Now I am confused. To recap the conversation: 1. Mann Ace said Walter Cronkite lied in 1968 about Vietnam. I did not know what Cronkite said in 1968 until I read Ann's link: 2. Cronkite wrote an opinion piece in 1968 which conveyed General Abrams' views post-Tet. Nothing Cronkite said sounded like a lie to me. 3. Mann Ace clarified that the US won the Tet offensive. So I guess he feels Cronkite's sense of stalemate was a misrepresentation of what was happening. But I wonder why General Adams would have said the US should get out of the war if things were actually going well. 4. Now you, dis, are saying that the press were too positive about how the US was doing. But Walter was actually negative. Then you say the press realized that they reported more Viet Minh dead than was the case. So the "lie" was the opposite of what Mann Ace was saying. The lie was in the direction of the war going well when it was not. But it does not seem that Walter was responsible for that. So was the lie that the US was losing when it was really winning, as Mann Ace claims? Or was the lie that the US was winning when it was actually not winning? And which part is Walter's fault?