So reading War and Peace in a burning house is neither good or bad - it just is? Checking my underwater breathing skills is something to try? You are obviously not with the reasoning ability of a child, and your debating challenges should be retired until you recover, unless you find that confronting your lack of common sense to be transforming in a positive way. One of the big selling points in the cult is power over MEST, which would make sitting in a fire or breathing underwater possible. After controlling the Mass in those exercises, you could do what Ron spoke of: knocking a man's hat off at 50 feet or read a book two countries away. Or, watch a train on Venus! On a more serious note, bringing down the cult is fueled by the inhumanity and crimes of the cult. The moonbat part is just funny, so most anons actually enjoy that to some degree, simply because it's funny. That said, it can also be painful to hear about (read) to some, because to those who have been there, they understand so clearly how damaged you still are - and they remember how they once thought while in the cult. I agree that ESMB Forums is a good place for you to join, and get some feedback that will be of value to you. I don't know why you're here, or what you hope to accomplish, but that's my suggestion after reading your posts. Recovery will be a long road, and it seems like you are not yet aware of the damage you carry now. ESMB can be a very positive experience for those who have recently left the cult. Good luck, David.