Discussion in 'Freedom of Expression' started by Anonymous, Jan 25, 2011.
I was talking about the Tutankhamanonymous, not LOIC.
Just reported on here ^^^that Christains protected Muslims while they were praying!
Ya think young people get it! And its old farts that are stuck in a world of hate, racism, bigotry & fear?
This is scarier than the Patriot Act. How can we help stop it?
That is fucking awesome.
From the guardian.uk:
By 3pm local time protesters from Giza had fought their way through to Midan Dokki, less than a mile from central Tahir Square. There the riot police had also been forced to withdraw, leaving two security trucks and a handful of isolated conscripts behind. The young policemen were surrounded by a 100-strong crowd. A minority of the crowd made to attack the stranded policemen, but the majority held them back.
One policeman gestured desperately at the throng around him. "I am not afraid of you … I am afraid of losing my job and ruining my family," he shouted. "Mubarak is in his castle and has abandoned you to your death. Give him up and join us!" a woman screamed in reply, before the police were given safe passage back to their station by the crowd.
I think its amazing how the protesters are helping each other. kuddos!
Funny, this is the place I get the most updated new on the situation. It might change if the internet keep down though.
Sounds like Mubarak thinks it will all be better if he names a new government
Mubarak's speech tl;dr
Hopefully the Egyptian people won't just fall in line with this new government. Anyone can see that it's a sham... Mubarak is still in power.
He threw the government under the bus and blamed everything on them not mentioning that it was a government HE PUT IN PLACE.I am relatively certain that his speech will only add fuel to the fire.
The Egyptian people are still in the streets, still protesting.
Given that the Egyptians have been empowered due to the events in Tunisia, and given that the Tunisian people weren't prepared to accept a similar deal.....
Can't see this being accepted.
That's funny coming from you.
I very much doubt that the Egyptian protesters will settle for anything less than the permanent departure, in some form, of Mubarak.
Obama and Kerry are saying crap now, essentially saying "The Egyptian people want a future, but we think Mubarak should still be in power."
They're bigger dicks than Dick Cheney.
Anonymous, we are with the Egyptian people today. This thread is full of our support.
The mangy creature called "Herro" is a wreched pet that will not go away and because it is so pathetic no one wants to be the one to kill it.
I see Obama will support both Egyptian government AND Egyptian people, basically leaving outcomes open.
By the way, on my live feed world-wide screen-saver satellite view ("Earthdesk', which is friggin' awesome) I see the lights of North Egypt which are usually white from the Mediterranean down the whole Nile, tonight are orange, so the fires actually show up from space. Wow.
Make no mistake. We have no communications unless it is allowed by governments and coopted corporations. Look at Katrina in New Orleans, cells phones, phone, internet, and police and fire radios went out...nothing. The Army Signal Corp and Ham Radio hobbyists through the Salvation Army had to come to the rescue.
That's why I am a Ham radio operator, with a motorhome, and a gas generator. I encourage other to do the same and establish radio packet networks fashioned on the Army MARS model.
Sounds like Barak thinks the US constitution is active in Egypt? "Freedom of assembly"????
Al Jazeera has a good article about Obama (written before his recent speech):
oh boy.... I'm reading in some blogs, about a random guy from Chile who raises that the communications were blocked by an event of extraterrestrial encounter in Egypt (he was right before about it will find certain secret chambers in the pyramids) but this is too much...
obviously i wan to belive. but c'mon people are dying there
Many parts are edible, just sayin...
*googles 'Earth desk'*
fuck, it's £15: http://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/earthdesk/id402295648?mt=12
screenshots or it didn't happen. (can you really see a livestream of these lights!?!)
Not sure what the issue is? Is it inflation of food prices? Or, is this about establishing a theocracy? Tell us, before you recruit us.
uh, dunno. Wise Beard Man told us to
Herro is just butthurt that Anon has succeeded in doing what his cult could not, pulling down a government. Looks like another one may be in the bag soon. Good job Egyptanons!
I don't see this Egyptian uprising as a theocratic based motivation.
It looks like the people are protesting as a human community that is exploding under the pressure of tyranny of some kinds.
Various news media have confirmed that there is no leader apparent or active in the protesting.
We shall see where it goes, but Egypt could be the first Anonymocracy.
Imagine if there was worldwide wireless internet, everywhere. Or, more realistically - like, a peer-to-peer broadcast network, via wifi
Egypt and $cientology - both totalitarian regimes
Egypt = Anonymous? zOMG, metaphor
^^^ I posted a video, I think it is on the third page of this thread. On it a political analyst said the revolution was taken forward mostly by anonymous people. They seem to want democracy, and free elections.
Some obvious groups are trying to hijack this, and they might or might no be sucessful. But it must be the egyptian people who decide that. If the outcome of freeing Egypt from Mubarak's dictatorship is the installment of a muslim theocracy, so be it. We will just have to deal with it, hopefully we will able to understand each other.
I do not like fundamentalism. (gee, I looking forward for Everybody Draw Mohamed 2011!), but I like Mubarak's 30 long dictatorship less. And I have high hopes on the wisdom of the Egyptian people. I hope they will not change a dictatoship for another.
But if they choose too, I'm afraid they have a right to choose...
Hmmm. If those Islamists have the same OSA as Scientologists, I'd want to know the whys and wherefores before joining in against Israel and the USA without the specifics.
http://www.xericdesign.com/earthdesk.php Free trial
Worth every penny IMHO.
Sure no Ayatollah stirred this all up?
Sey, be specific about why Mubarak is bad. Specifics please. No religioso babble. My opinion is that Iran would be better off today under the Shaw...for example.
Cause he's in power 30 years?
But hey, I do not like that, but that's not relevant really. The thing the Egyptian people what him out. That's reason enough.
Will they be worse after that? I think they have a right to choose their future (and even to make mistakes about that). They don't want to be worse, thats for sure. Still, they have a right to choose, just as have you and I. Nor we or anybody should decide for them.
It falls on you to educate yourself and on us not to speak for the Egyptians, but I'll tell you my view. The Muslim Brotherhood have the most to gain from these multiple infitadas, but it's not their revolution. Social media are allowing free speech (when the internet is on), but the core of what I hear the Tunisians, Egyptians, and others are saying is, "we're hungry, we're broke, we have little say in our lives and it sucks."
If you look at Arab history, there have been a number of bread infitadas since Egypt's in 1977 and since the 80s, there's been an unspoken "bread compact" between the dictators and the people, the elites keeping food prices reasonable via subsidies, especially bread, or face getting tossed. Egypt is the largest importer of wheat in the world and this year the climate scorched Russia's crop, flooded Australia's was somehow unkind to Canada's and the US has the world's only current wheat surplus, raising the bulk commodity price by 75%. Corn has gone up 50%. Added to this, Egypt's crops fried this summer (as desertification continues) and they lost as much as 60% of their crops to the heat.
While our Arab & African peeps are starving, the biggest food conglomerates, ADM and Cargill, are reporting record profits. They control vast amounts of grain and are profiteering like nobody's business. I haven't searched wikileaks for ADM or Cargill memos, but I would assume they would read much like the Shell in Nigeria cables. There is enough food in the world, but we are in a serious food crisis because of distribution and pricing and corruption. Those pendejos are getting rich while people starve.
Not to say that if Mubarak had given the masses loaves and fishes he'd necessarily still have a shot at being President a week from now, but his chances would have been greatly increased.
Posted Jan 12th 2011 1:30PM by Connie Madon
Filed under: Commodities, Agriculture
When you think commodities, you think Cargill. Cargill is the largest U.S. private company. It is one of the world's largest commodity processors and traders. Cargill plays both the cash and futures sides of the markets. It buys cash crops from farmers and processes them, and at the same time hedge and trades commodity futures. Being able to operate in both cash and futures markets places them number one. Competitors include Archer Daniels Midland (ADM) and Bunge (BG.)
The large harvests and strong export markets worked in Cargill's favor. It tripled its profits to $1.49 billion in the quarter ended November 30, from $489 million a year ago, as reported in the Wall Street Journal.
Cargill bought a majority stake in Mosaic (MOS) the fertilizer company, which added to its profits. Excluding Mosaic, Cargill earned $832 million, up from $422 million. In addition Cargill has units in financial services and steel making.
Worldwide food demand is growing. Look for grain prices to remain high this year. That being the case, these stocks should also do well. Archer Daniels Midland is trading at $32.57, up 36 cents. Bunge is trading at $67.5325, up .9525 and Mosaic is trading at $77.87, up $1.73
Not for me. All I see is a bunch of angry idiots on my TV screen. I don't know what the majority of the people want.
Remember, that fat Iraqi and his buddies that pulled down the statue of Sadam, were later identified as CIA operatives.
You don't think Iranian Ayatollahs would play similar tricks?
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