Fire season 2018

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    Disaster relief? Scientology’s own documents spell out the real mission of ‘Volunteer Ministers’

    By Jeffrey Augustine, The Underground Bunker, November 19, 2018


    With the incredibly destructive, lethal, and unprecedented wildfires in California, Scientology’s ambulance chasing Volunteer Ministers have been out in front of the cameras getting their photo ops. For years, we’ve been documenting here at the Bunker how the VMs descend on disaster scenes pretending to be helpful when all they really want to do is get in the way and take their pictures and videos.

    We were reminded of that when we saw a post that showed up in the comments here about Chico, California, where people are dealing with the apocalyptic Camp Fire.


    Scientology leader David Miscavige for many years claimed that the Volunteer Ministers were the “world’s largest independent all volunteer relief force.”

    After so much exposure of Scientology’s Volunteer Ministers by critics, however, Scientology has had to backpedal on that claim and downgrade it to stating that the “Volunteer Ministers have emerged as one of the largest independent relief forces on Earth.” However, even this downgraded statement is not true as the Volunteer Ministers are not independent in any way whatsoever. Rather, the VMs are a part of the Church of Scientology International and the VM program is wholly managed by CSI officials. The domain for the Volunteer Ministers is registered to the Church of Scientology.

    Given the inherent evasiveness of the Church of Scientology we must ask what the Volunteer Ministers are from a legal perspective. For example, in my previous articles I have covered how the Sea Org does not actually exist in any legal sense. Do the Volunteer Ministers actually exist? E662E42A-3B55-4276-A7B5-441316FB8B54.jpeg
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    Trump doesn’t know the name of the town he was visiting. The name is Paradise and Trump...calls it Pleasure
    “'Pleasure, what a name': Trump confused over fire-hit town Paradise”
    “Trump blames forest management as he visits California’s wildfire zone
    U.S. President Trump visited the devastation of the California wildfires and blamed poor management of the forests for the wildfires. ”
    “Trump said Finland prevents wildfires by 'raking' the forest. Finns say it's #RakeNews”
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    Finland Takes Trump’s Forest Management Advice Very Seriously

    CODA: We are living in an era when satire seems to be imitating life so much, that it is becoming increasingly difficult to tell what’s what. Caveat emptor.
  7. On Twitter some just said in Florida they clean up after every storm and that why they don’t get forest fires
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  9. Trump made their climate great with humidity which decreases fires, he will someday do the same for California!!!!!
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  11. The death toll is 83 with hundreds missing. Rain is coming and will put out the fire but cause landslides on the bare slopes
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    By Rod Keller, The Underground Bunker


    There are two main fires in California, the Camp Fire that destroyed most of the town of Paradise in Northern California and the Woolsey Fire in the south that destroyed over 1,500 structures in Ventura and Los Angeles before it was contained. As usual Scientology is offering their services through the Volunteer Ministers and this week they tried to boost their numbers with the power of celebrity.

    Scientologist Kirstie Alley recorded a “call to action” to encourage Scientologists to volunteer to help victims of the Camp Fire. It’s unusual in that she asks people to call either the VMs or the Salvation Army. Scientology established itself in a Walmart parking lot tent city and have been coordinating with the Salvation Army center at another location in the city of Chico.


    Scientologists are being asked to volunteer in large numbers because there are reports that relief organizations want “assists,” faith-healing routines created by L. Ron Hubbard to address a wide variety of conditions. The call is going out for volunteers in the hundreds, but the response is in the dozens. We take the stories that everybody wants Scientology assists with a grain of salt.

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    “With California experiencing two years of unprecedented wildfires that have left more than 20,000 homes destroyed and scores dead, the private firefighting business is booming. These brigades work independently from county firefighters; their job is to protect specific homes under contract with insurance companies.”
    “Crews will rake vegetation around the home”
    Of course they do.
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    “These states range from ordinary negligence, which generally will not support a criminal conviction, to malice aforethought, which is the mental state for murder," the brief read.

    Offenses could range from misdemeanor violations regarding the company's maintenance of vegetation near power lines to felony offenses for starting the fire, or homicide offenses for "implied-malice murder and involuntary manslaughter."”

    “Pacific Gas & Electric's maintenance of their infrastructure has been questioned in recent years.
    Twelve fires in 2017 were found to have been sparked by equipment owned by PG&E.
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    PG&E and Camp Fire: wildfire damages force utility to declare bankruptcy | Vox


    PG&E, the largest utility in California, announced Monday that it will file for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection at the end of the month, providing a 15-day advance notice required by law.

    What’s forcing the company into this unsavory position isupward of $30 billion in liability after record-breaking deadly wildfires in 2017 and 2018 torched big swaths of California. Investigators have attributed more than 1,500 fires to PG&E power lines and hardware between June 2014 and December 2017, according to the Wall Street Journal. And PG&E equipment is a major suspect in the Camp Fire, an October blaze that killed 85 people and destroyed almost 14,000 homes, making it the deadliest and most destructive wildfire in state history.

    By Monday morning, the investor-owned utility had lost more than half of its stock value, with its market cap falling to $4.7 billion. The company employs 20,000 workers, serving 4.3 million natural gas customers and 5.4 million electricity customers (whose service will not be interrupted for now).

    We just pulled up to PG&E- they have workers putting up barricades in front of their building. The security guard said “no comment” when I asked why. The utility just announced this morning it is preparing to file for chapter 11 bankruptcy. The CEO resigned.
    Amy Hollyfield (@amyhollyfield) January 14, 2019

    The bankruptcy is a major development in an ongoing showdown between the company and its regulator, the California Public Utilities Commission, and state legislators over who ultimately bears the costs for these disasters.

    While PG&E may now be on the hook for huge damages, regulators limit how much of this they can pass on to their customers via electricity and gas rates. Yet we still don’t know what the precise implications of the bankruptcy are for customers. (The CPUC said no one was available to comment.)

    But the fall of a major utility is also a chilling example of how the impacts of climate change can pummel US companies and taxpayers right now. And the risks are only growing.

    Climate change is forcing utilities to change how they do business

    Once upon a time, utilities were a relatively safe bet for shareholders. Utilities are tightly regulated, they sell things everyone needs, and their customer base is steady, if not growing. While some utilities placed some bad bets, the ones that stuck to their core products — gas, water, electricity — tended to do pretty well. PG&E was a case in point.

    “If you asked a few years ago, I think people would have said it’s a good investment,” said Travis Kavulla, the former president of the National Association of Regulatory Utility Commissioners and now the director of energy policy at the R Street Institute.

    However, California is one of only a handful of states that hold utilities responsible for damage stemming from their equipment even in the course of normal operations. This wasn’t too much of an issue until multiple large fires started being traced back to PG&E hardware. This startled investors, who began pressuring lawmakers.

    The California state legislature passed a law last year, Senate Bill 901, that allowed PG&E to pass the costs of its liability for the 2017 fires to its customers. PG&E estimated that it would cost an average customer an additional $5 per year for every $1 billion issued in bonds.

    However, the law doesn’t cover the fires in 2018, and it’s unclear if state lawmakers want to rescue the utility again. If the company can’t pass the costs to its customers, then it’s PG&E investors who have to pay.

    And this reckoning isn’t exclusive to California. Across the United States, the power sector is vulnerable to climate change. Prolonged droughts have threatened the supply of cooling water for power plants. Extreme weather events have wiped out infrastructure, as we saw when Hurricane Maria shrouded Puerto Rico in the largest blackout in US history. Rising temperatures are fueling surging peak electricity demand in places like Texas, pushing power generation capacity to the limit as reserve margins get thinner.

    “By far the most important environmental factor affecting [electricity transmission, storage, and distribution] infrastructure needs now and going forward is global climate change,” the US Department of Energy noted in its 2015 Quadrennial Energy Review.

    The question now: How does a utility price in the risks of rising temperatures and stay in business? When a utility like PG&E has to bear the costs of record-breaking wildfires, it effectively has to become an insurance company in addition to being a utility since it has to manage and distribute risks of uncommon but devastating events.

    “The answer, unfortunately, is that everyone has been caught so flat-footed by this episode that no one has thought seriously about that,” Kavulla said. “Do you socialize the risk, or do you expect private capital to bear it?”

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