David Love vs Narconon Trois-Rivieres - Certification Denial

Discussion in 'Narconon' started by Intelligence, Oct 1, 2011.

  1. Intelligence Member

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  3. Anonymous Member

    The topic in this thread is : David Love vs Narconon Trois-Rivieres - Certification Denial

    Problem officer?
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  4. yoshiyoyo Member

    they may have changed this or i made a mistake but to cover my buns ill post this correction The average 28 day program has the success rate of about 10-25% this is a failure rate of 75-90%. oh yes OSA i know your watching oxox
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  5. Stealth Member

    Narconon Trois-Riviers will NEVER meet these rquirements!!!

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  7. Pique Member

    very nice
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  8. Intelligence Member

    Just finished a LONG Skype call with Trois-Rivieres contact who knows certain politicians
    concerning this matter. The above visit/meeting date will be confirmed early next week.

    Unless unexpected issues arise "we" WILL be in Trois-Rivieres within 9 days and will make
    some noise like never before.

    Not planning to chain myself to government entance doors on this visit and I think after this
    visit, it will NOT be neccessary. Will be providing Dox to Media, (both Press and TV) prior to visit.

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  9. Intelligence Member

    David Love is in the "Zone" tonight and loving every minute:)

    "This is "Far Out" and pretty "Groovy" stuff were doing right now man,,,. LOL

    We are going to "Rock Around the Clock" this entire weekend, and as my Daughter told me after she left Narconon - - "Kick some Ass, Dad" - - she knew I would begin kicking and kicking and kicking, until "Justice was Served" to ALL who suffered. So, I play this video many times, as I sit and work through the night on evidence documents. This one and some good "Ol' Time Rock N' Roll", like Led Zeplin, Doors, Hendrix, Deep Purple and Janis Joplin - - many who I've seen in person. I LOVE Rock N' Roll - - still an Ol' Hippy at heart,.., LOL, but according to my kids, "Eccentric" at times,..., LOL

    I am who I am and "they" know who I am - - a Royal pain in "their" ASS!!! :):):)

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  10. moarxenu Member

    For you, Dave. Happy Chanoniversary!

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  11. Intelligence Member

    Tx, my Dear Friend - - I ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT!!!

    Just finished my speech (4:02am), for the Lisa Protest at an ORG tomorrow and then I'm off to grab a nap
    for a couple hours - - after I listen to this ^^^^^ song of course:):):)

    We're going to "Rock N' Roll" tomorrow and kick some serious DM Arse,..., LOL:)

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  12. Love it. Also, rock'n'roll has the power to make people happy. Totally in contrast to the grim serious waste of time and lives of that cult known as NN/CCHR/Criminon/ABLE/LRH/etc.

    This is for you. Hail! Hail!

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  13. Intelligence Member

    Emails and Pm messages are filling my inboxes today,.., LOL - - just had some
    more nails to tap into the closing coffin - - thank you. The Health Minstry will
    see these Monday morning:)

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  14. Anonymous Member

    (3) hold an addiction counselling certificate awarded by a recognized university and have a minimum of 7 years relevant experience in the field of drug addiction or pathological gambling.
    O.C. 569-2010, s. 20.
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  15. Intelligence Member

    Just sent additional information off to Health Ministry, Certification Committee, and
    Human Rights Commission concerning the certification process and possible questionable
    practices recently by NN TR.

    Was extremely busy this weekend writing article for the Examiner, but all done and published now
    and back on track on NN TR issues.

    I have advised government authorities about another submission being made this week of utmost
    importance to the certification committee and Human Rights Commission. The latter being the credibilty
    of Andre Ahern and of concern to the Committee about imminent health risks to patients being denied
    certain prescribed medications to further NN TR's agenda to Audit student Preclears without them
    being on ANY medication that would hinder the Auditing Process in Objectives.

    Compiling documents over next few days to address the aforementioned matters; especially the credibilty
    of persons presenting evidence to Committee and what the hidden agendas are.

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  17. Xenu Is Lord Member

    At the end of this video they say there program is completely drug free, who are they to decide to interfere with a doctors prescription. But more revolting is how they use these people. Real sobriety takes years of hard work and struggle. These people are dried out and feeling emotionally high but that won't last. So the cult sticks a camera in their face to get a emotional testimonial (using these people). They won't be there with that camera when 80+ % of these people are turned loose to face the world and crash. Nor will they pull these videos out of respect. The people in these videos are victims on so many levels.

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  18. Xenu Is Lord Member

    Here is some backstory from the cult side.
    Written on MARCH 21, 2012 AT 10:48 AM by ANDRE AHERN

    Narconon Trois-Rivières and Québec Accreditation Law 56

    In June 2010, Law number 56 came into being in Québec, Canada. This law states that all inpatient rehabilitation treatments (either for drugs or gambling) must be accredited by the Ministère de la Santé et des Services Sociaux (MSSS). Therefore, in June 2010, Narconon Trois-Rivieres began the process of accreditation with the regional MSSS.
    Mr. André Ahern submitting the accreditation documents for Narconon Trois-Rivières in June 2011
    This process has 5 steps.
    The first step consists of registering a request for accreditation. The Board of Directors of Narconon Trois-Rivieres approved this request and it was formally sent in June 2010.
    The second step consists of putting together all of the documents and evidences showing that Narconon Trois-Rivieres is complying with the relevant articles contained in Law 56. This document, when fully completed, contained a total of 750 pages and was submitted to the regional MSSS. This was done on June 29th, 2011.
    The third step consists of an evaluation of the center by the Conseil Québécois d’Agrément (CQA) in order to ensure that we do adhere to the Law number 56. This process starts with the CQA studying the aforementioned document, which they did. In August 2011, they sent Narconon Trois-Rivières a letter informing us that thedocument was fully accepted. Then 3 observers came on the 8th and 9th of February 2012. They visited the whole of of the premises and interviewed several staff members and students. From this observation, a report will be put together and sent to us and to a CQA expert committee. We should receive this report at the beginning of May 2012. This committee will then present, in September 2012, recommendations regarding our accreditation.
    Step four goes as follows: According to the recommendations, Narconon Trois-Rivieres will have to correct anything that would not be in conformity with Law 56. We then send the evidence that we did correct these points to the CQA, at which point they will publish their last recommendations regarding our accreditation and send it to the regional MSSS.
    With all of this accomplished, we now get to step 5 which is the first certification. At this point we will be accredited but could receive surprise inspections at any time to ensure that we are still compliant with Law 56. This whole process, if all goes according to schedule, should be finished between September and December of 2012.
    The executives and staff of Narconon Trois-Rivières are excited to be part of this accreditation process as it guarantees even better service to our residents and will facilitate the accomplishment of our goal of a drug free society.

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  19. Xenu Is Lord Member

    This is interesting

    Meeting and surpassing accepted standards is a pattern set by example by Narconon Trois-Riviere’s mother Flagship, Narconon Arrowhead in Oklahoma State, USA. The Oklahoma Department of Mental Health and Substance Abuse (ODMHSAS) has awarded full certification to Narconon Arrowhead’s drug free withdrawal program. Narconon Arrowhead is in 100% compliance with the standards laid out by the state for certification of non-medical detoxification, as verified by Oklahoma`s inspectors.
    In addition to the ODMHSAS certification, the drug and alcohol rehabilitation program of Narconon Arrowhead has been accredited by CARF, the Commission on Accreditation of Rehabilitation Facilities. This prestigious and trusted International non-profit accreditor of health & human services has certified Narconon Arrowhead since 1991, when Arrowhead was first licensed in Oklahoma State.
    Narconon Arrowhead, as well as being the model alcohol and drug rehabilitation centre for Narconon centre’s world-wide, is the international training centre where any other group can send a trainee for learning and apprenticing and certification to deliver the Narconon program.
    Narconon Arrowhead CEO Gary W. Smith said, “My center’s goal has always been to meet or exceed state and federal treatment standards because the individuals that we help are the ones that benefit from a higher quality care in the end.”
    Narconon Trois-Rivieres has the same purpose: Meeting or exceeding Quebec treatment standards means that the individuals who do Narconon’s program are who in the end win.
    The staff thank all who are helping achieve this goal.

    Article by Brad Z Melnychuk

    Brad Z Melnychuk first made his débuts into the non-profit sector when he assumed the position of Executive Director Association for Better Living and Education (ABLE) Canada in 1996. Shortlythereafter he was training tutors in the city of Toronto by running workshops through the Toronto Literacy Project, a volunteer group he started in 1997. He has contributed on many facets thereafter. He spent three years as a Committee Member of the City of Toronto Board of Health Drug Prevention Grants Review Panel. For five years Brad Melnychuk was a very active member of the Community Police Liaison Committee, Toronto Police Services 52 Division. From his position in ABLE Canada he is a consultant of Canadian Narconon Drug Rehabilitation and Prevention Organizations (such as Narconon Trois-Rivieres, one of the biggest drug rehabilitation facilities in Canada) and Criminon groups; and a consultant of Applied Scholastics Licensed Education centres. Brad Melnychuk has a history of rolling up his sleeves and being directly involved in his own network, and outside of it. He has travelled at nights in Toronto street vans, assisting in feeding the homeless under bridges and on the sidewalks, and dark alleys of Toronto. Brad has helped addicts come off the streets or out of the courts; connected them to family and got them arrived in rehab. He has personally counselled recovering addicts, tutored children of middle-class families and also youth in jail. He has trained trainers and established after-school programs, surveyed the homeless; and on the other hand has met the last two prime ministers of Canada. He was one of the contributors to provide first-hand evidence to the Special Committee on Non-Medical Use of Drugs in Ottawa, whose function was to set the drug strategy for Canada. Mr Melnychuk has delivered lectures/workshops on grant writing, on how to study, on drug free withdrawal, on ethics/morals and other topics. Mr Melnychuk has fund-raised and ran public events. He is a hobby writer and home-cook. Brad was raised on a dairy-farm in rural Manitoba and graduated from Stonewall Collegiate, a town north of Winnipeg. His primary religion is Scientology. He also studies Islam and the Bible – both old and new testaments. He has experienced the spiritual peace of Native Talk Circles. He claims a broadened understanding of life from each. He loves his wife and family. He commonly works from Toronto, Montreal, Trois-Rivieres, Vancouver, Edmonton and Winnipeg.
    Read 13 articles by Brad Z Melnychuk

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  20. Intelligence Member

    "Oh'-oh', Dave yelled a Success Rate question over at me - - better GTF out of here",..., LOL :)

    Montreal ORG Protest recently.
    Brad Melnychuk
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  21. Intelligence Member

    April promises to be a "Kick-Ass" month in exposing the Scientology rehab centers, "Narconon" - - not just in Canada, but in a few countries where Scientology-Narconon misrepresentation, abuse, and fraud has crossed over legal boundries, exploiting vulnerable addicts and their distraught loved ones. Additional websites are under construction at this very minute - - an EXPOSE is coming like never seen. Ex-Narconon victims from around the globe will tell it like it is. A "Scam and Ripoff".
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  24. xenubarb Member

    If anyone here wants to work on NN socal, I work better in a group. Left to my own devices, I tend to wander away to watch bugs in the yard.

    Trouble focusing, I haz it! You know I write a kick-ass letter though. I think DL has copies of all the NN material I have here. Anyone wanna roll on this with me?
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  27. Hello
    Can you tell me who I can get a hold of about being riped off by these people badly. Is there a group who are fighting to get their money back that I can get a hold of. I have never felt so scamed. Please let me know, I sent my son there they never said a word about getting shut down we paid thousands and three weeks later the staff walked out and left the clients fend for themselfs. My so was left to look after a bunch of drug and drumk people for the whole night..WOW we sure would love to talk to others about this.

    Thanks Barb,
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  28. Anonymous Member

    It's not wise to put a traceable email address up for Scientology to hunt, unless you've never been to Redmond, WA
  29. hushpuppy Member

    Welcome to WWP Barb! So sorry your son and yourself were scammed by Narconon - your son was hopefully amongst the last batch of NN victims ever in Canada (The Calgary con is shaky as well I think? - and just no fucking way they will be allowed to relocate to Toronto imo)

    And anon gives good advice re protecting your email address - props to him/her for posting in thread, and also for reporting post. I removed your details for your own protection Barb.

    I suggest you create a throw-away email addy and register with WWP - that way you can use our internal PM system, which is untraceable to anyone not invited to the conversation. You don't have to participate in any discussions here, you can just make one post as you did above - but with a request to PM you instead of emailing you.

    I hope your son can find the help he needs. I also hope you will find peace <3
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  31. Intelligence Member

    This ^^^ message was even sent to Tony O:) - - I then sent him the message "kick some ass."

    This^^^ > Relapsed after completing NN and worked as Ethics Officer while living
    with Senior Ethics Officer who did a NN TR Repair after subject BLEW back to BC with
    the person who is now her husband. Continued in Relapse in BC. (have emails and recorded calls).

    Daughter has not made one loan payment EVER. I have made every one of her loan payments
    directly into her bank account for the loan payment.

    Even though my daughter wrote these untruths to the NBC Producer, clearly it was OSA
    motivated as a Dead Agent attack. Took me several hours to prove, with documents, that
    the letter was a lie. We think we know why, but we'll see in due course.

    "... allowed David to use his enemployment Cheque...." > is completely false. When I arrived
    at NN TR, my wallet and all my ID was taken away. The Senior Ethics Officer asked me for my
    password to my Bank Debit Card and asked for my Employment Insurance Login Code and
    Password so NN could fill out my online Report every two weeks. Then they would retreive the
    funds directly from my Bank Account where Employment Insurance would Direct Deposit.

    Last week I spoke to a Federal Agent for EI and received instructions to go to the nearest Police
    Station. Apparently, NN Staff commited intentional online Fraud by lying when they filled
    out my Report. NN Staff stated to Employment Insurance that I was "Ready-Willing-and Able"
    to work. If the Report was filled out correct, being in a Rehab, is not "able" to work.

    I could post volumes here, but must save some details for potential Court Trial(S).

    The Quebec Provincial government has been informed about this intentional fraud and may
    review potential charges of Fraud.

    The Media and Governments are now wary of any documents provided by the Cult against me.
    One media even suggested some dox were made up in a Dead Agent scheme.

    Even though what my daughter attempted to do, I still Love her and will refrain from posting her
    Name, even though she has already outed herself with the Libelous letter. When I have time,
    I will seek Legal advice to have the letter retracted,...., and,....., we'll see?

    Frying-Pan is full, so must get back to urgent work that the Government Investigator requested
    of me yesterday:)
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  32. So sorry that you have to deal with this type of betrayal. The toxic tentacles reach far, it seems. The fact that they are trying to hurt you means that you are on the right and just path. I'm so sorry about this....
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  33. Random guy Member

    Actually, the letter being out there is testimony to the lengths the cult would go to to stop you. It is one of the worst examples of the cults behaviour, and as such it is perhaps more damaging if left standing as it is.

    I really feel sorry for your daughter. It must have hurt her like hell to be pressured into this shit.
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  34. JohnnyRUClear Member

    Love (all of them) is stronger than OSA. <3
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  35. Internetzin Member

    Your child may walk away from you, but more often than not that child will return to hold your hand. So sorry for both you and your daughter.
  36. Anonymous Member

    Unethically? I'd say illegally.

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