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Fact-Checking the Freedom and SPT Articles

Discussion in 'St Petersburg Times expose' started by MongoLloyd, Aug 2, 2009.

  1. LarryBren Member

    Re: Fact-Checking the Freedom and SPT Articles

    Close enough. FWIW:

    http://forums.whyweprotest.net/123-...-conference-san-francisco-49186/2/#post937787

    He was really running 99% of the show by late 1981. Hubbard's written orders came to WDC members in parts of 82 and 83 then faded out. But even then Miscavige was running all the key parts of organized scientology from ASI by running the top dogs in CMO/WDC, Special Unit and RTC.
  2. Ann O'Nymous Member

    Re: Fact-Checking the Freedom and SPT Articles

    I am pleased to see that the fact-checking is going on nicely...
  3. Re: Fact-Checking the Freedom and SPT Articles

    Found this on another thread.
  4. Ann O'Nymous Member

    Re: Fact-Checking the Freedom and SPT Articles

    Nice.
  5. DeathHamster Member

    Re: Fact-Checking the Freedom and SPT Articles

    An official: BBC denies 'death threat' in Scientology row May 14, 2007, Stephen Adams, Telegraph
    A Scientology spokesman: From Mysterious Property Buyer to Community Presence December 18, 2005, Claire Hoffman, Los Angeles Times
    A top Scientology official: How Scientology turned its biggest critic July 7, 2002, Deborah O'Neil, St. Petersburg Times
    Director of OSA: Inside Scientology February 23, 2006, Janet Reitman, Rolling Stone
    International external affairs director: MPs call for tax probe into cult May 20, 2007, James Murray, Daily Express
    A director at Church of Scientology International: Scientologists may take legal action in Panorama row May 15, 2007, Owen Gibson, The Guardian
    Head of Scientology International's Office of Special Affairs: Tom Cruise and Scientology December 18, 2005, Claire Hoffman, Los Angeles Times

    Well, it's obvious what's going on! Mike Rinder and all those newspapers were in a conspiracy to lie about his position, took the last of the strawberries, and had an extra key made!
  6. RHill Member

    Re: Fact-Checking the Freedom and SPT Articles

    Vicki Aznaran was COB RTC prior to Miscavige.
  7. Relyt Member

    Re: Fact-Checking the Freedom and SPT Articles

    I know I'm very slow at replying to this, but seeing that certainly more than half of the posts made in this thread are about whether something is shopped or not, has gotten me feeling sorry for the lot of you. In a thread that's supposed to be about "fact-checking", or rather, seeing what they're lying or exaggerating about, etc. Good on the ones who are actually putting out facts to counter their statements and arguments, but please, if you're going to have a huge discussion about whether the confetti is a lie or if you see duplicates, create a different thread for it.

    Another thing about the "lies" they print, or have said in the past, is that while many of them are lies, other parts are just "acceptable truths", or ambiguous statements.

    Such as:
    "LRH technology has been introduced to over X amount of people worldwide in Y year". "Introduced" obviously doesn't indicate whether or not people have accepted it, taken it into consideration, or even paid attention to it. Like BFG said, they find reasons in which to inflate the numbers in any way they can. For example, if they displayed a commercial on three separate channels, and added up the total ratings of those TV stations as the number of people who have been "introduced".

    Another one:
    "Scientology basics have been put in 97,000 libraries worldwide". This can be true, that they "put" books in libraries, or rather "sent them to", but it doesn't mean that the libraries kept the books. Especially since some of us have investigated those claims ourselves, only to find that the librarians admitted to getting rid of the boxes of books they have sent, or that some of them never received any at all.

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