Ex-OSA spy to speak at Riverside BOS meeting, 7/26/11

Discussion in 'GoldBase' started by Anonymous, Jul 25, 2011.

  1. Orson Member

    Pretty good stuff, sorry that I missed this thread until today. OP sounds like maniacal rambling, but Paulien Lombard's comments were pretty epic. And she gave the most polite "fuck you" to Jeff Stone ever delivered. Good for her.
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  2. Diablo Member

    Jeff Stone needs to be investigated...further!
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  3. Anonymous Member

    Maybe get counselling for all that hate.
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  4. Smurf Member

    Actually, it's Charles Martin Prince. [IMG] He's a mortgage broker.

    License Type: BROKER
    Name: Prince, Charles Martin
    Mailing Address: 7618 E APPLETREE LN, ORANGE, CA 92869
    License ID: 00887075
    Expiration Date: 11/13/12
    Broker License Issued: 11/14/08
    Main Office: 2942 E CHAPMAN AVE #183, ORANGE, CA 92869
    Affiliated Licensed Corporation(s):

    01886997 - Officer Expiration Date: 08/09/14 - Marty Prince Inc
    01151845 - Officer Expiration Date: 04/07/13 - Mortgage Technology Inc

    Comment: NO DISCIPLINARY ACTION Prince&init=public#!/profile.php?id=1177491927
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  5. Saul Goodman Member


  6. Herro Member

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  8. Anonymous Member

    That's what their neighbors say the need...actually, they said they need "deprogramming!"
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  9. Caught this vid the other day and I was impressed. Good on her for stepping up and flipping the proverbial bird to Jeff Stone.
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  11. Anonymous Member

    It only took one night with Google for me.
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  12. What triggered that first click on 'enter'? What site(s) did you go to first? What content was most influential to encourage you to continue your Google search? whatever degree you wish to share :)
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  13. mnql1 Member

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  14. Anonymous Member

    I can tell you one, single, simple answer that transcends every culture, age, country, and every demographic.

    Every person has that one moment in their life that leaves them wondering and wanting. Everyone does. There's a few billion people on the planet. In those singular, personal and vulnerable moments, scientology manages to suck in .000000000000002%. Others slide into other sources and some into politics and some into fast food and some into science or electrical engineering.

    It sounds like you want a one-shot answer, just like scientologists and others want a one-shot cure all answer. It doesn't exist, but conmen throughout history have sold it anyway, over and over and over.
    It doesn't exist. It gets sold over and over.
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  15. Anonymous Member

  16. Actually I was inquiring about Anon's departure from scientology flowing from that "one night with google." Perhaps there is a new strategy for chanology in the answer.

    But thank you for your thoughtful response.

  17. Anonymous Member

    I was looking for the evidence to back up an assertion about psychiatry made at an IAS event I had just gone to (I was under the impression that the IAS had obtained audio recordings of some psychiatry bigwig making plans to take over the world). I planned to use this evidence to convert my friends to Scientology.

    Instead I found Operation Clambake.

    It was so unexpected to me (that anyone on earth might disagree with Scientology) that I had to find out more. I mean, what the fuck? It felt like I had run into someone who was seriously trying to convince me that soup kitchens were part of a global conspiracy to kill children. What on earth could possess someone to say something like that? Where could such an idea even come from???

    The first article I read was Behar's article calling Scientology a thriving cult of greed and power (because I remembered being told that Time Magazine had published something suppressive). Determined to debunk his article, I read everything I could trying to prove to myself that there was no real evidence against Scientology, and that all of the people saying it was evil didn't have a clue about what they were talking about. This was easy to convince myself of for a lot of people, but I was determined to find the person with the strongest argument against Scientology and prove him wrong.

    When I found the alleged OT III materials online, I hesitated a bit before reading them. I hadn't actually heard the story that you would get pneumonia and die from reading them early until I saw the warning online, and I was half certain that the author of that website was just making up the warning to try and make Scientologists seem crazy. The other half of me was saying, I'm not going to let a little piece of text get the better of me! I'm not weak enough to get caught in a dwindling spiral and die from a piece of fucking information! (And even if I do, I have billions of years to fix myself back up with or without the help of Scientology, seeing as I am of course an immortal being. So I wasn't really risking much by reading it, although I was still a bit nervous as I scrolled down and read it.)

    In one night I went through Madman or Messiah, Inside Scientology (by Kaufman), A Piece of Blue Sky, and god knows how many other books.

    Was a long night. I think the breaking point was reading an OT VI describe trying to project intention on a waitress in a restaurant (like in the TR films) and failing, and going into detail about his experiences Solo auditing. It is impossible for me to describe the incredible sinking feeling that comes along with realizing that there are no super powers to be gained, that you are not going to live forever, and that to top it all off the reason you've been lied to about this was something as petty as money. I was half hoping that I would go into a dwindling spiral and catch pneumonia, because at least that would be confirmation that I was going to live forever.

    After that I found the Operation Snow White article on Wikipedia... what the fuck
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  18. Anonymous Member

    ^^^^^^^ WOW!!! ^^^^^^^

    Thank you!!!
  19. Yes, wow, thanks for your detailed answer. So glad you made it out the other side.

    Your reply highlights the importance of keeping websites alive to preserve good access to all the archival information contained within.
    Even if a particular site may not be one's particular cup of tea.

    Thanks again anon.
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  20. grebe Member

    Welcome home, Anonymous!

    Being a humble mammal who lives and dies without magic super powers can be rough going. But reality is far more interesting and surprising than some old blowhard's personal delusions.
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  21. Anonymous Member

    I'm curious why you wanted to believe a psychiatry "bigwig" was making plans to take over the world.
  22. xenubarb Member

    It's like us wanting to believe the worst of every Scientologist, even the "good" ones who only want to help people. If you want to believe it badly, you will. (Right, Herro?)
    Plus, as he/she said, looking for evidence of eebil psych plans for global domination to use to convert friends to Scientology.

    Now they know who has the plans for global takeover, and it's not Dr. Freud.
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  23. A key part of how the Church of Scientology keeps the pressure on staff and public is the idea that Scientology is under attack by sinister forces (led by the psychs) and Scientologists are the only thing holding back planetary ruin. It combines making people feel important with rallying them against an external enemy that only Scientologists even know exists.

    If they could prove that it was true it could indeed be a good way to convince others that Scientology was right.

    Unfortunately, most psychiatrists don't seem to realize that they are at war with Scientology and those who do are largely puzzled about it.
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  26. DeathHamster Member

    I would just like to thank Team Scientology for their efforts in making sure that the article was well-sourced and written from the neutral point of view. (Not that they wanted any of the article.)
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  27. Random guy Member

    I had a similar experience, though I was never in. I stumbled upon the original "Call to arms" and became interested. Then I found Jeff Hawkins blog and started reading. That was what did it for me.

    I came to morlafag and stayed for the Schadefreüde.
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  28. Anonymous Member

    Thanks for sharing, Anon.

    Hey, you never know. ;)
  29. xenubarb Member

    Agreed. I'm beginning to think people look better without all that crap stuck to their faces. What do you Teegeeackians call it? Make-up?
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  30. moarxenu Member

    [quote="xenubarb, post: 1836915"
    Now they know who has the plans for global takeover, and it's not Dr. Freud.[/quote]

    O RLY?


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