Independent Scientology Milestone Two Explains Buddhism

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  1. Independent Scientology Milestone Two Explains Buddhism.

    With regard to the NOTE highlighted below, is its purpose to defend against a charge of other practices?

    Milestone Two: Going Clear and beyond

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    Posted by Lana M.

    October 19, 2015

    by Jim Logan

    Along with studying the St. Hill Special Briefing Course tapes and materials, I have been studying various “data of comparable magnitude” (see NOTE below) including now, Buddhist texts. One body of work, the Abhidamma (translated variously as “abhi” – higher, about, and “dhamma/dharma” – basic truths, phenomena, ideas, data*), has extensive descriptions of the “citta” – the mind and goes to great lengths to delineate the many discrete moments of thinking or being conscious of some object, either mental or physical.

    Within this particular Abhidamma recension **, there is posited a sort of basic consciousness that runs along more or less continually that is conscious of existence as it is manifested, what can be described in Scientology in the Axioms as the first few actions of beingness in putting out points to view eg., bringing about a “duality” of view point and dimension point and subsequently establishing the continuous awareness of things to experience in the universe thus created and agreed upon that is available as the “time-track”. In 8-80 Ron describes this as follows:

    “Life is a static, according to the Axioms. A static has no motion. It has no wave length. The proofs and details of this are elsewhere in Scientology.

    “This static has the peculiarity of acting as a “mirror”. It records and holds the images of motion. It even can create motion and record and hold the image of that. It records also space and time in order to record motion which is, after all, only “change in space through time”. Played against motion as a kinetic, the static can produce live energy.

    “In a mind, any mind, the basic beingness is found to be a static on which motion can be recorded, and which, acting against motion, produces energy.

    “A memory is a recording of the physical universe. It contains—any memory—a time index (when it happened) and a pattern of motion. As a lake reflects the trees and moving clouds, so does a memory reflect the physical universe. Sight, sound, pain, emotion, effort, conclusions, and many other things are recorded in this static for any given instant of observation.

    “Such a memory we call a “facsimile”. The mind, examining a facsimile it has made, can see it, feel it, hear it, re-experience the pain in it, the effort, the emotion.

    “There are billions of facsimiles available to any mind. Billions of billions. These facsimiles can be brought into present time by the environment, and “unseen” or “unknown” by the awareness of awareness of the mind, can reimpress their pains, efforts, and aberrations upon the being, thus making one less liable to survive. All unknowingnesses, confusions, aberrations, psychosomatic ills are traceable to facsimiles.

    “One believes he can use any facsimile he has ever received. He has been hurt. He uses the facsimile of being hurt to hurt another. But since one survives as well as everything else survives, to hurt another is wrong. One regrets the injury, seeking to turn back time (which is regret). Thus the facsimile he used becomes interlocked with his facsimile of trying to use it and both facsimiles “hang up” and travel with present time. One even gets the pain he seeks to inflict on another, this being the action against him of the facsimile he sought to give, by action, to another. It startles the preclear, when run through a boyhood fight, wherein he hit another boy in the eye, to feel the pain in his own eye at the instant of the blow. And so it is with all inflicted injuries.

    “This is a simple matter of the interaction of the pictures of energy.”

    In the Buddhist materials there are mental “fabrications” described by the term “sankhara” (Pali and samskhara in Sanskrit. From “sam” prefix meaning “with, together” and krti – construct, make i.e., “put together” or “formations/constructions”). These “fabrications”, aside from the ones made as in a facsimile of one type or another, are the various fabrications that fabricate as well. These, both aspects, are the items including automaticities, valences, circuits, ridges, mental MEST, pictures, facsimiles, machinery of the mind, that behind-the-thetan-shoulder little “deposit” made up to let one know if they are being attacked by weevils, etcetera. You have sankhara that make up stuff, record stuff, perceive stuff that is made up to perceive (eg. A tree is a fabrication and there are fabrications (senses) made up to perceive the tree). Dianetically/Scientologically speaking – the various things a thetan creates either individually or in agreement that are there to experience as well as the means to experience them including all the pictures and machinery that sum up to the various aspects of “mind”.

    Aside from the “basic consciousness” and its running record, in the Buddhist theory there are other categories of consciousness that are defined in relationship to their operations as a being goes along involved with its created life. These different aspects of the consciousness/mind/thinking come up in a sequence of “thought moments” which is described in detail with so many “thought moments” at this stage and so many at that, all being concerned with the awareness and consideration/mind-ing of some thing one is “mind-ing” such as an object, circumstance and so on. That is, the moment to moment activity of the mind as it senses and computes existence either objectively or subjectively.

    Part of the sequence of moments of thinking is described by a term “javana” (derived from “impel” – go forward, push out – and described as “running swiftly”, that is, these moments go by pretty quick). These moments come after the object has been discerned and determined as some particular thing and are the moments when an “impulse” (a postulate/consideration) towards the item is made. Those impulses can be “good” or “bad”. That is, in Buddhist terms, one can have a good thought about the item (it’s nice, it’s beautiful, etc.) or a bad impulse such as hatred, anger, ill-will and so on. These are patterned-response impulses. Earlier postulates about something become fixed as “seeds of habit-energy”, that is, consideration or continuing postulates, held down 5’s in the computer, fixed ideas in the mind, etc.

    In Dianetics/Scientology terms; a being experiences an occurrence and records it as a mental image picture as part of the time track. Those experiences that are impactful, that is, engrams, contain all perceptics of the incident as well as decisions, postulates, considerations that are part of the recording and reside as re-creatable “stores of energy”. Secondary Engrams are intense emotional incidents and also contain decisions, postulates or restimulate earlier ones, as do locks. One behaves according to these recorded pictures, by decision, by postulate and dramatizes earlier conclusions (fixed as patterns of energy) that are not applicable to the present circumstance in lieu of present-time observation and a direct view of is-ness.

    (Note: This last is another category of javana that a being who is well advanced on the road to enlightenment has which is a calm equanimity toward the thing but there is no added idea or consideration from some past. He looks at it as it is. One could say he’s at “Lookingness” or higher on the Not-Know to Mystery Scale. It is also interesting to note that Not-Know as the First Postulate is indicated in the Buddhist theories as “ignorance”. Taking some license, one such scale might be described as the Ignorance to Mud scale, or, translated using the Scientology one, the entire series of steps from Native State, through Not-Know (“ignorance”) as the First Postulate to the Second Postulate of Know giving a “duality” and to gain persistence, all the way down to Mystery).

    The materials of the Abhidamma concerning the manifestations of mind are a compendium of the Buddhist theory of consciousness and the sundry creations and operations of mind. An important aspect of the work is towards gaining cause over mind, liberation and an exteriorization from the stimulus-response characteristics of an “effect” sort of life and living. A realization and being cause/source as essence of mind and all of its manifestations. (In some schools the aim of return to Native State, that is, no contact, no ARC, no extended points to view, thus no view point, no game, thus no mind to pose and resolve problems, no particles put out so no need to know of them via perception, etc.)

    “A very cursory glance at the Dharma discovers that it embraces these facts.

    ‘All that we are is the result of what we have thought; it is founded on our thoughts, it is made up of our thoughts.’ ‘By oneself evil is done; by oneself one suffers; by oneself evil is left undone; by oneself one is purified. Purity and impurity belong to oneself; no one can purify another.’ ‘You yourself must make an effort; the Buddhas are only preachers. The thoughtful who enter the way are freed from the bondage of sin.’ ‘He who does not rouse himself when it is time to rise, who, though young and strong, is full of sloth, whose will and thoughts are weak, that lazy and idle man will never find the way to enlightenment.’ ‘Strenuousness is the path of immortality, sloth the path of death. Those who are strenuous do not die; those who are slothful are as if dead already.’” LRH, Professional Auditors Bulletin 32 ***

    From Advanced Procedure and Axioms under Self-Determinism Processing:

    “Each and every aberration of the human mind and the human body has an initial postulate to be so aberrated. Engrams are effective only when the individual himself determines that they will be effective.”

    The Definition of Clear: A being who no longer has his own reactive mind. Clear is a state of being and as is obvious from the Buddhist texts that are more or less some 2,500 years old it has been an aim of beings on Earth alone, for quite some time.

    Discoveries by Ron Hubbard, keen insights, evaluations of importances, the establishing of the various points where the time-track gets charged up, snaggled, obscured, the resolution of the various factors that result in not only aberration, but the mind itself, and the developing and refining of a technology of application of principles all make the attainment of the state of Clear a reality for beings.

    We are rich in knowledge and have a positive methodology to attain the goals of so many, including ourselves.

    Finally, it is also interesting to remark that both Siddhartha and Ron Hubbard stated that it is not enough to practice the “dhyana” (the various stages, ways of “looking/knowing” ) or get auditing but one must study the materials and understand the subjects, that is, get trained and audit others, to make a complete Bridge to the Ultimate Realms. Fit “study time” into your schedule along with getting in sessions, making a life, creating and managing the household, mixing in compost for the garden, fly-fishing for trout, painting, getting the DVD and postulating time to watch Season 5 of Game of Thrones, climbing Everest or K2 for the really adventurous and all the other stuff one may do while living.

    As a hat tip and small token of admiration and humble appreciation- in- emulation to ancient rishis (“poet sages” who composed the Vedas), a hymn for my fellow Scientologists:

    Study, audit, get auditing,

    Learn, know, with certainty,

    Be, free.

    Uncover your Buddha-nature,



    The Ultimate Truth.

    Go Clear, regain OT,

    Know you,

    Without valence,

    And again,

    Be, free.


    *Dhamma (Pali)/dharma (Sanskrit) derived from Sanskrit “dhr” – hold, keep, maintain – “what is established”, hence “law”, has various meanings depending on context and ranging from an entire body of knowledge to a specific datum or phenomena. If one looks at the Logics 1-4 defining what is knowledge these meanings apply to “dhamma/dharma”.






    ** Buddhist texts are voluminous and different branches of the overall religion have different canons. I am referring in this instance to a section of the Abhidamma of the Pali Canon which is one collection of materials. This part of the texts, the Abhidamma (Pali spelling of dharma), is an example of exegetical commentary on what are considered the words of the Buddha. Since Siddhartha, the Buddha, didn’t actually write down any of his words they were carried on in an oral tradition and eventually compilations of the oral materials were put in writing. This leads to differences, some small, some significant, in both the written words and especially in the interpretations and commentarial additions to the store of knowledge, among the many schools of thought within Buddhism.

    *** various quotes from various Buddhist texts, taken from Professional Auditor’s Bulletin 32, 7 August 1954.

    NOTE: My own personal reason for studying these subjects of comparable magnitude and at this time the Vedas, Upanishads, the various Buddhist texts, is based on the idea of “data of comparable magnitude” and the evaluation of things as described in the materials of Scientology. Also, L. Ron Hubbard in many places acknowledges the wisdom he gleaned from these same bodies of knowledge. One place in particular is in a 3 June1955 taped lecture, The Hope of Man, (published as an Ability mag article in June 55 and available in the 91 Tech Vol III) where in reference to the sages of the east he states:

    “Don’t think for a moment that when I put together Dianetics I was not completely aware of practically everything any one of these men said in his own district and on his own home ground. If I had not had that information we would never have had Dianetics. But, what did I, a Western engineer, do? I said, ‘Well, these men are too sold on the spiritual side of life, they’re overboard. Nothing practical. We want everything workable. We want wheels. We want cogwheels.We want a standard procedure by which we can take a look at somebody on a couch and say, ‘Zip, zip, rip!’’. I was persuaded into this to some degree by my engineering friends-to some degree.

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  2. peterstorm Member

    Cool story bro!
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