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Discussion in 'Other Countries' started by savehk, Jul 1, 2014.

  1. savehk Member

    Hello All Anonymous around the world.
    We're citizens of Hong Kong.
    We need your help to fight against the government and china.
    Together with the event #opschinareloaded
    Please also give us your hand.


    https://www.facebook.com/events/1426503090964258/
    Please Support the event above. Help Us.
    Moreover, with the fb account of "Save HK" banned, I'd like to add something here.
    Today, the 17th year of the establishment of HKSAR Government, the Chinese Government.
    We, hongkongers, are suffering everyday.
    Full of Chinese Tourists in the city. (Totalled 45 million in 2013, while HK has only 7 million citizens)
    These 'tourists' are affacting our life, turning Hong Kong to be a Shopping City.
    The governments (Beijing and HKSAR) are telling us "We can't survive without them", while they only contributed to our GDP for about 4%.
    The "One Country, Two Systems" promise is ignored by the Beijing Government.
    Details:
    http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...-country-two-systems-policy-hong-kong-special

    http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1534274/beijings-statement-breaches-1984-pact

    Meanwhile, the government and the Legislative Council are not obeying to laws and rules.

    http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...ies-towns-plan-enters-seventh-round-lawmakers

    The policy is passed when Legislators are not on their seats, and their right to speak is deprived.
    The Pro-beijing legislators voted "Yes" to the appropriation of the New Territories plan, which will allow mainland chinese to live in hong kong without visa and enjoy the same right as Hong Kong Residents.
    Also, corruption.
    The Secretary for development, Chan Mo-po, Paul , will receive HK$15 million from the project as his premises there will receive reparation due to the project totalled the amount above.
    A member of the Provisional Legislative council, Ng Leung-sing, who was the president of the finance committee of the above project, were also a director of a sub-company of the Sun Hung Kai Properties Ltd and the chairman of the board of directors of Bank of China (Hong Kong) Trustees Ltd. As both companies are involved in the project, and the project is passed impatiently by his tricks. Possibly there are corruption involved.

    Today, we, hongkongers has stepped out to fight against the government.
    Despite the government tried to stop us, we insisted to go on.
    Today's Situation:
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-28102644

    http://edition.cnn.com/2014/07/01/world/asia/hong-kong-democracy-protests/index.html

    http://www.scmp.com/article/1544215/live-thousands-gather-ahead-july-1-march-barricades-go-central

    Although the organizer says there are 510,000 joined the march. We can observe that, it's much more than 510,000!
    From the Victoria Park to Central,it's about 4.8km. The march started from 3:20pm , and it was just ended at about 11:30pm!
    The police told us that the peak hour were only 98600 people joined the march, and organizer said there were only 510,000. IS THAT POSSIBLE?
    We, HongKongers, fought for our freedom. However, we need your help!

    Tonight , 1 July. The Nextmedia's website is being hacked by China hackers.
    Some info about the company : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Next_Media

    We have to fight against China! For our democracy, our freedom of speech, our life, our future, our next generations, for no censorship on the internet!

    The Hong Kong Police Force are servile followers of the government.
    They helped the government to stop our fight.
    However, We never give up!

    2 YEARS BEFORE, we were protesting against the National Education.
    Anonymous helped us to shutdown the website of National Education Centre.
    However, we have to fight more intense this time!
    We have to tell the government what we really want and ask them to focus on social issues and stop corruption.
    We have to let them know, we will never give up for justice, for freedom, for democracy!
    THEY CAN'T KILL US ALL!

    Right now, there are citizens occupying the Chief Executive's Office and Central, the heart of the city.
    We would like to have your attention.
    We would like to have your help again.
    This government is out of control.
    We have to shut it down!
    We want universal sufferage!
    We want democracy!
    We want freedom!

    All Anonymous around the globe, If you agree with us, PLEASE HELP US AGAIN!
    Thank You.
    Hk Citizen.
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  2. savehk Member

    We need the help from anonymous. Please help us :)
  3. Anonymous Member

    What will this accomplish?
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  4. White Tara Global Moderator

    Eeeek, I didn't even notice that. :oops:
    savekh, wwp is a site dedicated to strictly legal, peaceful protesting. I would suggest if you are pursuing shutting down websites that maybe you have come to the wrong place.
  5. savehk Member

    Um... Actually I mean to give the message to the government that what we want. This is only one suggestion.
    Or say... We have to tell the government what we really want and ask them to focus on social issues and stop corruption.
    Let's figure out how to we tell the them our want effectively, legally and peacefully here
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  8. savehk Member

    Status update.
    The protesters occupied Central which made the traffic there jammed. Some citizens are going there to support them.
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    News also:
    http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...g-kong-protesters-demand-meet-chief-executive
    http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...-chaos-july-1-demonstrations-continue-central
    http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...-motivated-desire-public-nomination-2017-poll
    http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...point-fingers-over-slow-progress-july-1-march
    http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...n-occupy-central-rehearsal-after-july-1-march
    http://www.scmp.com/news/china-insi...ly-1-short-history-hong-kongs-march-democracy
    http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...ccounting-firms-disown-anti-occupy-central-ad

    We have stepped out to fight for democracy. Would you give out your hand?
    We protest peacefully. Peaceful civil disobedience. We want our voice to be heard by the government.
    We Expect your help. We want to protest peacefully, just like the operations these days, the march, occupying Chater Road and Chief Executive's Office.
    They are all done peacefully. We are peaceful protesters. We just want the government to listen to its people.
    Democracy FOREVER!
    Please give us a hand.

    HK Citizens.
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  16. Anonymous Member

    OP, your OP remains unedited:
    And, I've not received a truthful answer to my question:
    What I did see was this waffling of a reply to a moderators statement...
    Whenever I hear or see an "Um... Actually..." I assume there is lying taking place.

    In your case, I think that you are lying, I think you're a troll sent here with a worthless distraction.

    I also think you're a faggot.
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  17. savehk Member

    Sorry for making you misunderstood.
    Please note that I'm not a native English speaker and it may make some confusion between us.
    Let's clarity my views.

    Being involved in last night's march, we, the people, were angry with the government's action towards us.
    We were protesting legally, peacefully, and have received the 'Notice of No Objection' from the police.
    Which means, the march last night is totally legal.
    However, what we face were police blocking our planned route, use violence towards citizens.
    As said above, angry makes people to be irrational.
    That's why we said 'We have to shutdown the government's website!'We're sorry about giving out this misleading speech.
    Also,
    '
    However, we have to fight more intense this time!'
    Doesn't meant to use violence, but use more ways to make our voice to be heard.
    We don't like violence, and won't use violence.
    We want to protest peacefully, legally, just as how we used to in these 17 years after the handover.
    Even civil disobedience is illegal, but we'll bear our responsibility, to face the trial of law.
    You can see that, we, hongkongers, are always using a paceful way to protest.

    'What will this accomplish?'
    Sorry for overlooking your question.
    We want our voice to be heard.
    We want medias worldwide to report about the issue.
    We want the government to listen to people, not against us.
    You may refer to the infomation given above, you can see our determination.
    Sorry again for the unproper speech.
    What we want is simple.
    Democracy and freedom.
    We want to make more people to know about the issues here.
    That's all.

    I'm NOT lying.
    As mentioned before, I'm not a native speaker, which means misunderstanding will be easily occured.
    Our speeches are from our true heart.
    We want democracy, universial sufferage, freedom.
    If you keep thinking that I'm lying, I'm sorry.
    Our action is worthy.
    Letting the government listen to us, it can change our life.
    Because the influx of Mainland Chinese, the help from the govt to property companies,
    The income disparity is worsening. The Poor become poorer, the rich become richer.
    It's worthy to stop the government's action on turning Hong Kong to be a China city, turning Hong Kong to be a Third World Country's city.
    China is squeezing our life.
    The chinese government always say that:
    'Hong Kong is my territory, foreign countries intervention is unproper'
    Ignoring that Hong Kong's special status, a former British colony.
    The Sino-British Joint Declaration promised we could live under 'One Country, Two Systems'.
    We could keep our lifestyle for 50 years starting from 1997.
    But, nowadays, freedom already disappeared.
    China is always telling us : without us, you can't live.
    Ignoring the truth that we're selling electicity to them.
    The reservoirs in the city is sufficient to support ourselves.
    And now the government is planning to buy electricity from China?!
    It's totally insane.
    We have to protest.
    Issues:
    - The government is planning to buy electicity from China.
    - The white paper issued by Chinese Government is not respecting 'One Country, Two Systems' promise.
    - The corruption of officials.
    - The income disparity.
    - The influx of Chinese Tourists.
    - Universial Sufferage
    - Rights of derivative works
    - New Territiories land
    - More to be added...

    That's why what we want to protest.
    We have the right to choose our government!
    We need your help.
    Thank you.
  18. savehk Member

  19. (Say that again to the Iranian / mid-east muslim propaganda forum that has embedded itself in here, too. That shit needs to go.)

    kthx xoxbai
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  20. Disambiguation Global Moderator

    Hi savehk
    Your posts have had some negative responses. Many people here support protests in countries not their own. You made some mistakes with translation and our website culture but that's not uncommon.
    You are right that some of these responses are from trolls. Ignore them.
    This is the right place to post about your protests, just keep in mind we don't support illegal or violent protests, and asking for help often gets a NYPA response.
    You've started debate which is always a good thing.
    WWP is not the part of Anonymous that you are trying to recruit if you want action against your government, but information about protests is always welcome here.
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  21. savehk Member

    Thank you for your support.
    I misunderstood the usage of wwp, im sorry about that.
    Our protests are always peaceful and legal.
    You may refer to the reports above.
    Then if I want more people to get known of our country's situation, is that okay on wwp?
    We want to spread our ideas and update issues here.
    Thank you :)
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  22. HellRazor Member

    Spoiler alert: this will not end well.

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  23. Disambiguation Global Moderator

    Educating us about your protests is good, you might want to start a new thread because this one is full of trolling.
    I suggest a new thread here
    https://whyweprotest.net/community/forums/other-countries.388/
    if you get enough interest we can ask a global mod to do a thread on China instead of "Other Countries"
    Links and pictures are good. Long explanatory posts are bad- no one will read them and you will get tl;dr, DIAF faggot, NYPA. If you need translations let me know.
    You posted a lot so take a look at what you have and edit it down tp something manageable. Sometimes it's good to post a link and quote a paragraph so people will know if it's interesting to them.
    And pictures are worth a thousand words (Old saying)
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  24. savehk Member

    Thanks for your suggestion.
    Translation is not needed for now.
    I'll use more pictures in the new post.
    Thanks.
  25. Sekee Member

    They’ve started rounding up the protest organisers.

    I’ve noticed stories about the protests in HK in the UK press. I hope China honours its 1997 agreement.

  26. Disambiguation Global Moderator

    http://online.wsj.com/articles/hong-kong-pro-democracy-protesters-emboldened-by-march-1404289847
    hk2.jpg?w=672&h=448&crop=1.jpg
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  27. White Tara Global Moderator

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  29. White Tara Global Moderator

    I was blown away by the numbers. :) It should be quite hard for the authorities to ignore that sizeable a message.
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  30. White Tara Global Moderator

    BTW, Savehk I have cleaned up this thread a little so you should be ok to just keep using this thread for posts.
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  31. meep meep Member

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-28156725
    They censored the internet
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/03/us-china-internet-censorship-idUSKBN0F80SY20140703
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  32. http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/op...oritarian-China-not-protesters-265717231.html


    Intersting background on Tienemen Square
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  33. Disambiguation Global Moderator

    http://sinosphere.blogs.nytimes.com...g-protest/?_php=true&_type=blogs&src=twr&_r=0
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  34. meep meep Member

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  35. White Tara Global Moderator

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  36. anon8109 Member

    There will be a bloody crackdown if the protests escalate. China's leaders are not a turn the other cheek type of rulers, and they're not ones to make concessions when it comes to their totalitarian power.

    In a country of 1.3 billion, if say 1 million were to suddenly disappear, it would hardly be noticed. Don't think they can't do it, they've done much worse. From 1958-61 15 million died in an artificial famine.
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  37. White Tara Global Moderator

    Hong Kong is a unique situation though. It is the interface between China and the west. The fondness the west has for Hong Kong will see many eyes look upon what is happening. That in and of itself gives a modicum of protection for the Natives not enjoyed by mainland Chinese. At least this is my fervent hope.
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  38. anon8109 Member

    I wish this were true, but I don't think it is. Will the US start an all-out war with China to protect the people in Hong Kong? I don't think it would. Would the US break off trade with its greatest trading partner and largest lender? That would be suicidal for the US economy.

    There's not much of substance the US can do to prevent a crackdown.
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  39. White Tara Global Moderator

    The Chinese have, in spite of their ideological brutal core, become quite enamoured with a west friendly face, albeit to further their business ambitions. It would be counter productive to quash violently the people of their 'model' city. I think that even they might see that and play softly softly catchy monkey rather than apocalypse Hong Kong. I hope I am correct :(
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  40. White Tara Global Moderator

    Their business interests and relationships are worldwide at this point, so it does not pay to embarrass their multiple western business partners with heavy handed behaviour in Hong Kong. Do not get me wrong, they are intent on full control, but history has shown nobody knows how to be patient in their pursuits like the Chinese do.

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