Egypt goes berserk

Discussion in 'Freedom of Expression' started by Anonymous, Jan 25, 2011.

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  1. Rockyj Member

    Lets not derail or even try to go there but Bush & Cheney military war machine are fuckbuckets!
    Sadly, Obama has been sucked into supporting the war but it's my hope he's a lesser evil & by no means comparable to the Bush & Cheney families & their sic BS against human beings out of greed, hate, fear & most of all because they think they are better than others!

  2. Stickman Member

    All I can say to this is, "wow!"
    Egypt has dropped a digital iron curtain over its Internet. So WikiLeaks’ fans are using an analog tool to smuggle the secret-spilling site’s latest scandals into the country: fax machines.

    On Friday afternoon, the loose hacker group Anonymous began a campaign to fax thousands of copies of WikiLeaks’ latest missives–a series of State Department cables revealing human rights abuses under Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak and tacit U.S. backing for his administration–to Egyptian numbers.

    Since Thursday night, Egypt has blocked its four largest Internet service providers, Link Egypt, Vodafone/Raya, Telecom Egypt, and Etisalat Misr. But landlines remain connected–and so, Anonymous believes, do landline-connected fax machines. “We stand up for the little guy as well as fighting the government,” one source within Anonymous writes to me. “We believe the people need to see the truth, which is why we’re faxing locations in Egypt (especially schools) with copies of a relevant WikiLeaks cable; due to the majority of Egyptian Internet being down, the public cannot access this vital information.”

    On a crowdsourced document that the group uses for planning, members listed fax numbers of half a dozen Egyptian schools as their first targets. “The idea is to distribute the information to students, who can then share it with others,” says another source within Anonymous. “Right now they need to know that the police cannot be trusted and the wikileaks cables are just more proof of that.”

    Update: As a commenter notes, another activist group calling itself Telecomix is also faxing messages to Egypt, offering its own Internet access points to anyone in the country with a dial-up modem. They’ve also announced they’re monitoring Ham radio frequencies to pick up messages from any Egyptians who want to broadcast messages.

    Update again: Now Anonymous and Telecomix seem to have joined forces to offer Egyptians Internet access via foreign landlines. They’ve listed dozens of numbers that offer connections in this document.

    Just what impact Anonymous’ WikiLeak faxes might have isn’t clear, given that thousands of young Egyptians are already on the streets and experiencing human rights abuses firsthand–not sitting in their offices waiting by the fax machine. But just as WikiLeaks may have helped inspire Tunisia’s non-violent ouster of its ruler Ben Ali earlier this month, the latest WikiLeaks documents could help dispel any remaining illusions Egyptians have about their government and its police force, which frequently tortures and brutalizes suspects and dissidents, according to the leaked cables.

    The campaign also shows that Anonymous may be evolving its political tools, after campaigns that used denial-of-service attacks to take down websites of Mastercard, Paypal, and some Tunisian government sites, and led to the arrest of five suspected participants in those attacks around the U.K. earlier Friday. The Egyptian government, after all, just performed a massive denial of service attack on its entire Internet. Anonymous, for a change, is working to provide, rather than deny information.

    Anonymous’s fax tactics hark back to the 1989 Tiananmen Square protests in Beijing, when student protestors used faxes to communicate with Chinese-Americans in the U.S. and get out word of the bloody crackdown. In the analog world that Egypt’s government has imposed on its citizens, that tool may be as effective as ever.
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  3. parvent Member

    That looks like Miss Bloodybutt's prolapsed rectum all dressed up on a plate of lettuce and tomatoes...Only hers was the size of a wiener.
  4. Rockyj Member

    There is absolutely no logical reasoning to kill other human beings just because they've been programmed to think differently then us!
  5. Anonymous Member

    Yeah, Obama was sucked in to those policies he kept/expanded, it's still amateur hour. Someday he may learn to act like he's the real president.

    Dubya and Condi discussed moving to promote democracy in Egypt, et al. It was the lifers/griefers embedded in the Secretary of State office who vehemently opposed the idea proposed by the *new* colored-boss-lady .

    Hey Rocky, are you familiar with a guy named Yuri Bezmenov?
  6. Anonymous Member

    also...."Constitutional Representative Republic."

    Knowledge is free, can't be that cheap.
  7. Anonymous Member

    al-jazeera: eyewitness report, group of thugs were shooting into crowds indiscriminately killing several people, vigilante group drove them off. the people initially called Al-Jazeera because they had called other reporters and nobody knew what to do with the bodies
  8. Anonymous Member

    so I'm in the irc trying to tell them I had a conversation on skpe with a long time friend who is Israeli and in big position...without giving too much..and we got in a fight for the first time ever because he said they are backing Mubarak and that no way will Mubarak step down, they are trying to wait the protesters out keeping M in hiding until the protesters give up...then I offer to copy the skype conversation and the Israelie mod kicked me out and banned my IP. so who is running that piece of shit IRC to ban for telling the truth and trying to warn...there are three of us here using same wireless connection too. WTF is this shit? What Israel is doing is wrong and people should know. I thought ANON was about no secrets, but the mod in there is Israeli and he got mad and said I was lying but I am not.
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  9. parvent Member

    We should support our brothers and sisters in Egypt on their trek to freedom!
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  11. Anonymous Member

    That is the IRC channel I was on opegypt...I could not believe it, the mod said he was Israeli, that I was lying, and he booted me. I went back and said I will gladly copy the skype convo to prove it and he booted me again and banned the IP. NO TF, however the truth is the truth and he didn't want me to prove it. My friend even accused me of being brainwashed by the Muslim Brotherhood..I was like LOL WUT? He said Mubarak will not fall, Israel will not allow it. This makes me RAGE the corruption behind the scenes. Mods here please don't out me, send me a PM if you want me to verify what I am saying I will be happy to, that Skype conversation was enough for me I do not keep corruption and gloating secret when it hurts the efforts of freedom the Egyptian people are fighting for. since when do you get booted in IRC for giving information that you learn that can help? NOt all anons are young kids with no connections! honor that. information is free, knowledge is free...but only if it's what you want to hear?
  12. Booboo.Craze Member

    I just got booted/banned from all AnonOps on irc since multiple logins from the same IP were in the chat.. I PM'd the Mod explaining there are a few of us here on different computers ignored me and said kicking Clones...I explained we are no clones but still now can't participate.. There are two ops going that I am part of and can't participate now!!
  13. Booboo.Craze Member

    Kicked from OpEgypt and OpAlgeria and now banned from all AnonOps!!
  14. Booboo.Craze Member

    Master-IT1 was the nic that kicked and banned.
  15. mojo Member

  16. Anonymous Member

    tried to go on got Closing Link: [*******] Z:Lined ( lol no)
  17. Anonymous Member

    sorry tried to go on irc*
  18. Anonymous Member

    Dude, edit that post it has your IP in it...
  19. Anonymous Member

    star out the number after words closing link...
  20. shaydhein Member

    "Employs censorship as strategic means of controlling their citizenry"?? >>>>> they are not "controlling" anyone here. They pissed to many people off and now this thing is way too damn big for the people to just sit back and be raped by their country. The whole world supports them! Yay for the people!
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  22. Sickx Member

    Mubarak moving to Sharm el Sheikh - underhanded. If the army decide to back him now, and civilians/tourists are injured, he has protestors to blame. With such an uprising, there is no way he should still be in any position of power, at all.
  23. Shinythings Member

    or restart your router...
  24. Anonymous Member

    Israeli people might be quite afraid with the developments in Egypt. They might feel it threatens their existence, and they might be right. Scared people do silly stuff. Let it be.
  25. Sickx Member

    Far more than 100
    Estimates for one isolated location 500 m from the square in Cairo are 50+ in 5 days. Imagine how many more in such locations, and the even greater numbers in field and general hospitals.
  26. MeatPuppet Member

    From the blue grass of America, we all support the peoples of Egypt in their quest for freedom. Lets take a moment to reflect and to walk in their shoes:

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  27. DeathHamster Member

    If fax machines work, why not use modems? (Old but not as ancient as fax.)

    A distributed system like Usenet or Fidonet (only modernized) would be good for this sort of situation. As along as one person could get a feed (or many people part of a feed), it would keep going, if slowly.
  28. Anonymous Member

    State television is urging viewers not to watch Al Jazeera. And now low flying fighter jets are trying to intimidate the protesters (and failing).
  29. Anonymous Member

    I predict a bloodbath for tonight.
  30. Anonymous Member

    Yeah they could just drop by WalMart and buy a cheap one. Oh wait...
  31. Anonymous Member

    People use still use modems to send/receive faxes with their PCs. They can buy those in the same place that they buy fax machines.

    I take it that the net is still up inside of Egypt, just no routes in or out?
  32. Anonymous Member

    I'm starting to get pretty worried about this. Is there anything at all that can be done? The only think I can suggest is making a facebook page, something like "We don't want bloodshed on Egypt" and try to get it to millions of people. Does not sound very effective to me...
  33. Anonymous Member

    I don't have any special information, but just judging by the media reports, there may be a strategy of withdrawing infrastructure and trying to wait long enough until chaos leads to such a desire for structure and 'law and order' so as to turn popular support against the protesters.
    Mubarak has nothing to win from such a bloodbath -western support would most likely stop the moment this happened- and the military certainly doesn't. The military is popular by all accounts in the media, of course it has to follow orders, but it has no interest in going down with Mubarak or to turn against the people.
  34. Anonymous Member

    Hold me tight anon
  35. Anonymous Member

    i use a couple of IP altering progs, it wouldnt give anything to anybody
  36. al- jazeera- protestors are using signs written in english, women are becoming actively involved and seen in the protests. on the bad side of the news the BM leadership has been sighted amongst the protestors
  37. LocalSP Member

    I'm just going to leave this here:

    Inequality In America Is Worse Than In Egypt, Tunisia Or Yemen

    By Washington's Blog

    January 29, 2011 "Washington's Blog" - -
    Egyptian, Tunisian and Yemeni protesters all say that inequality is one of the main reasons they're protesting.
    However, the U.S. actually has much greater inequality than in any of those countries.
    Specifically, the "Gini Coefficient" - the figure economists use to measure inequality - is higher in the U.S.


    Gini Coefficients are like golf - the lower the score, the better (i.e. the more equality).
    According to the CIA World Fact Book, the U.S. is ranked as the 42nd most unequal country in the world, with a Gini Coefficient of 45.
    In contrast:
    • Tunisia is ranked the 62nd most unequal country, with a Gini Coefficient of 40.
    • Yemen is ranked 76th most unequal, with a Gini Coefficient of 37.7.
    • And Egypt is ranked as the 90th most unequal country, with a Gini Coefficient of around 34.4.
    And inequality in the U.S. has soared in the last couple of years, since the Gini Coefficient was last calculated, so it is undoubtedly currently much higher.
    So why are Egyptians rioting, while the Americans are complacent?
    Well, Americans - until recently - have been some of the wealthiest people in the world, with most having plenty of comforts (and/or entertainment) and more than enough to eat.
    But another reason is that - as Dan Ariely of Duke University and Michael I. Norton of Harvard Business School demonstrate - Americans consistently underestimate the amount of inequality in our nation.
    As William Alden wrote last September:

    Americans vastly underestimate the degree of wealth inequality in America, and we believe that the distribution should be far more equitable than it actually is, according to a new study.
    Or, as the study's authors put it: "All demographic groups -- even those not usually associated with wealth redistribution such as Republicans and the wealthy -- desired a more equal distribution of wealth than the status quo."
    The report ... "Building a Better America -- One Wealth Quintile At A Time" by Dan Ariely of Duke University and Michael I. Norton of Harvard Business School ... shows that across ideological, economic and gender groups, Americans thought the richest 20 percent of our society controlled about 59 percent of the wealth, while the real number is closer to 84 percent.

    More at the link
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  38. Anonymous Member

    ^^^ My guess is thats not because there is ultrapoor people in the US, but a minority ultramegarich people.

    EEUU, people way richer than the richer Egyptian
    Egypt, people way poorer than the poorer American

    Just a guess
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  39. shaydhein Member

    That would make some sence, tho!
  40. Shinythings Member

    From the guardian:

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