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High Priority! Stone's manager a Scilon?

Discussion in 'GoldBase' started by AnotherMrPink, Jun 30, 2009.

  1. The Shadow Member

    Re: High Priority! Stone's manager a Scilon?

    To be fair, until the retards accept that it's the same guy and start digging (not to mention IDing the driver and linking HIM to CoS too), this thread is probably going to stay derailed
  2. Snake Member

    Re: High Priority! Stone's manager a Scilon?

    I don't see any actual solid proof they are the same person. All I see is speculation and circumstantial evidence in this thread from the same kind of posters who love to shot their woad early at the smallest chance possible that someone or something is Scilon related. There are loud posters on here who love to be discriminatory at the first sign of Scientology in general, whether its going and boycotting a movie that stars a Scilon, or going after a person who even looks like one. These people have a mob mentality and it's why Chanology is slowly becoming OCMB 2.0.
  3. auchraw Member

    Re: High Priority! Stone's manager a Scilon?

    To revert however unfashionably to the original topic of this thread,

    Bu(umlaut)ttner and Buettner are the same name, with different spellings. If moving, say, from Germany to the US, a person could well use different spellings of this surname.

    Maybe a single letter matters in the US; it doesn't matter everywhere in the same way. Mc is the same as Mac, for example. Different spelling, SAME NAME.

    Whether or not they are the same person is another matter. Short of DNA testing how can we ever know?
  4. Zak McKracken Member

    Re: High Priority! Stone's manager a Scilon?

    To repeat what I wrote earlier that doesn't seem relevant to you:

    Where you live, (and possibly where B*ttner The Scilon lives) this may be so.

    But where B*ttner The Stone-Sucker lives, they are usually considered different, though related names. I don't know why this is. UKfags report different conventions in their domain.

    In DE/UK maybe.

    In US, no. Different spelling, different name.

    DNS testing wouldn't even halp. While there is plenty of dox on B*ttner The Stone-Sucker, so far none of it really supports his being the other guy. The amount of dox so far on B*ttner The Scilon are zero. Aside from showing up in course completions, which is a pretty good hint he's a Scilon.

    Without substantial dox on B*ttner The Scilon, it's impossible to connect him with the other B*ttner.

    ITT: nice theory. But the cow is pretty fucking dry.
    plox, post corroborating evidence if they appear.
    Empty udder != evidence.
  5. lothar Member

    Re: High Priority! Stone's manager a Scilon?

    You brainless faggots really are clueless.

    Facts,
    A 2004 EUROPE completion listing for a DRUG RUNDOWN for a GERMAN J Buettner.
    (Are you assholes claiming a career SD GOP party head did a drug rundown in Europe and had them publish his name????)

    Scientology's Published Service Completion Lists
    Jonathan Buttner
    1999 PHOENIX LECTURES COURSE Freewinds 32
    2001 END OF ENDLESS INT REPAIR RUNDOWN Source 135
    2004 ROUTE TO INFINITY COURSE Freewinds 53

    Jonathan Butner
    2000 HUBBARD PROFESSIONAL TR CLAY TABLE DELIVERY COURSE Celebrity 325

    Some guy with a different spelling took some Failwinds courses.

    Stone's staff Buettner worked 15 years at IBM chip fab in Vermont. He then moved to San Diego to head up the county GOP for the next 15 years. Could he have gotten involved in Scientology in San Diego? Maybe.

    But you have zero proof.

    Please close thread until someone from San Diego ex-SCN can claim to know him, or you see him at the Org. Otherwise you all are assholes with batshit speculation based on a name (which means nothing) which isn't even spelled the same.

    And to all you anti-Stone morons... Who cares if he invites Scilons to his house daily. Who cares if his wife is best friends with whoever. What the fuck is the big deal. Other then personal vendettas against his campaign... wtf does it have to do with anything? Ordinance 884 still exists regardless of scientology (which they obviously influenced). His friendships add zero to your argument. Take this shit to OCMB.
  6. TypingChimp Member

    Re: High Priority! Stone's manager a Scilon?

    /r/ friendly mod to dome this fucking thread full of fail. To those who think Stone(d)'s campaign manager is a fucking Scilon and that it is actually relevant if he is, you need moar Jesus in your life. Oh, and go find a fire and die in it.

    [IMG]
  7. Herro Member

    Re: High Priority! Stone's manager a Scilon?

    Just because it bears repeating.
  8. TomVorm Member

    Re: High Priority! Stone's manager a Scilon?

    Stone's political camp has at least one member (his sister) who initiated a hug with a COS official, and Stone's manager was driving a car with a passenger (acting like a COS PI) who was actively videotaping the encounter with a protestor.

    Both actions provide a rationale to look deeper into possible relationships between Stone and COS (beyond his actions initiating and defending Ordinance 884).

    Just because we haven't solved the puzzle by tonight, is no reason to remove what could be possible supporting evidence (as we unravel the myriad of questionable actions, that center on Jeff Stone). A breakthrough could come tomorrow, next week, next month, or next year. You never know when, until it does.

    In the meantime, voters will google and find this thread, when they seek to learn more about their candidate for State Senate (who on first impression, comes off as very sleazy and dishonest, and they might want to know why).

    Another reason to support retaining this information, so that enterprising reporters (like a San Diego County version of Julie Glick), will have this resource ready for them.
  9. Herro Member

    Re: High Priority! Stone's manager a Scilon?

    hardy%20boys%20nancy%20dres.jpg

    Don't worry, we've got the dream team on the case. And by golly, we'll get to the bottom of this caper.
  10. lothar Member

    Re: High Priority! Stone's manager a Scilon?

    [SIZE="5"][COLOR="Purple"]HOLY FUCKING SHIT!! Did you alert Nathan Baca yet???? Fuck, you gonna win a pulitzer!!!![/COLOR][/SIZE]

    derp20tv20guy20copy.jpg
  11. TomVorm Member

    Re: High Priority! Stone's manager a Scilon?

    For a group that is all-volunteer and started less than 18 months ago, investigations and resulting actions by Anonymous have had tremendous impacts against the crimes being committed by the 55 year old COS.

    Just recently, protests against Riverside County's Ordinance 884 have led to the Nathan Baca TV reports, Jeff Stone's activities are being investigated by reporters, there are active lawsuits against labor violations that may cost COS millions of dollars, everyone who read the paper in the St. Petersburg area is aware that upper management of COS is rife with physical abuse, and so on. Stats are crashing, and the end of Scientology as we know it, is now a distinct possibility.

    So, keep looking at Stone's associates: Where there's corruption, we're more likely to find it (and help get it in the minds of voters in his district).
  12. Anonymous Member

    Re: High Priority! Stone's manager a Scilon?



    There is no proof yet. More investigation is needed. Stone's connection to Scientology is a fertile topic that needs much more research.
    Why don't you finish up on the eagle nest "sniper" thread with your "acoustic expert'" and do your giant leaping to conclusions over there.
    You're like a troll with downs syndrome and tourettes.
    Put your sippy cup down, take your helmet off, and have a nap.
    Ask your care provider to help you word clear the phrase "jumping to conclusions"
  13. Smurf Member

    Re: High Priority! Stone's manager a Scilon?

    Wow!! A post that actually makes alot of sense.
  14. AnonymousNow Member

    Re: High Priority! Stone's manager a Scilon?

    Nope, actually you are both wrong. You have both missed the entire purpose of this thread- not to spin a pre made determination, but to investigate the truth. The question of whether stone's campaign manager is a scion is inexorably important information given stone has taken money from the cos and has moved to enact ordinances for its benfit at the exact time the money was taken.

    What's with the straw man arguments? Anon is hear to investigate, which is exactly what is taking place in this thread. Lurk moar.
  15. Smurf Member

    Re: High Priority! Stone's manager a Scilon?

    I didn't miss the purpose of the thread at all. Beating a dead horse long after its been dead and torn to shreds is a useless meandering.
  16. Zak McKracken Member

    Re: High Priority! Stone's manager a Scilon?

    The first few pages of this thread were composed of speculation, and investigation which turned up empty.
    The rest of the thread has been composed of: rehashed speculation, and people arguing over it.
    If the original purpose was something else, that purpose has been failed.
    (unless someone discovers something new and posts it. Seems like a longshot)
  17. Anonymous Member

    Re: High Priority! Stone's manager a Scilon?


    Maybe Shadow will get his "acoustic expert" to sovle this.
  18. Herro Member

    Re: High Priority! Stone's manager a Scilon?

    Lol, I forgot about that.
  19. Re: High Priority! Stone's manager a Scilon?

    if Jonathan Buttner is a scilon
    i don't believe he would of talked or said anything
    but i do see lies in this man's word's
  20. Ann O'Nymous Member

    Re: High Priority! Stone's manager a Scilon?

    Any news about his passenger ?

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