Hubbard sexual magick with Jack Parsons

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  1. Anonymous Member

    Hubbard performed sexual 'magick' ceremonies with Jack Parsons

    Many of the symbols of Scientology were taken from ritual magic. Hubbard was a member of the AMORC Rosicrucians in 1940 and performed sexual 'magick' ceremonies with Jack Parsons, a follower of Aleister Crowley, in 1946.
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  3. Anonymous Member

    If you really think about it, it is not nearly as titillating as it sounds.
  4. Anonymous Member

    Neither is putting wire coat-hangers into the vagina of his wife to force abortion. But Hubbard did that too.

    Disgusting creature.
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  7. eddieVroom Member

    I don't recall Hubbard as having been directly involved with the Rosicrucians. Parsons was OTO, which was founded by Rosicrucians and headed by Crowley at the time Hubbard was a member of the Agape Lodge in Pasadena.

    I consider it likely that Hubbard had some access to Rosicrucian texts at that time, but largely related to them as a picture book -- hence, the similarities in images and themes, but no understanding of substance appears visible under that surface. Hubbard could B.S. with the best of them, but I do recall that Crowley thought Hubbard to be a fool and an idiot, and that Hubbard eventually stabbed his "brother" Parsons in the back, so to speak.
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  8. Anonymous Member

    Yes. Hubbard left with Parson's wife and boat. Few years later, blew himself up.
  9. Anonymous Member

    You have no idea how true this sentiment is. If you take Crowley's concepts of will and magic memory, take them to an absurdly stupid extreme while misunderstanding some of their meaning, then you get things like Dianetics and postulates...
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  10. Anonymous Member

    I find the topic "Hubbard and sex" intrinsically revolting.
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  11. heatberd Member

    Apparently his orgie guests disagree.
  12. The Church of Scientology's (Hubbard's) version of the Parsons/Hubbard relationship is amusing. Hubbard was working for the good old USA and infiltrated a Satanic spy ring for the purpose of busting it up. I don't know what is more hilarious; the story itself or the fact that Scientologists believe it to be the God given truth.
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  13. True. Hubbard was involved in the OTO headed by Aleister Crowley. Hubbard refers to this in lecture 18 of the Philadelphia Doctorate Course as he speaks of his good friend Aleister Crowley. This was certainly not true as they never met.

    Best account of this is in Bare Faced Messiah. This is really the official biography of Hubbard's life. It was written by Journalist Russell Miller with evidence and testimony from Gerry Armstrong (and others). Gerry Armstrong was given the green light by Hubbard to write the biography but was expelled from Scientology for arguing a case for telling the truth. Although considerable harassment of Russell Miller occured, they never sued him for defamation. This indicates it was a good indication of the truth. It borrows heavily from A Piece of Blue Sky.
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  14. Anonymous Member

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  15. Sponge Member

    ^anon, all your links are broke.
    Take out the preceding http ://[url ] and the trailing [/URL ]
  16. Anonymous Member

    Why is this even a media thread? OP brought zero news media, old or new.
  17. Anonymous Member

    old media it is:
    The Sunday Times 5 October 1969
    The odd beginning of Ron Hubbard's career
    above: "In 1946 Aleister Crowley (left), the sorcerer and mystic whose dabblings in black magic earned him the title The Wickedest Man in the World, found a new disciple and welcomed him to one of his occult communities in California. The extraordinary activities of this new and enthusiastic disciple are described in a vast collection of papers owned by a former admirer of Crowley which we have examined. The man in question is Lafayette Ron Hubbard (right), head of the now notorius Church of Scientology."
    JOHN WHITESIDE Parsons, a brilliant rocket fuel scientist, joined the American branch of Crowley's cult in 1939. He struck up earnest correspondence with "The Beast 666," as Crowley was known by his followers, and soon became his outstanding protégé in the United States. By January, 1946, Parsons was impatient to break new frontiers in the occult world. He decided to take the spirit of Babalon, the "whore of Babylon," and invest it in a human being.
    But to carry out this intricate mission Parsons needed a female sexual partner to create his child in the astral (spiritual) world. If this part of the fixture went successfully Parsons would be able to call down the spiritual baby and direct it to a human womb. When born, this child would incarnate the forces of Babalon. During his magical preparations for this incarnation Parsons found himself overwhelmed with assistance from a young novitiate named Ron Hubbard.
    Parsons write to Crowley at the beginning of 1946. "He (Hubbard) is a gentleman, red hair, green eyes, honest and intelligent and we have become great friends. Although he has no formal training in magic he has an extraordinary amount of experience and understanding in the field. Ron appears to have some sort of highly developed astral vision. He describes his angel as a beautiful winged woman with red hair whom he calls the Empress and who has guided him through his life and saved him many times." He concluded almost ecstatically, "He is in complete accord with our own principles. I have found a staunch companion and comrade in Ron."
    But within two months the bonds of friendship were under some strain: Ron claimed Parsons girlfriend, Betty. With admirable restraint Parsons wrote to Crowley, "She has transferred her sexual affection to Ron. I cared for her rather deeply but I have no desire to control her emotions." As if to cement their loyalties Parsons, Hubbard and Betty decided to pool their finances and form a business partnership.
    Meanwhile preparations for the mystical mission were well under way. From January 4 to 15, 1946, Parsons and Hubbard engaged in a nightly ritual of incantation, talisman-waving and other black magic faithfully described in Parsons diary as Conjuration of Air, Invocation of Wand and Consecration of Air Dagger. With a Prokofiev violin concerto blaring away the two of them pleaded with the spirits for "an elemental mate" -- a girl willing to go through sexual rites to incarnate Babalon in the spirit world.
    Parson mentions that windstorms occurred on a couple of nights and one night the power supply failed. But nothing seriously responsive until January 14, when Ron was struck on the right shoulder and had a candle knocked out of his hand. "He called me," Parsons wrote, "and we observed a brownish yellow light about seven feet high. I brandished a magical sword and it disappeared. Ron's right arm was paralyzed for the rest of the night.
    The following night was even more portentious. Hubbard apparently saw a vision of one of Parsons' enemies. Parsons wrote, "He attacked the figure and pinned it to the door with four big throwing knives with which he is expert." For four days Parsons and Hubbard were in a state of tension. Then, on January 18, Parsons turned to Ron and said, "It is done." He added, "I returned home and found a young woman answering the requirements waiting for me."
    The incarnation ritual set out in Parsons' manuscript, The Book of Babalon, is difficult reading for the unconfirmed spiritualist. Broadly interpreted, Parsons and Hubbard constructed an altar and Hubbard acted as high priest during a series of ceremonies in which Parsons and the girl shared sex. The owner of the documents, who is an expert on Crowley's magic, says that Parsons at this stage was completely under Hubbard's domination. How else can one explain Hubbard's role as High priest in the rites after only a few weeks in the trade?
    For the first of the birth ceremonies which began on March 1 Hubbard wore white and carried a lamp while Parsons
    above: PARSONS, the AntiChrist
    was cloaked in a black, hooded garment carrying a cup and dagger. At Hubbard's suggestion they played Rachmaninoff's Isle of the dead as background music.
    Parsons account of the start of the birth ritual is as follows: "The Scribe (Hubbard) said, 'The year of babalon is 4063. She is the flame of life, power of darkness, she destroys with a glance, she may take thy soul. She feeds upon the death of mean. beautiful -- horrible.' The scribe, now pale and sweating rested awhile, then continued." There are two possible reasons why Hubbard showed anxiety at this stage of the ceremony, the owner of the papers says. He was either deeply moved by the spiritual depth of the ceremony or he couldnt think what to say next.
    Hubbard further instructed Parsons: "display thyself to our lady; dedicate thy organs to her; display thy mind to her; dedicate thy soul to her, for she shall sbsorb thee. Retire from human contact until noon tommarro. Speak not of this ritual. Discuss nothing of it. Consult no book but thine own mind. Thou art a god. Behave at this alter as one before another."
    On the third day the ritual began four hours before dawn. Ron tells his companion, "lay out a white sheet. Place upon it blood of birth. Envision her approaching thee. Think upon the lewd, lascivious things thou coulds't do. All is good to Babalon. All. Preserve the material basis. Thus lust is hers, the passion yours. Consider thou the Beast raping." These invocations along with other passages in the ritual indicates that Parsons had collected specimens of his own sperm and the girls menstrual fluid.
    The climax of the ceremony occurred the following day with Ron at he altar working his two subjects into a sexual frenzy. Over Rachmaninoff he intoned such gems as:
    Her mouth is red and her breasts are fair and her loins are full of fire,

    And her lust is strong as a man is strong in the heat of her desire.

    An exalted Parsons wrote the next day, "Babalon is incarnate upon the earth today awaiting the proper hour of her manifestation. And in that day my work will be accomplished and I shall be blown away upon the breath of the father even as it is prophecied." (In fact, Parsons was "blown away" in a rocket experiment laboratory in Pasadena in 1952.)
    Unable to contain his joy, Parsons decided to tell Crowley what had happened. On March 6 he wrote, "I can hardly tell you or decide ho much to write I am under command of extreme secrecy. I have had the most important, devastating experience of my life." Crowley was dumbfounded by the news of the incarnation ceremony. He wrote back, "You have me completely puzzled by your remarks. I thought I had the most morbid imagination but it seems I have not. I cannot form the slightest idea what you can possibly mean>"
    With a distinct note of concern he dashed off a letter on the same day to the head of his American cult saying, "Apparently Parsons or Hubbard or somebody is producing a Moonchild. I get fairly frantic when I contemplate the idiocy of these louts." (This acid rebuke comes from a man whose activities were once summed up by a judge like this: "I have never heard such dreadful, horrible, blasphemous and abominable stuff as that which has been produced by the man who describes himself as the greatest living poet.")
    By May that same year Crowley was not only concerned about Parsons spiritual well-being. There was a smaller matter of certain moneys. When the trio formed their business enterprise, Parsons is believed to have put in 17,000 dollars, Hubbard about 1,000 dollars, and Betty nothing. Using about 10,000 dollars of he money, Hubbard and his newly acquired girlfriend, Betty, bought a yacht. A report to the head of the American branch by another cult member says, "Ron and Betty have their boat at Miami, Florida, and are living the life of Riley, while Brother John (Parsons) is living at rock bottom and I mean rock bottom.
    In a more sinister way, the report added: "Let is consider this matter of the magical child which Jack Parsons is supposed to turn loose on the world in nine months (now seven). Ron, the Seer, was the guy who laid down the main ideas, technic (sic), etc., of said operation."
    On reading Parson's accounts of the ceremony and the reports from branch headquarters in America, Crowley cabled his U S office on May 22: "Suspect Ron playing confidence trick -- Jack Parsons weak fool -- obvious victim prowling swindlers." In a letter a few days later he said, "It seems to me on the information of our brethren in California that Parsons has got an illumination in which he lost all his personal independence. From our brother's account, he has given away both his girl and his money . Apparently it is the ordinary confidence trick."
  18. Anonymous Member

    A much-chastened Parsons wrote to Crowley on July 5, "Here I am in Miami pursuing the children of my folly. I have them well tied up. They cannot move without going to jail. However, I am afraid that most of the money has already been spent. I will be lucky to salvage 3,000 to 5,000 dollars." Just how Parsons managed to capture the errant lovers is in keeping with the other extraordinary chapters of this story. "Hubbard attempted to escapeme," Parsons wrote, "by sailing at 5 p.m. and performed a full invocation to the Bartzabel within the circle at 8 p.m. (a curse). At the same time, however, his ship was struck by a sudden squall off the coast which ripped off his sails and forced him back to port where I took the boat in custody."
    Parsons recovered financially and possibly as a backlash to his experience with Hubbard, he took the Oath of the AntiChrist in 1948 and changed his name to Belarion Armiluss Al Dajjal AntiChrist. In his scientology publications Hubbard says of the period, "Crippled and blinded at the end of the war I resumed studies of philosophy and by my discoveries recovered so fully that I was reclassified in 1949 for full combat duty."
    Hubbard claims that more than two dozen thinkers, prophets and psychologists influenced scientology (which he launched in 1951); everyone from Plato, Jesus of Nazareth to Sigmund Freud whom he says he studied under in Vienna. The record can now be righted with the inclusion of Aleister Crowley, the Beast, 666.
    Alexander Mitchell
  19. I enjoyed reading this:


    • Hardcover: 229 pages
    • Publisher: FERAL HOUSE; illustrated edition (Oct 1 1999)
    • Language: English
    • ISBN-10: 0922915563
    • ISBN-13: 978-0922915569
    • Product Dimensions: 21.8 x 14.5 x 2.3 cm
    The text is lots about Parsons, and about Hubbard? Not so much, only what is covered above, ITT.

    I really liked the Fulminate of Mercury part. KABOOOM!!!
  20. Miranda Member

    Feral House! LOL
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  21. BUMP why Millie?
  22. Anonymous Member

    The sound of one hand masturbating onto a piece of parchment!
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  23. DeathHamster Member

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  24. Anonymous Member

    Presumably 'sexual magick' means either mutual masturbation, blowjobs or bumsecs?
  25. Anonymous Member

    Only if you are VIII or XI degree OTO and male. Tantra is done the traditional way in the Xth degree. The thought of Hubbard being sodomized by Parsons as he was the recorder (read 'bottom' or supposedly receptive partner) in that particular rite tickles the fuck outta me.

    "Chemical Wedding" is an interesting movie that deals with this sort of thing....;)
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  26. Sex Magic - isn't that about consciously rising above the intent to satisfy oneself and, rather, offering the subjective enjoyment of orgasm achieved by indulging in fantasy sex to a higher aim . . . thus having an excuse to to avoid the implications of actually wanting to experience that which one might have viewed as peverse? Something like that.
  27. The Wrong Guy Member

    Occultist father of rocketry 'written out' of NASA's history | Wired UK

    By Olivia Solon, April 23, 2014

    Jack Parsons was a founding member of NASA's Jet Propulsion Lab, with some crediting him as being one of the "fathers of rocketry" and others joking that JPL was actually Jack Parsons' Laboratory, but you won't find much about him on NASA's websites. Parsons' legacy as an engineer and chemist has been somewhat overshadowed by his interest in the occult and, and has led to what some critics describe as a rewriting of the history books.

    "He's lived in the footnotes since his death. He's a forgotten figure," says biographer George Pendle, author of Strange Angel: The Otherworldly Life of Rocket Scientist John Whiteside Parson (Jack's full name).

    Pendle did an "archeological dig" into Parsons' life after finding a mention of him in a science book. "The more I dug, the more bizarre and extreme the story seemed."

    In short: Parsons played a critical role in the formation of rocket science and was instrumental in building the rockets that were eventually used in the Space Race. However, he also believed in magic, was involved in the early stages of Scientology and had an extremely colourful sex life. For that reason, Pendle speculates, Parsons' was a figure who didn't fit into the mould of the Industrial Complex. "Wernher von Braun -- a former Nazi -- was much a much easier fit than Parsons," says Pendle. "A lot of people would be shocked to find out that the space programme was founded by a man who held orgies in his Pasadena mansion."

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  28. RightOn Member

    hate to see any cred for that loon
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  29. For some people, the ''Space Race'' was more or less over when Neil Armstrong planted his foot on the moon and lived to tell about it. Sorry, no solid fuel rockets were instrumental in that race. It was all liquid fuel that made the difference for a variety of reasons. To go into those reasons would be just a little too nerdy for me, so I won't. Jack Parsons was no Robert Goddard or von Braun. In comparison, Jack Parsons made firecrackers, solid fuel fourth of July rockets. He may have had a role but, ''critical''? He seems over rated. He must have had fun though.

    Wernher von Braun, now there was a guy. He actually made liquid fuel rockets that worked and worked well. Yes, even better than a young L. Ron Hubbard. Without him, there would have been no US Space Program. Give credit where it is due. The US wanted von Braun because here was a guy who's V-2 rockets bombed London and they wanted a V-2 all of their own. I would have liked to have seen Jack Parsons solid fuel rockets power the Mercury, Gemini, or Apollo flights. The fact that solid fuel boosters were used in the Space Shuttle program should not mean Jack Parsons was responsible either for that. Parsons fans are just reaching and Parsons fans are just a subset of Crowley fans. It's more about cool stuff like Crowley and Magick than it is about going to the moon.
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  30. Anonymous Member

    However, Jaycee, to be fair, Parsons and Hubbard did make a moon child bat, or at least, tried to.

    Beefheart UK - A - Moonchild.jpg

    Beefheart - Moonchild.jpg
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  31. The Wrong Guy Member

    Tony Ortega wrote this today:

    And finally, we were excited to hear the news yesterday that Ridley Scott will be producing a miniseries for AMC based on George Pendle’s book Strange Angel about rocket scientist and occult hobbyist Jack Parsons.

    We can only hope that some choice scenes are included which depict Parsons and his good friend L. Ron Hubbard taking part in their 1946 “sex magick” experiments to bring about a “Moonchild.”


    We’d love to hear your casting suggestions. Who should play LRH? Parsons? Sara “Betty” Northrup, the gal who Hubbard stole away from the rocket man?

    Ah, this is going to be fun.

    UPDATE: We sent George Pendle a congratulatory email and asked if he could tell us more about the miniseries. But he says he’s “on the outside looking in” at this point and doesn’t know much about the production. He encouraged us to check in with him later for more details, and we sure will!
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  32. Crowley's words were "I get fairly frantic when I contemplate the idiocy of these louts."

    Crowley regarded Hubbard as a con man and Parsons as a victim of the con.
  33. DeathHamster Member

    Parsons was also Crowley's main American whale, and Hubbard was cutting into his cash flow.
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  34. RightOn Member

    "We’d love to hear your casting suggestions. Who should play LRH? Parsons? Sara “Betty” Northrup, the gal who Hubbard stole away from the rocket man? "

    Katie Holmes or Leah Reminin for Sara Northrup
    Jason Beghe to play Parsons
    Hubbard? John Goodman?
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  35. Random guy Member

    You need a slightly pudgy, thick lipped ginger actor with a talent for for being charming. It will be hard to find.
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  36. RightOn Member

    maybe he can lose weight and die his hair. I think he would be able to do is voice well
  37. Christian Slater might be a good choice for a middle aged Hubbard. The makeup artists might have to ''uglify'' him somewhat and make his face fatter.
  38. The Wrong Guy Member

    How the Claim of Being Old Saved Modern Paganism | Patheos

    By Jason Mankey, February 26, 2015

    Though there are parts of the Pagan umbrella that claim to be genuinely “old” Modern Paganism is essentially that, modern. It was created and recast with several components: some from antiquity, but many more from modern sources. The idea of Witchcraft is an old one, but how it’s practiced today is a new thing. I find it doubtful that any self-identified Witch from 200 years ago was practicing like any of us today. However, Witchcraft’s claim of antiquity kept it from ever falling under the control of one and person, which has helped it to remain fresh, vibrant, and vital.

    Comparing and contrasting religions is often a fool’s game, but I like to do it just the same. When comparing Wicca to other traditions I tend to look at the religions that grew up alongside of it. It’s possible to date the public start of the Wiccan religion to 1954 when Gerald Gardner released The Meaning of Witchcraft. A few months before that a man by the name of L. Ron Hubbard established The Church of Scientology. Yup, I often compare and contrast Wicca with Scientology, and it’s not just because they are the same age.

    Besides their dates of birth Scientology has a lot of parallels with Modern Witchcraft. Hubbard, like Gardner, was a fan of Aleister Crowley. Gardner’s infatuation with Crowley is more well known, most likely because Wiccans aren’t all that embarrassed by Crowley. The modern day Church of Scientology is less comfortable with Crowley and sees no reason to play up Hubbard’s interest in the man*. However Hubbard’s own words are rather telling, at one point Hubbard even refers to Crowley as his “very good friend” though the two men never met face to face:

    “The magical cults of the 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th and 12th centuries in the Middle East were fascinating. The only modern work that has anything to do with them is a trifle wild in spots, but is a fascinating work in itself, and that’s the work of Aleister Crowley – the late Aleister Crowley – my very good friend.”-L. Ron Hubbard, 1952

    Much like the Wiccan tenant of “An it harm none, do what you will” is most likely based on Crowley’s “do what thou wilt,” according to Hubbard’s son L. Ron Junior, Ron senior also looked to Crowley for inspiration in the early days of Scientology:

    “The one super-secret sentence that Scientology is built on is: ‘Do as thou wilt. That is the whole of the law.’ It also comes from the black magic, from Aleister Crowley. It means that you are a law unto yourself, that you are above the law, that you create your own law. You are above any other human considerations.”

    I’m not suggesting that Scientology is Witchcraft’s long lost cousin, it’s certainly not, but like Gardner’s Wicca it was very much a product of its time. But instead of looking to the past for inspiration, Hubbard looked towards the future. His “religion” would use “tech” (like the infamous e-meter) and approach the world through an allegedly scientific lens. Gardner’s Witchcraft went the other way, finding inspiration in the Middle Ages and antiquity. By claiming a historicity for his Witchcraft (something I think he very much believed in) Gardner saved all of us from a more authoritarian present.


    By creating a decentralized structure the adherents of Modern Witchcraft also continued to walk between two worlds. Without institutions, and the control they often provide, Witches were never able to completely insulate themselves from the outside world. It’s one of the reasons many of us communicate so effectively. Contrast this with Scientology’s rather awkward message to the world outside its bubble. It’s forgotten how to speak individuals who aren’t a part of it. (Check out Tony Ortega’s Underground Bunker for some Scientology speak.)

    The full article is here:
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  39. The Wrong Guy Member

    The Occult Sex Magician Who Sent America to Space Is Getting a Television Show

    ‘Strange Angel’ will tell the story of Jack Parsons, the man who invented rocket fuel and spread the gospel of British Occultist Aleister Crowley.


    CBS All Access — the streaming service that also hosts Star Trek: Discovery — will air a series based on Parson’s life called Strange Angel. It’s based on George Pendle’s book by the same title. It’s a biopic we’ve wanted to see happen for years.

    Parsons also pursued a lifelong obsession with the occult, sex, and the intersection of the two. He joined Thelema, the occult movement founded by British occultist Aleister Crowley, and took over the movement's California branch. Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard lived in Parson’s home for a time and slept with his wife. Parsons attempted, repeatedly, to use sex magick to summon various deities to the Earthly plane. All while continuing to work as a rocket scientist.

    Parsons' life is strange and fascinating. He was a devoted scientist who helped push humanity to the stars, but he pursued strange obsessions and died in a home lab explosion at the age of 37.

    Strange Angel begins June 14.

    More at
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