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GF Mask: Copyrighted? Or Public Domain?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Trev6, May 18, 2009.

  1. tinfoilhatter Member


    WB has a long sordid history of suing people for tiny uses of their cartoon characters.

    http://www.gisselberglawfirm.com/downloads/trademark-cartoon2.pdf

    This is a nasty pdf, HOWEVER, the main thing that comes to play here is "dilution". while the dilution instance was for the "Arthur cartoon" not for a WB one, it is still a great example of "dilution", you can be sued into hell over dilution.

    One thing to note, Parody is also a defense for the justification of fair use. This opens up new avenues for fucking with scilons.

    this gives an example of some fair use instances too
    http://fairuse.stanford.edu/overview/fair-use/cases/
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  2. Ogsonofgroo Member

    Parody and humour has protected much imho, it is 'opinion', which theoretically is well protected by various constitutions...YMMV. Artistic licensce is another murky hole, should my own interpretation of the world be taken to task? I think not.
  3. bAnon Member


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  4. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

    But how the hell did time warner get the copyrights to a guy fawkes mask, a mask of a historical figure? According to this article.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/29/t...testers-aid-time-warners-profits.html?mcubz=1

    I recently made an accessory with a guy fawkes mask image that i got from a design from an artist who posted it for use under the creative commons law. I used the image thinking that there was no way someone could get a copyright or trademark of a historical figure but apparently I was wrong. Or so this article says, though I have not seen proof that says the guy fawkes mask is trademarked or copyrighted.

    I have seen where the "V for Vendetta Mask" may have been copyrighted or the characters in that film even though the character comes from a comic written in the 80s that was admittedly inspired by guy fawkes mask that already existed in the 50s 60s and 70s.
    (See article by Alan Moore below.)

    Not to take anything away from the artist who created the version we see on masks and images today, it was inspired by guy fawkes a historical figure.

    So my question is how can a "Guy Fawkes Mask" be copyrighted? I have searched the copyright and trademark systems but couldn't find where it says that Time Warner has claim to a depiction of Guy Fawkes.

    If someone who actually knows how to search or an intellectual property lawyer could produce that I would be glad to see what it says.

    Anyway I searched as much as I could to see guy fawkes masks pre 1980s and I would say they are pretty similar. Though back then they were used to make a "guy" effigy and not as masks that people would wear.
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    Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer and therefore do not know the intricacies of the law. I would merely like to see where it says we are unable to use a depiction of a historical character. If anyone can provide that.

    I have put links to what I found below.


    Here is a store that sells "V for Vendetta" masks and costumes not Guy Fawkes Masks

    https://www.rubies.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=vendetta

    Article by Alan Moore in which he claims that the inspiration for these masks came from masks that already existed depicting the historical figure Guy Fawkes.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-16968689

    Picture of a guy fawkes mask

    http://www.cyber-heritage.co.uk/museum/guy.jpg

    Article and pictures referencing pre 1980s Guy Fawkes Masks

    http://www.pyrosociety.org.uk/forum/topic/4998-guy-fawkes-masks/

    Astra advert from 1965 showing the mask

    http://www.pyrobin.com/files/astra ...(due to a rise in cost of living) (small).jpg


    A very good page about Guy Fawkes Day

    http://web.archive.org/web/20091023...ities.com/Pentagon/Quarters/8901/theguys.html


    Just for fun here is an interesting article and quite a funny video about the gunpowder plot.


    https://hubpages.com/education/Guy-Fawkes-Remember-Remember-the-Fifth-of-November
  5. Disambiguation Global Moderator

    This post contains some commercial links but it's all on topic so I'm not editing them out. Good job, very thorough.

  6. Thank you!
  7. I think I am going to the toilet and using my GF mask to clean my butt
  8. Sorry I read that post as GF as in girlfriend mask and I was wondering what that was.

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