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DAMNING NEWS CO$ CAUGHT IN HUGE LIE WITH NEW VIDEOS ON CO$.ORG - READ!!!

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  1. antonymous2 Member

    Re: DAMNING NEWS ON CO$ RIGHT FROM ARS!!!

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    This is the retired previous Nigerian High Commissioner to the UK Christopher Kolade. He is a powerful figure in African business and politics, and carries some sort of title since he is referred to as “His Excellency”. I suspect he doesn't know what his image is being used for and would be very displeased to find out, but I can't find current contact info. He appears to value integrity and ethics highly – he currently serves on the “Convention on Business Integrity”

    Can't find any links to CoS on a superficial browsing. He is not a Scientologist - he actually won a few Christian honors in the 80's. He is wearing a (4-pointed) cross on his lapel in many photos.

    EDIT: He is a director on the board of Cornerstone Insurance PLC in Lagos. There is contact info for the head office but no direct contact info. Any Africanons?
  2. Donovan Cook Member

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    When you guys are done "pulling a coca cola" with this video, we need to post a "coca cola" reply video, don't you think?

    sorry, am at work or I would love to help. I will definitely help disseminate.

    Keep up the awesome work guys.
  4. Anonxmous Member

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    Is anyone capable of knocking up a quick website+database for this? Or maybe some wiki-based template approach?

    I'm thinking an initial summary page with all the pictures thumbnailed, and overlay graphics for real/not real and prior scientology connections.

    Clicking through to individual pages with
    - Photo
    - Title
    - Transcript
    - Which video, and number of seconds in
    - Name if known
    - Title real/unknown/fake [+references]
    - Prior scientology association Scientologist/Prior Support/None known [+references]
    - Research notes / other info
    - Quote or comments in response by the person featured
  5. Xenu's Thong Member

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    http://www.gomlab.com/eng/
    GOMPlayer will do it, much more efficiently too.
  6. 213 Member

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    Good idea!
  7. Lrononymous Member

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    Without a doubt! Anonymous Delivers!
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    "Good idea, oh Lord!"

    "OF COURSE IT'S A GOOD IDEA. Where was I? Oh yes...

    ARTHUR! KING OF THE BRITONS..."
  9. Re: DAMNING NEWS ON CO$ RIGHT FROM ARS!!!

    Can I just take a moment to say that you boys & girls restore my faith in the human race?
    Ok, well. That.
  10. AnonMomAnon Member

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    ^^THIS.

    ditto from me!
  11. Daywatch Member

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    anyone hear back from The Boy Scouts of America yet?
  12. Dubber Member

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    It's Hamilton Green
    http://www.diplomacykorea.com/fileupload/conts/23[7871585].jpg
  13. Anon "Leader" Member

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    I can contact this guy. As I understand it from reading through the article provided, he's pro-Scientology because they claim to have effective tools for benefitting criminals and drug addicts. Before I contact this guy (it's after hours there anyway) I'm going to need to know if Narconon and Criminon actually do have effective rates, or whether they fail horribly. Regardless, I'll bring to his attention the breaches of human rights that Co$ is consistently responsible for.
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  15. Diogenes Member

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narconon

    http://www.arts.ualberta.ca/~skent/...ogistsInfiltratedBritainsSchools_07-01-07.htm

    http://www.westislandchronicle.com/article-185424-MP-backs-antidrug-organization.html

    http://www.westislandchronicle.com/...dorsed-organizations-ties-to-Scientology.html

    These links ought to help you out RE: Narconon.
    And IIRC, Criminon is basically Narconon for Cons.
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  17. Tweenon Member

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    They fail. Their claims of success are unsubstantiated and not backed up by scientific proof (according to NM's board of something or other where they were trying to push Narconon), which is basically to say that both programs are total BS in the eyes of real science.

    narconon-exposed.org is a website (pretty old) dedicated to examining Narconon and providing the counter-arguments that the Narconon program chooses to omit. I've been looking at it and what I've seen so far is very interesting.

  18. Diogenes Member

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    oh, this is also a good resource for narconon stuff.

    http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Narconon/source.htm

    and here's what I found real quick on criminon

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminon

    http://www.shipbrook.com/jeff/CoS/narconon/

    http://www.shipbrook.com/jeff/CoS/narconon/osb1992.html


    Hope that helps!
  19. Anon "Leader" Member

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    BOOM-chakalaka! You guys are AWESOME! I'm going to study up the materials over the weekend and see if I can present a solid enough package of information to Derek Lee to get him to change his stance after verifying if he agreed to the statements on the Co$ video.

    Edit: Just so you all know, here's my plan of attack for addressing members of the public who "support" Scientology.

    1. Research what they've done in the public sector.
    a) This will show you what they're most well known for.
    b) This will also give you an idea of their attitude or perceived attitude towards Scientology.
    2. Cross reference what they're well known for against Scientology's atrocities.
    a) Scientology's got a lot of them, so it should be easy.
    3. ???
    4. Profit!
  20. dirk nimrod Member

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    Hay guise, thanks for the responses. I looked at the website http://www.tac-bsa.org/ but I couldn't find any photos, but what I gathered is there are no "District Directors" but District Executives. I'm just curious if the BSA is in a "Coca-Cola" parasite-host relationship with Co$, using their name to promote their tech. I know the Lazy 8 troop in the LA area is Scientology-chartered, but who knows, the BSA's bigwigs might frown upon Co$ if they get info about their name being used and abused.
  21. Daywatch Member

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    wait how can scientology charter A BSA troop the Co$ is Athiests
  22. Donovan Cook Member

  23. Dubber Member

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    Here's some info to use when contacting someone about TWTH.

    * While TWTH appears completely secular by itself, the Church of Scientology sees it differently. Their internal spiritual advancement chart identifies TWTH as a "Scientology introductory service." It is, in their view, a recruiting tool.

    * The German government has identified Scientology as an organization opposed to the democratic order for several years. Their reasons for this are laid out in annual reports:
    http://www.verfassungsschutz.de/en/en_publications/annual_reports/

    * The church's internal position on morality and human rights can be gauged by doing a web search for "Rehabilitation Project Force" and "Introspection Rundown" or this page of first-hand accounts:
    http://www.lisamcpherson.org/cos/hr_abuse.htm
    or this page concerning the current head of the church:
    http://www.xenu-directory.net/scienos/miscavige1.html

    I'll send all of this this to Hamilton Green today.
  24. Anon23517 Member

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    Yeah, I thought that too at first, but looking through other pics on Google, there's not much resemblance to Mr. Scio Talk Man of the NSW Legislative Council.

    [ETA: A search has no hits for him to any of the Scio fronts/connections either.]
  25. dirk nimrod Member

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    http://www.troop8.cc/program.htm They're chartered by the Celebrity Center.
  26. me2 Member

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    ive the the whole vid. with audio. what do you want me to do with it?
  27. xenu55 Member

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    sace it - many other have done the same, but just save it for now
  28. Dubber Member

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    Touretzky's site is the main authority on this, but here's what I can tell you about the "studies" that I've seen on support of Scientology detox.

    Scientific medical studies identify an independent variable and use a control group. Studies of Scientology detox usually do not.

    Scientific medical studies set up double blinds to avoid confirmation bias. I'm aware of no Scientology detox study that does this.

    Scientific medical studies choose a dependent variable prior to the study and form conclusions based solely on that variable. Scientolgoy detox studies do not. They observe everything and then report whatever they can spin in favor of detox.

    Scientific medical studies use objective measurements such as, I don't know, testing body fat or perspiration for drugs. Scientology detox studies do not do this. If perspiration appears "strange" in any way, then it is assumed to contain drugs.
  29. womanonymous Member

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    Seems that this guy is who they say he is, Chairman of the Committed Caring Faith Communities-- Rev. Isaac C McCullough.

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    http://www.ccfc-stl.org/?page_id=39

    I will send him an email. Christfag here so I am qualified to make it extra-Jesusy. Can do the same if we dig up info on the other faith-based organization peoples ...

    Tried looking up the LA County commissioner but ran into the same problem as previous poster. Lots of commissioners out there, many county commissions, not a ton of photos.

    This discovery is the best thing in the history of time, btw.
  30. xenu55 Member

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    OP here - everyone has done such a great job with this.....please allow yourself 3 minutes and 30 seconds to be RickRolled.....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU
  31. exOT8Michael Member

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    I only allow myself Rickroll time if I have cupcakes handy.
    Off to Sprinkles now....
  32. xenu55 Member

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    LOL!!! :D
  33. Anonymousedk Member

    Re: Some proposals to handle this properly

    I'm sorry, but while I see similarity, It doesn't seem like the same person at all. For instance, The eyebrows are vastly diferent, and the one in the video is a lot more chubby.

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    OH NOES! Danish... Crap... And I have a shitload of stuff for the cops already :/
  34. exOT8Michael Member

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    What would happen if "someone" who shall remain nameless got press packs together with evidence of Scientology abuses and sent them to all these spokespersons to ask them if they know about these things and if they would support such activities??

    Just speculating here......
  35. Virre Member

    Re: Some proposals to handle this properly

    Ifyou look at the actual video (at any point when she doesn't make a grimace, you'll see that the two are identical. Also note that the picture on her profile is supposed to make her look better, politics are all about lying. ;)
    Here's another picture of her: http://www.ff.se/sitespecific/foretagarforbundet/files/jennifer.JPG

    Another thing is that she speaks in just the kind of way that Swedes does when they're bad at pronounciation of the English language.
    And last but not least, I have emailed her with a couple of questions in order to confirm her identity and get some answers about her apperance in the video.
  36. Donovan Cook Member

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    What were her answers? :applause:
  37. JaneDoe Member

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    Most these people, I'm willing to bet, are using Scientology materials without knowing anything other than what Scientology wants them to know.

    I say to your "someone", if the time and cost allows, go for it.
  38. Re: DAMNING NEWS ON CO$ RIGHT FROM ARS!!!

    sending press packs and evidence to the spokespersons that actually exist sounds like a great idea, just be sure they know that their shining endorsement of "the cult of greed and power" is what prompted the package. Some of them probably have very little knowledge of what they were advertising
    hello, politician? we rehabilitiate drug addicts; can you give us a "thumbs up" on videotape? ... Sure!
  39. Optimus Prime Member

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    What would happen? Likely a huge round of denials of involvement with the cult, maybe a lawsuit or two for breach of contract for misrepresenting a person or something. And that would lead to EPIC WINS.
  40. Virre Member

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    Hej *****!

    tack för ditt brev

    Tyvärr kan jag inte placera just nu vem du är men svaret
    på dina frågor är att jag varit intresserad av stödja mänskliga rättigeheter samt väldigt många olika organisationer.Hamnar då och då med någon som vill ställa frågor osv. Att jag ligger på deras hemsida visste jag inte.

    Svaret om jag är scientologi ? kan jag inte riktigt säga att jag är då jag plockar det goda av alla religioner.

    Glad påsk

    Hälsningar/

    Jennifer

    -------------------------------------------

    Hello *****!

    thank you for your letter

    Unfortunately I'm having trouble remembering who you are at the moment, but the answer to your questions is that I've been interested in supporting human rights among with many other different organisations. Occasionally I end up with someone that wants to ask some questions etc. I did not know that I'm on their website.

    The answer regarding if I am a Scientologist? can't really say that I am since I pick the good things in every religion


    Happy Easter

    Regards/

    Jennifer

    -----------------------------------------

    So where do we Swedish anons go from here with this? Right to the press, hoping that there will be some interest in the matter, or just confront her via email about the abuses and nature of Scientology?
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