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Heribert Pfaff's 1988 tragedy - Scientology withheld needed anti-seizure therapy

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  1. Heribert Pfaff's 1988 tragedy - Scientology withheld needed anti-seizure therapy

    For historical interest, consider the case of Heribert Pfaff. (This is not directly related to the Travoltas, they reportedly allowed Jett to use anti-seizure medication for several years before discontinuing it.)

    Death of Scientologist Heribert Pfaff
  2. not shure Member

    Re: Heribert Pfaff's 1988 tragedy - Scientology withheld needed anti-seizure therapy

    Fort Homicide
  3. anongurl7 Member

    Seizure? Hitting Head and Dying? Scientology is building a track record...

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT7BpvW56bg&feature=channel_page]YouTube - 9/11, Scientology, and the "purification rundown" PART I[/ame]

    OH SCIENTOLOGY, YOU'RE FUCKED NOW!


    Video is part 1 of 3. Another person was told to get off seizure medication in favor of the Purification Rundown... he hit his head after a seizure, and died.

    edit: seizure story is after 1:00
  4. Re: Seizure? Hitting Head and Dying? Scientology is building a track record...

    merged
  5. anongurl7 Member

    Re: Seizure? Hitting Head and Dying? Scientology is building a track record...

    merge plox
  6. Mutante Member

    Re: Seizure? Hitting Head and Dying? Scientology is building a track record...

    Downloading those videos ...
  7. Re: Seizure? Hitting Head and Dying? Scientology is building a track record...

    when this one goes viral, GAME OVER!
  8. Albion Member

    Just up at Infinite Complacency, the first half of a two-part article
    revisiting the 1988 death of Heribert Pfaff.

    When Heribert Pfaff died of an epileptic seizure in Clearwater Florida,
    he was using Scientology processing to try to wean himself off his
    medication.

    http://infinitecomplacency.blogspot...of-heribert-pfaff-i.html?utm_source=BP_recent

    My thanks to Markus Stuckenbrock and Fred Oxaal for elaborating on their
    previous posts about what happened to Pfaff -- and to German film-makers
    Egmont Koch and Mona Botros for their invaluable help with the article.
    I'll run the second half early next week.

    Jonny Jacobsen
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  9. Anonymous Member

    Bravo, Jonny! <3

    (The provided link is bumpy but the Home page button on your site presents the article).
  10. Albion Member

    Thanks for the heads-up: I'll try to fix it before I crash for the night.

    (Fixed: I think.)
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  11. Anonymous Member

    Fixed on your post and my own.
  12. Sekee Member

    I think that Jett Travolta also fits the pattern of a Scientologist taken off his medication dying of a seizure. Great read though. Thanks!
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  13. The Wrong Guy Member

    Tony Ortega wrote this today:

    Jonny Jacobsen Does It Again: A 1988 Death at Flag You May Not Know About

    Paris-based Brit journalist Jonny Jacobsen has produced another of his murderously rigorous investigations, this one about a 1988 death at the Flag Land Base that has had little attention.

    Jacobsen points out that the epilepsy death of Heribert Pfaff has been discussed at the Ex-Scientology Message Board in the past, but never with this kind of journalistic thoroughness and passionate attention. Pfaff was, like other Scientologists, convinced to give up his medication and try to “handle” his epilepsy only with Scientology processing and vitamins. Tory Christman has told us how much she suffered trying to do the same thing until she finally went back on her meds. But Pfaff did not, and he died at only 31.

    It’s a fascinating piece, and Jonny has labeled it part one — we can’t wait for part two.

    http://tonyortega.org/2013/07/25/cl...rate-david-miscaviges-control-of-scientology/
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  14. Albion Member

    After which the stat-counter for my site traffic rock-slammed -- so many thanks for his support.

    jj
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  15. The Wrong Guy Member

    After Epilepsy Deaths, Scientology Website Still Extols Drug-Free Approach

    By Tony Ortega

    We told you about Jonny Jacobsen’s latest investigative coup — a detailed story about a largely untold 25-year-old death at Scientology’s “Flag Land Base” in Clearwater, Florida.

    Heribert Pfaff was only 31 when he died during an epileptic seizure while under the care of Scientologists, who had convinced him to go off his seizure medicine and trust in handling his disease only with Scientology “auditing” and vitamins.

    Tomorrow, Jacobsen is putting up part two of his story, and he gave us a sneak-peek at a surprising element of it: To this day, Scientology, at its website, is still extolling the benefits of handling epilepsy with auditing rather than medicine.

    “The item that really staggered me when I stumbled across it was the success story at the Scientology site,” Jacobsen tells us. “I couldn’t believe they were claiming multiple cures for epilepsy.”

    Here’s a screenshot of the “success story” at Scientology’s website that Jacobsen is talking about. Below it we have the text.

    Continued with open comments at
    http://tonyortega.org/2013/07/29/after-epilepsy-deaths-scientology-still-extols-drug-free-approach/
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  16. Albion Member

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  17. wolfbane Member

  18. All this shit worked just fine while Ron was alive!


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  19. Dianetics prevented seizures until the early 70's, LRH died in 86. Something else must be the cause of Dianetics failure to prevent seizures after the early 70's!
  20. Anonymous Member

    That's why Miscavige wants to get rid of all the old-timers. One of them must be an SP who's PTS to Elron Hubbard!

    Once the SP is eliminated, Hubbard's miracles will start working again.
  21. Anonymous Member

    Perhaps the OG can say one way or the other, but maybe they used to screen the marks a bit better before Davy. Or simply never had people with such severe conditions before.

    Magoo went in in '69 and they certainly didn't cure her epilepsy.

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