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How To: Build an uber planning site at low cost in under 30 minutes.

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  1. How To: Build an uber planning site at low cost in under 30 minutes.


    NOTE: If you are super paranoid about your anonymity the steps contained in this guide require java script and open you up to a number of attacks that could result in a malicious person obtaining your IP. (If determined enough) These are all public platforms. If you would like to know how to mitigate these issues please refer to: http://forums.whyweprotest.net/235-how/increase-your-anonymity-using-vm-vpn-38295/

    Steps:
    1. Make networks on both Live Communities - Chatroll.com and Ning. Create your own social network for anything.


    2. Make a twitter feed for your locals to follow.

    3. Embed chatroll's client into your ning.

    4. Embed WWP's RSS, Digg, twitter, all manner of information related to Project Chanology and local interests into your ning.

    5. Theme the whole thing.

    6. Invite locals RL and online. Have them use built in platform tools to recruit others.

    7. When you're done send an email with your city and url to directory@whyweprotest.net so you can be included in the Anonymous directory.

    Now you have: A forum, chat client (with the ability to be anonymous), image board (via chatroll), twitter mobile alerts, image repository, video repository, the latest news related to Project Chanology, event calendar, etc.

    All for free, easily replaceable if the admin fails at life, and with little to no effort. No hardware, no donations, little HTML understanding needed, no stress.

    Need an easy way to transfer information and work on projects secretly with a group of people? Try https://www.google.com/accounts/Ser...s.google.com/&ltmpl=homepage&rm=false.

    UPDATES DUE TO POPULAR DEMAND:

    Notes -

    Twitter:
    For those that don't understand how twitter works, if you get an account together with some trusted anons you can have an automated mobile announcement system. Have say, 5-6 trusted users who have access to the account and then have the rest of your local group follow the account. That way no matter who has who's number a twitter update can be sent out to everyone's phone without phone numbers involved. All those who subscribe to the twitter can then receive text messages directly from the source instead of attempting to relay messages back and forth while on the move.

    Twitter Widget:
    Setup can be found at:http://www.widgetbox.com/widget/twidget

    Polls? Need to have a vote?:
    Embed a poll in whatever discussion you're having:http://www.99polls.com/ is a great service to facilitate this.

    TV:
    As for TV, if any of you other cells idle in chat/irc/ning whatever. A good way to create conversation is with sticky content. Take a gander at platforms like www.mogulus.com/. I know this sounds stupid, but simply giving people something to watch, like a little TV widget, on your website while chatting increases the chance someone will hang around.

    Setting up a chat room:

    Chatroll -
    1.Manage network>Features
    2.The drag a text box into your site layout.
    3.Save
    4.Go back to your main page.
    5.Press the edit button on your new text box.
    6.Copy paste the Chatroll widget code.

    Ning -
    Simply add the "Chat" feature in manage network>features

    Ning Notes Feature:
    Adding the notes module gives you a "wiki-like" setup there too.

    Some good streams to embed:
    http://www.mogulus.com/guide/search?count=20&search_tag=anonymous

    Project Chanology related sidebar code:
    Code:
    <a href="http://forums.whyweprotest.net/">
    <img src="http://api.ning.com/files/RZQ5obBnQMX5xaMRTvazi3jTyH*r71xO0E3gJzoVbo*zkP6HWERHSnRY1DlI3xbLPJ3witb2wEtvg0E1kT875omtv5sEzuyB/wwp.gif" alt="Why We Protest, international forum of anonymous" width="207" height="51"  /></a>
    <a href="http://www.scientology-exposed.com">
    <img src="http://api.ning.com/files/RZQ5obBnQMUDAh3SlUTp1hKEtpDOLlULi1cVngHvggJVj-GhudzZgwoZGP-4uoZUxRONHTe7Ww3EwoLFUB-pvJld95AJ*EX7/sex.gif" width="207" height="51" alt="scientology exposed, international forum for anonymous"  /></a>
    <a href="http://forum.exscn.net/">
    <img src="http://api.ning.com/files/RZQ5obBnQMWQvae1B36nW0wDtAubah5DFkSs29AbMkFd6dnk0GRWUPCpPipfCZxiydOWGhBt0dU2jb4YKuFu8YDbQzEZogGh/ex.gif" width="207" height="51" alt="message board for ex scientologists"  /></a>
    <a href="http://xenu.net">
    <img src="http://api.ning.com/files/RZQ5obBnQMWBxi-rQNaSy5Ba3tEe9*IWkBlwyQpn7mBYHxrOBLdijS8jsJeT0ZTt3Wkb98pOYLGGcNcQKLqZA-gKltT7hZK7/xenu.gif" width="207" height="51" alt="xenu.net, operation clambake"  /></a>
    <a href="http://www.whyaretheydead.net">
    <img src="http://api.ning.com/files/RZQ5obBnQMXibpEai2QrNLOJGVvunAsIFHYC-KHxLJyH-vvFsp3h0YdE79fQpaN669-R1qOuR3xnYsu1isOgdt-RCPAsTzfX/dead.gif" width="207" height="51" alt="why are they dead"  /></a>
    <a href="http://888chan.org/">
    <img src="http://api.ning.com/files/RZQ5obBnQMVzU97-9euAqKxRi5B-LGsBzLUuDVUeZunSfLRs2bUzaZ--Sxrwve5TR3K97SFrfIXZExAj2z9zCqSiGDUzmOJa/888.gif" width="207" height="51" alt="888chan, internet 8 machine"  /></a>
    
    Information Tab:
    Don't make your front page one huge propaganda / information shitfest about Project Chanology. You are building a social network, not a wiki. This is about social interaction, not information. Leverage the platforms and use them properly.

    For informing the public and educating new users I'd recommend building an "Information" tab into your ning navigation bar.

    To do this: Go to Manage>tabs>add new tab>create page>title: Information

    then go to the new page you've created and populate it with something similar to:

    Code:
    <center><a href="http://i40.tinypic.com/2ew1tt5.jpg" target=
    "http://anonsf.ning.com/forum/topics/2034710:Topic:11962"></a>
    <a href="http://anonsf.ning.com/forum/topics/2034710:Topic:11962"
    target="_blank"><img src=
    "http://i40.tinypic.com/2ew1tt5.jpg"></a></center>
    <p><a href="http://forums.whyweprotest.net/">Why We Protest
    Forum</a></p>
    <p>The primary hub for Project Chanology, where Anons and others
    from around the world meet and<br>
    communicate.</p>
    <p><a href="www.forum.exscn.net/">ExScientologist Forums</a></p>
    <p>A forum predominantly used by "Old Guard"- people who were
    intent on disassembling the Church of Scientology<br>
    before Anonymous came into the picture.</p>
    <p><a href="http://888chan.org/">888chan.org</a></p>
    <p>One of the few chans that remain friendly to Project Chanology,
    mostly because it was started by and is mostly populated by those
    involved in the project. Due to its nature as a chan, it is
    relatively free of drama and other sources of fail, although it is
    slow at times.</p>
    
    It should end up looking like this:
    2ns8560.png

    Also, setup a thread with recommendations to new users. Here is the one we use:



    Tracking Traffic:
    You can go into your management tab and add http://www.google.com/analytics/ and/or an IP tracking system.

    This has helped me identify what features were popular with my local group and overt attacks.

    I can't stress how important it is to leverage 3rd party social tools. Don't reinvent the wheel just because you can.

    Administration (Note: This is stuff I learned over the years):
    Have one person that holds all the keys. This person should stay neutral and focus on keeping the site running properly at all costs. Preferably, they should keep out of local drama and only weigh-in if it is a cell breaking issue. Have a set of moderators that act as a counsel. They should dictate social direction and represent a broad set of ideals. (moralfags, OG, hatefags, oldfags, newfags)

    If an administrator loses his shit, abandon ship and rebuild. if a moderator loses their shit, remove them immediately and replace them with someone that represents their interests. Rinse repeat until you've got a well oiled machine.

    I think it's important that we focus on society building in 09. We've talked so much about protest tactics, information, Scientology, when we forget there needs to be culture and some form of local sub culture for prosperity. You've gotta give people more than just another protest group if we're ever going to amount to anything but a bunch of internet savvy weirdos with shitty signs in front of a Scientology building.

    I'd advocate giving your users information on other topics to drive community interaction.

    Example:
    We have a web tv channel feed that sits right next to our chat box. Plenty of nights we all just sit and watching it, discussing things unrelated to Project Chanology. We also have RSS feeds from tech related news, which fosters communication on topics non-Chanology related.

    After a year, talking purely about Project Chanology has become pretty boring. Survival, growth of our local communities will rely upon building social groups, going beyond just "protesting".

    Stagnation leads to lack of interest. Find ways to mitigate it.

    What it will look like if you sweaty pile of garden gnomes don't suck at this:
    View attachment 1zbch0y.png


    MORE INFO:

    1. Drag the RSS tool onto your website.
    2. Enter the following URL:http://forums.whyweprotest.net/15-media/
    3. Put on your stunna shades and listen to some hyphy.

  2. Scythe Member

    re: How To: Build an uber planning site at low cost in under 30 minutes.

    After reading your thread back in May about Ning and social networks, the anons in quebec decided to try it. Well, let me just say that it works. Back then we were what, 4 or 5 anons?

    Now, for a small isolated french city up north, we have more than 80 members on the Ning and an average of 1500-2000 unique visitors a month and 8 000-10 000 page views. Some of these visitors are normal folks visiting the website after a raid or a protest, but also journalists, ministers, schools, government people, law enforcement (RCMP) etc according the google analytics. Your Ning becomes a decentralized website for planning, but also an information hub where normal people can get quick information about the cult after a raid or a protest.

    If people see how the COS affects their life locally, they are more likely to join the fight. I'm not saying that wikis or old school phpbb forums can't do that, but for people who are not computer savvy and do not spent their entire day on the internet, it is easier for them with a Ning. They see and understand faster how effective anonymous is and how we get shits done.

    I don't think we would have get the press coverage we got so far without the Ning. I've spoke to a few journalists and each time they tell me how refreshing and innovative the website is. Another example, In October we had an interview with a satellite radio station about the cult, and after taking a look at our website they were inspired and decided to change their old forum/facebook group for a Ning too. I think you know you are doing it right when the press is copying you.

    edit: Also if you google ''scientologie'' on google.ca in french, you get on the first page a link to a newspaper article about our Ning when we launched it back in July.
  3. da5id Administrator

    re: How To: Build an uber planning site at low cost in under 30 minutes.

    excellent write up, good info for local cells to use!
  4. twelve Member

    re: How To: Build an uber planning site at low cost in under 30 minutes.

    /me approves

    I'll have to give this a shot. My city's largely died out for anon shit; this'll be a worthwhile attempt at revivifying the lulz there.
  5. re: How To: Build an uber planning site at low cost in under 30 minutes.

    I've been watching you guys and Hamburg, same results. Good to hear. Check out chatroll, they recently launched publicly and meshing it with ning has been really successful. (you can add their client as a widget) it adds an image board element and allows for anonymous posting. One of the biggest issues I've seen with ning is identity. Giving people an outlet to speak without handles has been a really positive move. (without having to resort to IRC, which had built in risks, especially if the sever is run by parties that aren't local or accountable.)

    Also, I'd advocate giving your users information on other topics to drive community interaction.

    Example:
    We have a web tv channel feed that sits right next to our chat box. Plenty of nights we all just sit and watching it, discussing things unrelated to Project Chanology. We also have RSS feeds from tech related news, which fosters communication on topics non-Chanology related.

    After a year, talking purely about Project Chanology has become pretty boring. Survival, growth of our local communities will rely upon building social groups, going beyond just "protesting".

    Stagnation leads to lack of interest. Find ways to mitigate it.
  6. Scythe Member

    re: How To: Build an uber planning site at low cost in under 30 minutes.

    You are bringing very good points, there is definitely some upgrade to do to improve community interaction. The anonymous posting part is what we have been trying to add for a long time. I'll definitely take a look at the chatroll, thanks.
  7. re: How To: Build an uber planning site at low cost in under 30 minutes.

    Good to see you're still around 12. Even if it isn't purely Project Chanology related get your local tards involved. Who knows, maybe it will result in a local group you can grab a beer with once in a while with similar interests. That isn't a half bad deal if you ask me.

    I think it's important that we focus on society building in 09. We've talked so much about protest tactics, information, Scientology, when we forget there needs to be culture and some form of local sub culture for prosperity. You've gotta give people more than just another protest group if we're ever going to amount to anything but a bunch of internet savvy weirdos with shitty signs in front of a Scientology building.
  8. twelve Member

    re: How To: Build an uber planning site at low cost in under 30 minutes.

    Yup. Mostly been hiding in 888chan and irc, but I'm still hanging around.

    And this is wise.
  9. moarxenu Member

    re: How To: Build an uber planning site at low cost in under 30 minutes.

    This is so good it needs to be stickied.

    Great to hear about Quebec's success with ning. What SF has done with the ning is amazing. A real community has been created that is fun to raid with and also hang out with in the chatroom.

    I agree with mega's analysis that 09 needs to focus on local community building for all the reasons he mentioned. At the same time, I think we need to do moar projects in our locales than just raiding. We need to build relationships with the kind of ppl coming to the Quebec ning: journalists, clergy, cops, union leaders - all the kinds of ppl who create opinion locally.
  10. anon0004 Member

    re: How To: Build an uber planning site at low cost in under 30 minutes.

    Oh Hai ~

    Exactly the same story from Hamburg, read your post, recognized extremly good points, did it ourselves.

    We Also started with 3 or 4, and grew to nearly 100 by nao on the ning.

    For us, Megaphonebitch´s post was a key to successful Operation planning and coordination since may.
    We coordinated lots of the "this is scientology" conference thing Anon-Operation thing in there, as well as Valkyrie.

    It got us through DDos on Enturbulation, the loss of Enturb, all the Downtimes of the major hubs.
    We were on our own but still fully operational and coordinate all actions, Operation 300, shortly after a WWP blackout, would not have been possible without it.

    Reporters use it, and it´s been printed in the media here and there....

    Its features allow to filter the wast information on WWP down to the bit that is crucial to your cell and needs to be communicated, and also gives you a great multimedia representation base.

    Munich Anonymous also has a ning, also quite successful.

    I have not checked chatroll yet, but I am sure we will do.

    Maybe we can gather the best and practical widgets, and code snippets here, to enable new cells to build up a full featured ning in no time.

    I can recommend this for a sidebar textfield:

    [IMG]

    Code:
    <a href="http://forums.whyweprotest.net/">
    <img src="http://api.ning.com/files/RZQ5obBnQMX5xaMRTvazi3jTyH*r71xO0E3gJzoVbo*zkP6HWERHSnRY1DlI3xbLPJ3witb2wEtvg0E1kT875omtv5sEzuyB/wwp.gif" alt="Why We Protest, international forum of anonymous" width="207" height="51"  /></a>
    <a href="http://www.scientology-exposed.com">
    <img src="http://api.ning.com/files/RZQ5obBnQMUDAh3SlUTp1hKEtpDOLlULi1cVngHvggJVj-GhudzZgwoZGP-4uoZUxRONHTe7Ww3EwoLFUB-pvJld95AJ*EX7/sex.gif" width="207" height="51" alt="scientology exposed, international forum for anonymous"  /></a>
    <a href="http://forum.exscn.net/">
    <img src="http://api.ning.com/files/RZQ5obBnQMWQvae1B36nW0wDtAubah5DFkSs29AbMkFd6dnk0GRWUPCpPipfCZxiydOWGhBt0dU2jb4YKuFu8YDbQzEZogGh/ex.gif" width="207" height="51" alt="message board for ex scientologists"  /></a>
    <a href="http://xenu.net">
    <img src="http://api.ning.com/files/RZQ5obBnQMWBxi-rQNaSy5Ba3tEe9*IWkBlwyQpn7mBYHxrOBLdijS8jsJeT0ZTt3Wkb98pOYLGGcNcQKLqZA-gKltT7hZK7/xenu.gif" width="207" height="51" alt="xenu.net, operation clambake"  /></a>
    <a href="http://www.whyaretheydead.net">
    <img src="http://api.ning.com/files/RZQ5obBnQMXibpEai2QrNLOJGVvunAsIFHYC-KHxLJyH-vvFsp3h0YdE79fQpaN669-R1qOuR3xnYsu1isOgdt-RCPAsTzfX/dead.gif" width="207" height="51" alt="why are they dead"  /></a>
    <a href="http://888chan.org/">
    <img src="http://api.ning.com/files/RZQ5obBnQMVzU97-9euAqKxRi5B-LGsBzLUuDVUeZunSfLRs2bUzaZ--Sxrwve5TR3K97SFrfIXZExAj2z9zCqSiGDUzmOJa/888.gif" width="207" height="51" alt="888chan, internet 8 machine"  /></a>
    <a href="http://888chan.org/ide/"><img src="http://api.ning.com/files/DUdEUWmDMk8r7NnQYmtWVK3Z-A1oJBG*6FE01JLAEOsP68GJRDq7jW7x6xZawLqKSp9Iw95Uk6hw3gJ3tDjuxuYzHm7wv3A8/ide.gif" alt="German Insurgency /ide/" width="207" height="51"  /></a>
    
    
  11. re: How To: Build an uber planning site at low cost in under 30 minutes.

    Another note -

    Twitter:
    For those that don't understand how twitter works, if you get an account together with some trusted anons you can have an automated mobile announcement system. Have say, 5-6 trusted users who have access to the account and then have the rest of your local group follow the account. That way no matter who has who's number a twitter update can be sent out to everyone's phone without phone numbers involved. All those who subscribe to the twitter can then receive text messages directly from the source instead of attempting to relay messages back and forth while on the move.

    TV:
    As for TV, if any of you other cells idle in chat/irc/ning whatever. A good way to create conversation is with sticky content. Take a gander at platforms like Mogulus Live Broadcast - Watch Free Live Video and Chat - Live Stream On Your Website. I know this sounds stupid, but simply giving people something to watch, like a little TV widget, on your website while chatting increases the chance someone will hang around.

    Administration (Note: This is stuff I learned over the years):
    Have one person that holds all the keys. This person should stay neutral and focus on keeping the site running properly at all costs. Preferably, they should keep out of local drama and only weigh-in if it is a cell breaking issue. Have a set of moderators that act as a counsel. They should dictate social direction and represent a broad set of ideals. (moralfags, OG, hatefags, oldfags, newfags)

    If an administrator loses his shit, abandon ship and rebuild. if a moderator loses their shit, remove them immediately and replace them with someone that represents their interests. Rinse repeat until you've got a well oiled machine.
  12. re: How To: Build an uber planning site at low cost in under 30 minutes.

    Also, if you want community consensus easily?

    Embed a poll in whatever discussion you're having: Free online web polls generator is a great service to facilitate this.

    I can't stress how important it is to leverage 3rd party social tools. Don't reinvent the wheel just because you can.
  13. star eht Member

    re: How To: Build an uber planning site at low cost in under 30 minutes.

    I like it. bump
  14. FUCK Member

    re: How To: Build an uber planning site at low cost in under 30 minutes.

    like it. bump for epic win.
  15. anonymusicz Member

    re: How To: Build an uber planning site at low cost in under 30 minutes.

    Bumped.
  16. arturoui Member

    re: How To: Build an uber planning site at low cost in under 30 minutes.

    Censor, can you read this? ^^

    Es grüßt
    Herr Ui
  17. moarxenu Member

    re: How To: Build an uber planning site at low cost in under 30 minutes.

    STICKY NAO!!!!11
  18. FYIANON Member

    re: How To: Build an uber planning site at low cost in under 30 minutes.

    Anyone know how to put a chat box into a closed group on ning? This newbie fails :(
  19. re: How To: Build an uber planning site at low cost in under 30 minutes.

    with chatroll or nings proprietary chat client?

    Chatroll -
    1.Manage network>Features
    2.The drag a text box into your site layout.
    3.Save
    4.Go back to your main page.
    5.Press the edit button on your new text box.
    6.Copy paste the Chatroll widget code.

    Done.

    Ning -
    Simply add the "Chat" feature in manage network>features
  20. FYIANON Member

    re: How To: Build an uber planning site at low cost in under 30 minutes.




    Thank You! Chatroll was what we needed.
  21. anonymusicz Member

    re: How To: Build an uber planning site at low cost in under 30 minutes.

    Also, adding the notes module gives you a "wiki-like" setup there too. Only Admins can add to it, but I'm sure there's a work around.

    Some good streams to embed:
    Search Results for anonymous
  22. Scythe Member

    re: How To: Build an uber planning site at low cost in under 30 minutes.

    we updated the Ning along with a chatroll and WWP/Digg feeds, looks much better.

    AnonQC

    What do you guys are using for the WebTV? Didn't find anything decent on google so far.
  23. anonymusicz Member

    re: How To: Build an uber planning site at low cost in under 30 minutes.

    Mogulus, there's even a XenuTV channel, along with an AnonTV (Not chanology)
  24. Anon752 Member

    re: How To: Build an uber planning site at low cost in under 30 minutes.

    There is an amazing amount of good information in this thread.

    Megaphonebitch: Could you update the first post with all of this new information? Things like the polls, and of course the nice code for the sidebar of links that was provided. Would be great to have it all up front.
  25. Namenlos Member

    re: How To: Build an uber planning site at low cost in under 30 minutes.

    Do you have to have a premium account to put a twitter feed on Ning?
  26. re: How To: Build an uber planning site at low cost in under 30 minutes.

    No, just put a twitter widget in an empty text box. Example:

    Code:
    <object classid="clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000" codebase="http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=9,0,0,0" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="180px" height="213px" id="InsertWidget_c6476d2c-b9c3-482e-b80a-a0df8b5c5678" align="middle"><param name="movie" value="http://widgetserver.com/syndication/flash/wrapper/InsertWidget.swf" ></param>
    <param name="quality" value="high" ></param>
    <param name="wmode" value="transparent" ></param>
    <param name="menu" value="false" ></param>
    <param name="flashvars" value="r=2&amp;appId=c6476d2c-b9c3-482e-b80a-a0df8b5c5678" ></param>
    <param name="allowScriptAccess" value="sameDomain" ></param>
    <embed src="http://widgetserver.com/syndication/flash/wrapper/InsertWidget.swf" name="InsertWidget_c6476d2c-b9c3-482e-b80a-a0df8b5c5678" width="180px" height="213px" quality="high" menu="false" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" align="middle" allowscriptaccess="sameDomain" flashvars="r=2&amp;appId=c6476d2c-b9c3-482e-b80a-a0df8b5c5678" ></embed></object>
    widget setup can be found at: http://www.widgetbox.com/widget/twidget
  27. re: How To: Build an uber planning site at low cost in under 30 minutes.

    I would post our video feed... but I don't want to bring chanology aids to their project or IRC channel. If you want to find a real good channel, they are out there. visit sf if you want to know what we are watching.
  28. re: How To: Build an uber planning site at low cost in under 30 minutes.

    Also, Id recommend setting up a series of questions for all new users.

    here's the ones we use:

  29. moarxenu Member

    re: How To: Build an uber planning site at low cost in under 30 minutes.

    Thanks for the update and moar awesome. Glad this was stickied.
  30. re: How To: Build an uber planning site at low cost in under 30 minutes.

    Oh and -

    Tracking Traffic:
    You can go into your management tab and add Google Analytics and/or an IP tracking system.

    This has helped me identify what features were popular with my local group and overt attacks.
  31. ChanPortal Member

    re: How To: Build an uber planning site at low cost in under 30 minutes.

    When you're done send an email with your city and url to directory@whyweprotest.net so you can be included in the Anonymous directory.
  32. re: How To: Build an uber planning site at low cost in under 30 minutes.

    op updated.
  33. Namenlos Member

    re: How To: Build an uber planning site at low cost in under 30 minutes.

    megaphonebitch, I can't see which bit of the code I need to edit to make it a different twitter feed...
  34. anmoyunos Member

    re: How To: Build an uber planning site at low cost in under 30 minutes.

    Widgetbox › Twitter Widget

    Change the name in the Twitter Username field and you're good to go.
  35. anonymous612 Member

    re: How To: Build an uber planning site at low cost in under 30 minutes.

    fyi, Clearwaterfags think you and your ideas are the shit, thank you very much. =O
    Clearwater Anonymous
  36. anon345 Member

    re: How To: Build an uber planning site at low cost in under 30 minutes.

    I like this thread a lot...I think that the site you've created looks excellent. So good that I'm probably gonna use your tips for some work stuff I'm involved with...but...

    ...my one concern is that every single person who uses a site set up in this manner can be IPfagged, as you have to use JavaScript.

    This may not seem like that much of an issue - and it may never become one - but most information is available if you've got enough money.

    If you doubt this, speak to anyone in business who's ever used a private investigator for any length of time, and they'll tell you that pretty much all "limited access" information is available for a price.

    Not every PI can get every single thing himself - not directly at least - but through outsourcing to one another, there's a collective network that makes almost everything up for grabs if you've got the cash, and that's one thing Co$ isn't short of.

    It's by no means inconceivable that Co$ would spend the necessary money to have the IP addresses of perhaps 1000 of the most active "Anons" turned into real-world addresses.

    Say a PI was charging $600 a pop for this info (my guess is it'd actually be much less, but whatever)...the question you have to ask yourself is "would Co$ pay $600,000 for what would likely end up as 90% of the real addresses of 1000 people involved with something it considers to be amongst it's biggest enemies?" [Less than the cost of just two of it's members' "bridges."]

    I think they would, and I think it's important for people to use TOR (with all the necessary's disabled) unless they're taking equivalent security measures (connecting through a throwaway mobile or an internet cafe, or publicly accessible Wi-Fi etc.)

    This may never happen, but it's very likely that at some point they'll try and carry out an "Op" that'll namefag a large number of "Anons."

    I'm not wanting to piss on ANYONE'S cornflakes, I just wanna say "buyer bewarned." Our anonymity isn't essential, but it is a major asset nonetheless.
  37. anonymous612 Member

    re: How To: Build an uber planning site at low cost in under 30 minutes.

    This is why the nonnamefagged should be using TOR /anyway/, regardless of if the site is a ning.
  38. anon345 Member

    re: How To: Build an uber planning site at low cost in under 30 minutes.

    ^^^To use a site setup in this manner requires Javascript.

    TOR + Javascript =/= anonymity.
  39. re: How To: Build an uber planning site at low cost in under 30 minutes.

    Yeah so use a proxy.

    Any website that allows users to post images of any kind is a risk, or allows any form of embedding, Including WWP. An image can become a vehicle to obtain IP's very easily depending upon how it is hosted, not just java script. And yes, the ning platform is a huge risk. it allows users to post all kinds of embedded information... hence, why it is so modular, why it is so flexible. Sadly, with IP's you can do very little. You need a name, or information to be associated with it.

    If a person is good enough to track down your personal info via a platform like ning or chatroll... you are already fucked. There isn't much you can do to stop them.


    1. Ning is pro freedom of speech. I wont go into details, but you have no need to worry about them.

    2. Chatroll is privately owned, funded, and has a very dedicated small team. It's hard to even proxy into. key point: everything is private about the company. They are appreciative of the business we give them. it adds value to their net worth. The metrics, the data they record from us increases the value of their company. They wouldn't risk that on selling some IPs, you using the platform is far more valuable.

    3. I'd call WWP more of a risk, as enturbs database is freely available. You have a better chance of WWP leaking data about you then a bunch of legitimate business's that have to operate within industry best ethics. They have money riding on it.

    Long story short: If you're that paranoid, you are most likely already compromised by your standards of security by hanging out here.

    edit: Also, you are a paranoid freak. All these platforms are public. If you want to do something private, don't do it on the internet. Assume nothing is private on the internet. Private platforms are what you have to worry about. Small time shmucks are the ones that don't get how e commerce works. What? You think anonnet is safe? lol, think again.
  40. Anon752 Member

    re: How To: Build an uber planning site at low cost in under 30 minutes.

    If any of you are that security concerned and arent using a private anonymously purchased VPN from a different country, than your doing it wrong.

    swissvpn, perfect-privacy, and many more...

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