Discussion in 'Leaks & Legal' started by Triumph, May 9, 2013.
I got the same basic reply even though I went with the option for ABCNews.com content. And FWIW the poon I fired was a good bit longer cuz I tapped in mention of The Atlantic advert debacle.
ABC Features Dianetics Ad For Suit Involving Scientology | The Underground Bunker
Florida medical center 'forced staff to scream at ashtrays and stare at each other for hours without moving during compulsory Scientology classes'
- At least four employees at Dynamic Medical Services in Miami were allegedly forced to spend at least half their working days in Scientology courses
- Two staff were allegedly terminated when they refused to participate
- Equal Employment Opportunity Commission filed suit seeking damages for the fired workers and called the actions 'a shameful violation of the law'
- Dynamic Medical denies the claims and says it prides itself on diversity
Chiropractor in Viral Video Is Posing In Front of Scientology Certificates | The Underground Bunker
One of our tipsters knew we’d get a kick out of a viral video that is making the rounds of Mashable and other websites today. It’s an unusual video advertisement for a Los Angeles chiropractor named Ryan Lee. Here’s how Mashable describes it, under the headline “Creepy Local Chiropractor Ad Will Make You Wince”…
The scientology certs in the background telegraphs, "Hi, I'm a nutjob who cracks joints to buy scientology."
"This certificate has reached the state of oversized"
I'm sorry, I might have missed it in this thread, but it doesn't seem that sufficient fun has been made of the name "Nobbe", yet.
Woman says she was fired for refusing Scientology - MSN
She claims she was forced to take religious courses that included screaming at ashtrays and staring at co-workers.
The Church of Scientology, meanwhile, has remained mum about the case.
The allegedly berated ashtray also remained silent.
Safe. Hopefully not a duplicate.
Astrays are bad and should feel bad.
Through sheer suppressive stubbornness they have resisted all wanna-be OTs from levitating them with their gnarly OT powerz.
Miami Chiropractor Forced Employees To Convert To Scientology, Feds Allege - Miami New Times
By Tim Elfrink, May 20, 2013
Sales is a tough job. Those widgets ain't moving themselves. And everyone knows what happens at the weekly sales meeting: First prize is a Cadillac, second prize is a set of steak knives, and third place is you're fired. It's no different at Dynamic Medical Services, a Miami chiropractic center where salespeople had strict daily quotas: 12 new appointments for free consultations plus followups to persuade patients to pony up for paid services.
But if federal investigators are to be believed, those sales folks were also forced to spend half of each day toiling over L. Ron Hubbard's books and were coerced into screaming at ashtrays, staring down strangers in malls, and undergoing "cleansing" rituals in a sauna. If they didn't commit themselves to Scientology, the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission says in a federal complaint, they were fired.
Continued at http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2013/05/miami_chiropractor_forced_empl.php
Meet Dennis Nobbe, Miami Chiropractor and Scientologist! | The Underground Bunker
We spoke yesterday with Beatriz Biscardi, the EEOC attorney who filed a lawsuit on May 8 against Dynamic Medical Services, Inc., a Miami chiropractic business run by a Scientologist named Dennis Nobbe.
On May 9, we reported that the EEOC had put out a press release announcing that it was suing Nobbe’s business for forcing his employees to take Scientology courses that had them “screaming at ashtrays or staring at someone for eight hours without moving.”
As press releases put out by federal agencies go, it was a weird one. Within the week, the story had been picked up by major news organizations, each of them imparting little more than what was known from the press release or the legal complaint.
But we wanted to know, how did Nobbe and the government get to this point?
Continued with comments at
The wall of fire has fried his brain cells
I am disappoint. I was rather fond of my initial phonetic error assumption that Dennis Nobbe was indeed a "KNOB" when in actuality he's a "KNOW-bee."
Is there any kind of link between chiropractors and scientology in the UK (like there is in the US)?
Any UK cases to date?
Or involving WISE and other 'professions' in the UK?
ad vets and dentists to that list too
COS targets these professions by having the dentist (for instance) pay for the printing of pamphlets and they insert the dentist's name on the pamphlet and these pamphlets are left for his patients in the waiting room. That is one way that WISE gets to these particular professions
This is why we are in dire need of a fresh WISE membership list leakage. As discussed on some other thread buried up here somewhere.
We need a recently disgruntled member (with a current WISE membership) who has quietly drifted away from Scientology and commenced to sever their ties with it discreetly. But hasn't yet openly renounced it to the point of being declared an SP. The ideal candidate for said leak could then login to the WISE members-only website and extract a current membership list to feed us activists, who could put it to good use in soooooo many delicious ways, so that all the scilon-infected businesses run by cultie whales could be properly exposed in the daylight.
an ex employee of Sterling Management would be great.
also WISE needs a TON more expose.
They skulk in several different ways, one way was the one I mentioned above, but they also skulk into places by approaching a business owner and presenting their "program" as a way to increase employee productivity in the work place. The owner of the business then gets a commission for every employee he gets on course. The "program" usually work in the beginning, (which is why the business owner gets hooked) but it's only because it is just an "improve employee output course" that any other business solution place can do, but then the employees end up getting in deeper by buying COS books and then going on course.
correct me if I am wrong.
After the shenanigans over at narconon, maybe the insurance companies would find much lulz and profit to be had looking thru Mr.Dr.'s billings and confirming that patients got (at the very least) the treatment that was billed for...
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Bump! We haven't heard any news on this case since it was filed. Can haz pacerfag updates plox? kthxbai.
What's wrong about being a Scientologist AND a) chiropractor, b) businessman, c) doctor, d) teacher... ?
- Are they wrong (if being Scientologists)? If so, why?
Scientology is incompatible with science.
It might be compatible with chiropractic quackery, though.
There are also just plain wrong things about being a Scientologist at all.
Don't care WHAT you are in your private life. When you fire your employees for not sharing your 'religious beliefs' you are just a muthafukin piece of shit, no matter your 'religion'. And ultimately that is what this suit was about- employees were fired for refusing to take scientology classes.
Is it religion or secular science- you really can't have it both ways.
Thanks for enlightening.
How come that "chiropractic quackery' keeps on doing its quackery?
And: WHAT is really wrong about being a Scientologist?
Please deliver! Facts only!
I feel you.
Scn has been nothing but pseudoreligion. And pseudoscience.- Scn doesn't create any field for further education.
You were struck with having to become a Scientologist at work?
As you know, the EEOC filed its lawsuit on May 8, 2013.
On June 14, 2013, the aggrieved [former] employees filed a complaint in intervention (remember, in this case the plaintiff is the EEOC). So the aggrieved former employees are now party plaintiffs.
The clams filed Motions to Dismiss both complaints: the EEOC's AND the intervenors. The EEOC and the intervenor plaintiffs have requested time to amend their complaints, and the court ordered them to do so by 10-7-2013.
What that means is the case isn't even technically "at-issue" - not until all the plaintiffs have an operative complaint and the clams have answered.
Of note is that the clams have a slew of attorneys (of course), but the predominant "big firm" attorney from Proskauer Rose withdrew from representation early in September.
So, not too much going on but procedural stuff. I will be curious to see what happens with the amended complaints. The clams may move to dismiss again. Or they may answer.
I'll try to remember to look again in mid-October...
Wilk v. AMA
That does not bode well for the cult. Proskauer Rose avoids cases that are frivolous. Either the cult does not want to pay their fees, or Proskauer thinks protracted defense is waste of time.
Allan H. Weitzman is a pretty heavy hitter, too. He probably didn't want to be micromanaged, though it is hard to say whether or how much the CoS itself is involved in the defense, or if Dynamic Medical is running the show all by itself.
Some firm called Greenwald Doherty (http://greenwaldllp.com/) out of Orangeburg, New York, is handling the defense (never heard of them - 7 attorneys, 1 office), with required local counsel in the form of Brian D. Buckstein, P.A. (never heard of him, either: http://www.bucksteinlaw.com/) - solo guy.
The problem is, Scientologists will fair game you if you tell these to them. COB will personally put you into RPF. You are just a fail troll, aren't you? Or else, you answer to the govt EEOC, not that we need to answer you, feeding the troll.
You really are that obtuse.
Excellent summary. Some entries from the docket that map dates to the key actions you covered:
05/24/2013 (Doc. 4) Unopposed MOTION to Intervene by Rommy Sanchez, Norma Rodriguez and Yanileydis Capote.
06/14/2013 (Doc. 12) Intervenor COMPLAINT, filed by Yanileydis Capote, Maykel Ruz, Rommy Sanchez, Norma Rodriguez.
08/26/2013 (Doc. 24) MOTION TO DISMISS (Doc. 1) Complaint FOR FAILURE TO STATE A CLAIM by Dynamic Medical Services, Inc.. Responses due by 9/12/2013 (Weitzman, Allan)
08/26/2013 (Doc. 25) MOTION TO DISMISS (Doc. 12) Intervenor Complaint FOR FAILURE TO STATE A CLAIM by Dynamic Medical Services, Inc.. Responses due by 9/12/2013 (Weitzman, Allan)
9/10/2013 (Doc 27) ORDER granting Proskauer Rose LLP's 26 Motion to Withdraw as Counsel for Defendant. Attorney Allan H. Weitzman terminated. Signed by Judge Kathleen M. Williams on 9/10/2013.
09/11/2013 (Doc 30) ORDER granting (Doc. 28) Unopposed Motion for Extension of Time to Amend Complaint. Amended Complaint due by 9/30/2013. Signed by Judge Kathleen M. Williams on 9/11/2013.
09/13/2013 (Doc 33) ORDER granting Intervening Plaintiff's 31 Unopposed Motion for Extension of Time to Amend Complaint. Amended Complaint due by 10/7/2013. Signed by Judge Kathleen M. Williams on 9/13/2013.
I was tempted to grab a copy of the Intevenor complaint that added additional employees to the plaintiff side, but it looks like waiting for the amended complaints will be the more valuable to have in the public domain.
The withdraw is magically delicious! As is all the extra attorneys the additional plaintiffs brought on board.
Hey! Thanks for catching that 9-30 deadline for the EEOC. Missed that one...
Bump for recent docket entries:
10/08/2013 (Doc 40) MOTION for Extension of Time to File Answer RE: Complaints re Doc 35 Amended Complaint by Dynamic Medical Services, Inc.. (Buckstein, Brian) (Entered: 10/08/2013)
10/08/2013 (Doc 39) Unopposed MOTION for Extension of Time to File Answer RE: Complaints re Doc 38 Amended Complaint, filed in Intervention by Dynamic Medical Services, Inc.. (Buckstein, Brian) (Entered: 10/08/2013)
10/04/2013 (Doc 38) First AMENDED COMPLAINT in Intervention against Dynamic Medical Services, Inc. filed in response to Order Granting Motion for Leave, filed by Yanileydis Capote, Maykel Ruz, Rommy Sanchez, Norma Rodriguez.(Palma, Zandro) Modified Text on 10/7/2013 (ls). (Entered: 10/04/2013)
10/01/2013 (Doc 37) Unopposed MOTION to Stay Proceedings in Light of Lapse of Appropriations by Equal Employment Opportunity Commission. Responses due by 10/18/2013 (Biscardi, Beatriz) Modified Text on 10/2/2013 (ls). (Entered: 10/01/2013)
10/01/2013 (Doc 36) Joint MOTION for Leave to File Scheduling Report within Forty-Five (45) days by Equal Employment Opportunity Commission. (Biscardi, Beatriz) Modified Text on 10/2/2013 (ls). (Entered: 10/01/2013)
09/30/2013 (Doc 35) AMENDED COMPLAINT against Dynamic Medical Services, Inc. filed in response to Order Granting Motion for Leave, filed by Equal Employment Opportunity Commission.(Biscardi, Beatriz) Modified Text on 10/1/2013 (ls). (Entered: 09/30/2013)
09/30/2013 (Doc 34) NOTICE of Attorney Appearance by Ana Consuelo Martinez on behalf of Equal Employment Opportunity Commission. Attorney Ana Consuelo Martinez added to party Equal Employment Opportunity Commission(ptyla). (Martinez, Ana) (Entered: 09/30/2013)
Documents 35, 37 and 38 - coming soon!
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