Last night at about 8:30 or so I spotted a "FREE STRESS TEST" table set up at Fresno City College, near the main courtyard fountain... didn't get a chance to snap a picture or anything because my phone was completely dead but I did get in a loud praise lord xenu which got a dirty look from the guy trying to sucker a poor girl in to a billion years of "fun". If anyone else in the area sees this, help me out and be sure to troll them at every chance you get...
If it was actually on campus, then they would have needed the school's permission to be there. And the school's administration should be harpooned, educated and raked over the coals for allowing them to be there. If they did not have permission to be there, then the school administration and campus security should be informed and on alert to prevent that shit from happening again. So while trolling the table itself may be fun, in this instance it sounds like the location can be exploited and used against them for a flat out ban and/or charges of trespassing.
Nah, Big Beings* don't frequent degraded websites like WWP. * Hubbard wrote in a bulletin dated 3/22/67 that only 1 in every 18 people were a Big Being, the rest are degraded beings.
^^^This. Years ago I was on the grounds of FCC for an event and they had some incredibly strict rules about locations we could set up, etc. I really hope the clams weren't there with permission, but even if they are, they should be made to conform to the highest standards...
Campus security/police don't have an email address unfortunately (at least listed on their webpage)... I have class again tonight, if I see them out there again I can always find a campus cop and have them make sure they have a permit to be out there.
When you have a chance, you really should go higher than that and find out two things: 1. Is permission required for a stand/table of ANY sort of promotion allowed on campus at that location? (Chances are - no. Not unless it is a job fair or other multiple-vendor type events which involves a registration and screening/approval process.) 2. What is the channel of authority for getting such permission? (Typically, it requires permission just to post promotional shit on a bulletin board in a cafeteria or library. So for something like a table in a location central to major foot traffic - rubberstamped paperwork HAS to exist. I'm betting this step was skipped.) Once you know the above details, knowing who to complain to and gripe at will be easy. Harpoons can then be fired. Not sure where to find this stuff out? Talk to one of your profs that has been employed there for a long time. They will surely be able to point you to the right place to start asking questions.
The student newspaper will take an interest if you let them know that a cult is recruiting on campus.
Tuesday night must be this guys night... Out here again... Getting a hold of campus PD as I type this...
Thanks, please keep us updated. +1 harpooner reporting in to help stop this bullshit once we figure out who we should be talking to.
Also try the Student Union. They'll probably use a vague claim that they "had permission". Between the admin and the student union, you've got them blocked. Scientology-link group is banned March 18, 2004, Alan McEwen, Edinburgh Evening News, The Scotsman Typical clams thinking that they can just waltz onto campus and setup a table without anyone's permission.
Alright guys... I need help. Campus PD says they will look in to it when I call.. After the last time I called when I got out of class he was gone and didn't show up the following week... But tonight he's back... Unfortunately I can't keep missing time in class trying to deal with this... So if anyyyyone in the area can help me out pleaseeeeee do. This guy sets up after the sun starts to go down... He's not here when I come in to class but is there when I go to break around 730... Every Tuesday night this occurs.
A friend in a Guy Fawkes mask waiting there next Tuesday should do the trick. Cards and flyers in the area would also help.
Sorry, I forgot to add, each time I have seen him on campus he is in the exact same spot near the main courtyard fountain... anyone who has been to FCC will know exactly where I am talking about... he's always set up on the Library side because it tends to be a little bit darker than the other side. It seems that FCC is a hotbed for campus PD activity during the day, but after about 6pm you are lucky if you can even spot one anywhere.
A preemptive heads-up to Campus PD may be in order if you can't find somebody else to assist. Suggestion: Next Tuesday, call Campus PD late in the day with a friendly reminder about the situation and see if you can get them to swing by the location shortly after sunset.
If that is a free speech area there really isn't anything the PD can do. We need to know if other groups have been permitted to set up there. If not you may have something. If so, then you'll have to run them off using other means.
Outside groups ALWAYS need official permission to be on campus. Even the traditional Baptist, Methodist, Catholic students fellowships need an official campus advisor/sponsor and a charter, etc. Guaranteed that Scilons do not. POONS!
Not necessarily. Many universities have free speech areas that can be used by anyone anytime. Noon time preachers are a local favorite in my world. CoS could just as easily set up there as anyone else. We need to know this before we poon.
http://www.communitywalk.com/fresno Fresno City College Free Speech Area is listed on bottom left hand side.
Now we're getting somewhere. But not being familiar with FCC, I'm having trouble confirming if OP's locational info is in the free speach zone: Where is courtyard fountain and library on this zoomed in map from above link?
That is all I could find wolfie, but I'll keep digging. I suppose one could just call the college and ask about the free speech area.
I found a campus map! (but I'mma still studying it and comparing to one I posted above) http://online.fresnocitycollege.edu/CMB/MainCampus1200.html
Heres a overview with some references compared to the map you guys posted... sorry for the shitty quality, I don't have anything other than pain installed on this pc...
There is essentially an identical courtyard type area, directly behind where he is set up though to the area that is designated "free speech area"... basically 2 identical courtyards to the right and the left side of the fountains. Either way, free speech and selling books are two different things.
Not good... scilons may indeed be in the "free speech zone" if that zone includes the entirety of the University Mall. Based on combining the campus map for FCC and GoogleMap showing free speech zone, plus info for the fountain + GoogleMaps streetview for that info on the following links: http://www.waymarking.com/waymarks/WM3Q2D_Fresno_City_College_Fountain_Fresno_CA https://maps.google.com/maps?q=11S E 250405 N 4072628&hl=en&ll=36.7663,-119.798167&spn=0.001199,0.002411&sll=36.7666,-119.79635&sspn=0.009523,0.01929&t=m&z=19&layer=c&cbll=36.766337,-119.798211&panoid=uaT-HIKy2UDdCKTDnOdVKg&cbp=12,55.67,,0,0 This is what I'm seeing when all that data is combined: EDIT: DISREGARD - OP POSTED BETTER MAP WITH EXACT LOCATION "X" marks the spot where I think the "main fountain" is. And OP seems to be saying the spot the table shows up at on Tuesday night is between the fountain and the library. This location needs confirmed, as does exactly how far the free speech area extends (to the left) on the mall.
The X on your map is not where the fountain is... the fountain is essentially where the "Fresno City College" is in your map
If you look on your map where it says Media Center... that's the tutorial/assessment center... basically directly north of the Entrance/Exit that is listed on your map is where he is setting up.