have been hear a long time but for someone who has this on their profile I can see you need help
"I'm not crazy, I've just been in a very bad mood 40 years! ~ Ouiser Boudreaux Jan 16, 2012"
Would have been my responce to your last insult when you asked what happened to this board.
It evolved by accepting diverse points of view., we invite you slither out of the slime and join us. I mean if you want to stop acting like slime and attacking people. It is clear that we don't agree, I have done my best to not make it personal. You do know it is ok for two people to totally have completely opposite points of views without getting nasty? It is one of the reasons I like this movement.
So you want to send people to burn in a fire for all time that don't agree with you? Sick very sick.
I'm going to need you to jump off a cliff right about now, pal.
Why not, you want to see people get killed because they do IT work for the government.
I nver said I wanted to see anyone die and you know it. I sure don't want to see you jump off a cliff. I also don't think a derail of this thread will help either. I am just asking that the nasty attacks and inults be exchanged for debate and opnions.
i know you didn't just insult a character from the steel magnolias movie! i know you didn't do that, right?
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