DA: Hubbard

Discussion in 'Think Tank' started by Laughing Man, Mar 24, 2008.

  1. Laughing Man Member

    DA: Hubbard, now with Summary highlighted in BOLD

    Within this topic I would like to present a possible L. Ron Hubbard. This Devil's Advocate thread should assist in the development of effective de-Hubbardization techniques as well as a metric motherfucker of Anti-Miscavige focus. I should note that unless otherwise noted, all of my DA threads will assume the presence of some form of supernatural, the most extreme being Gnosticism-type Demiurges and the least extreme being there is a "malleable consciousness or soul".

    The Hubbard I present is an underpaid and less than bombastically successful science fiction authour. He feels a connection and a calling to Sci-Fi, and enjoys writing it. However, the more he writes, the more troubled he feels. Science Fiction reminds him of something, and some of his ideas start to seem like more than just creation. Some of them seem to be like memory. He shakes this out of his mid 20th century mind. It doesn't make sense.

    The feelings continue, he begins to feel more troubled and concerned. He then starts looking for answers, or at least something to make these feelings go away so he can continue to function and can conform to the society in which he lives. He attempts to go to the emerging field of psychiatry.

    Psychiatric practices at the time were, arguably, barbaric. He finds no peace there. Something about the primitive nature of the field causes another stirring within him. Ever wanting to solve his own problems, he then tries the only other outlet readily available at the time: The occult.

    You see, it may be hard to imagine now, but mainstream religion in the United States was fairly monochrome. There was a serious lack of diversity, the nation was still recovering from Prohibition. These are bad times for an individual-minded person to search for higher truth.

    Hubbard dabbles in the supernatural, and the supernatural arguably kicks his ass. This causes him to go into a bit of a downward spiral. Crowley doesn't even like him. Without guidance, his occult experiments leave him ungrounded and vulnerable in a way that will come to play later.

    He then stumbles upon Scientologie, and several other works. He stumbles upon psychoanalysis and early cognitive therapies. He begins to experiment with them. He starts to feel better. These are the answers he was searching for.

    People are basically good, and will generally usually start with good intentions when they find something that seems to help people. He wants to share this 'technology' he has discovered, his Dianetics. He still needs to support himself, so there is money involved. It's only much, much later that he realizes he can cash in on this. For the time being, it is benevolent. It seems to be working on others. He begins to obtain followers.

    However, something still troubles Hubbard. The feelings from Science Fiction writing from earlier. He begins to feel troubled again. He then begins to experiment on himself.

    He catches glimpses of higher cosmic truths, an extension of what happened when he would write. The things still don't make since to his mind. His only frame of reference is the mid 20th century. He begins developing more technology frantically to make himself feel better, to improve, to no longer have the haze in his mind. To feel 'clear'.

    Eventually he goes over the edge. He does become 'clear'. His cognition, self awareness, and perception have been improved. To us now this level isn't a deific achievement, merely an improvement, but to a person of his day used to the mindless drone society he lived in, it must have made him feel godlike.

    This god-complex begins to work in on his mind, eating him from the inside. His visions and discoveries are de-facto true, as he sees them, because clearly his material perception can no longer be wrong, why would his spiritual perception? His logic twists. He goes further, dives deeper. Believes these things could drive the unprepared person insane. He doesn't believe he's unprepared, but he is. He begins suffering the things he thinks he's immune to. He continues to think he's immune, this paranoia growing in him. His own growing organization even begins to seem like a threat. He becomes more withdrawn. By now he's grasping at the things he used to do to feel better, going to extremes and doing things with more intensity. Taking more vitamin pills.

    Those close to him see what's happening. Some of them switch his pills out for actual drugs. Some to try to help him, some to try to get him out of the way. His close colleagues have been doing some of the same things that he has, and they have a taste for power. They cannot be wrong. They have to stop him so they can obtain power over him. Miscavige emerges as the person to do this.

    Hubbard soon dies.


    He was a victim of his own attempts to cure himself. He had noone to guide him and so took missteps into places those with guidance would not. He was a man. He suffered. He felt better for a while, and tried to help others. He failed. He didn't mean for these things to happen. His story is sad.

    Miscavige on the other hand is a far more calculating motherfucker.

    "If a Blind Man leads another Blind Man, they will both fall into a pit" ~ Jesus
  2. Anon32167 Member

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    Besides, the best way to convince someone is to give real documentation, and these people dont believe in any documents not created by Le Con Blubbard himself.
  3. Laughing Man Member

    Re: DA: Hubbard

    Most of them seem to think he was in fact some sort of god-hero, an infallible genius, or both. Most opponents seem to think he was some super calculating mastermind who knew precisely what he was doing to take people's money.

    Here I present him as a man. We need to humanize him.
  4. WMAnon Member

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    What is your goal here? I'm obviously missing something. Are you trying to convince Scientologists that LRH isn't made of candy and unicorns? Cause that doesn't strike me as useful or even possible in most cases. What I've heard from Magoo and other ex-scis is that lingering doubts about the workings of the church are a better thing to focus on when discussing CoS with people who are still in. Are you trying to convince Anonymous that LRH is not the debbil? Cause we don't care.
  5. Laughing Man Member

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    The Think Tank forum rules layout rules for a "Devil's Advocate"-type post. this is the first post in a series of posts, and is intended to make you think. You could either respond by tearing down these claims with evidence that Hubbard was a calculating son-of-a-bitch, or you could play the Scion card and tear this down with claims of evidence that he was a hero or misunderstood.


    The point is to humanize the source of our opponents so that we don't forget that these are real people. It also helps to keep in mind the contrast of Hubbard the Human Being vs. Miscabbige The Motherfucker. Such things should aid in the development of pamphlets, fliers, etc.

    Scions are used to hearing Hubbard being torn down and presented as an intentional cultleader. They are not, however, prepared to deal with making him a normal man.
  6. twelve Member

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    For what it's worth, doesn't the only way to "make him a normal man" involve tearing apart his supergod-ness? My two cents and whatnot. But, if that is the case, it seems to pretty much undo your master plan.
  7. Laughing Man Member

    Re: DA: Hubbard

    Well, I think the 'middle of the road' tactic is more helpful than "OMG HE WAS A SOUL SUCKING SOUL PARASITE WHO INTENTIONALLY CRAFTED THIS AS PART OF HIS MASTER PLAN FOR MONIES!!!11!".

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