Court House News: Narconon Vista Bay Being Sued

Discussion in 'Narconon' started by functionunknown, Jul 21, 2011.

  1. Anonymous Member

    The Commander will have his men remove some of the the outdated equipment from the facility if you are interested. He only asks that we run the materials through you for security reasons. Hope you are surviving the heat wave!
  2. moarxenu Member

    The two plaintiffs are Danette Elliott and Lynn Elliot so I suppose Lynn is Danette's husband.


    Case CISCV171600 - Complaints/Parties

    Complaint Number: 1
    Complaint Type: COMPLAINT
    Filing Date: 07/14/2011
    Complaint Status: ACTIVE

    Party Number Party Type Party Name Attorney Party Status
    3 DEFENDANT NARCONON VISTA BAY Unrepresented Serve Required (WaitS)
    4 DEFENDANT NARCONON INTERNATIONAL Unrepresented Serve Required (WaitS)

  3. Sponge Member

    Scientology Drug Rehab: Danette Elliott Sues Narconon Vista Bay for $1M, Says She Was Duped Into Church-Sponsored Program
    LA Weekly (Blogs) 21st July 2011
    This won't end until they've killed a few people as a direct result of Niacin poisoning and interfering with existing medical care.
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  4. moarxenu Member

    John Hannon has sued on behalf of another Vista Bay victim David Compton as reported by Mary McConnell at her blog:

    Here is the pdf of the complaint filed on October 18, 2010:

    Case details are as below:

    It looks like this was settled or dismissed. I am not enough of a lawfag to know. Lastest action reads:

    Case CISCV169154 - Actions



    Action Text


  5. Squirrel King Member

    Sadly I think that will be the case.
  6. subgenius Member

    I have nothing to add. You guize are awesome. Let's give the attorney all the support they need.
    Anonymous delivers.
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  7. Exponential Member

    crappy pix of dox. better pix soon
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  8. moarxenu Member

    WOW, great work, anon. This makes for great reading.

    This appears to mean that clients are literally forced to sleep with one another.

    "Plaintiff was not allowed to leave the withdrawal cabin. She was not allowed to communicate with the outside world." -isn't this called "false imprisonment"?
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  9. subgenius Member

    What simplistic bullshit. Oh yeah, throw them in a "withdrawal cabin". How innovative.
    Justify it. Charge for it.
    You ask too many questions.
  10. subgenius Member

    [quote="Exponential, post: 182
    crappy pix of dox. better pix soon[/quote]
    think it should be "Association for Better Living and Education" (ABLE)?
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  11. AnonLover Member

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  12. Anonymous Member

    Researching Breining Institute now. Looks sketchy. googling Breining Review leads to a page that looks like its a us review of Beining, instead its a statement about on-line learning

    US Department of Education Report
    USDEdDL.jpg On-line learning students perform better
    US Department of Education
    Office of Planning, Evaluation and Policy Development
    Evaluation of Evidence-Based Practices in Online Learning:
    A Meta-Analysis and Review of Online Learning Studies

    Washington, DC
    May 2009
    93 pp

    US Department of Education Online Learning Report
    After reviewing over a thousand empirical studies of online learning, a report prepared for the US Department of Education found that students in online learning conditions - especially at the college level - performed better than those receiving face-to-face instruction.
    Online learning - for students and for teachers - is one of the fastest growing trends in educational uses of technology. Although earlier studies based on older technologies concluded there was not much difference between distance learning and regular classroom learning, the multi-media and Web-based applications now available significantly improve the learning environment and outcomes.
    The report concluded that, especially among the older learners at the college undergraduate, graduate and professional studies levels, "Students who took all or part of their class online performed better, on average, than those taking the same course through traditional, face-to-face instruction."
    This is good news for distance learning adult students, most of the time working full-time jobs, who do not have the luxury of being able to regularly attend on-campus classes.
    And, it is good news for employers who are considering whether the formal education earned by prospective employees is sufficient if it was obtained through a reputable distance learning program. It is not only sufficient, but, as the US Department of Education report concludes, it is also probably better.
    A copy of the complete report is available by selecting the link to the left, and is also available directly from the US Department of Education by pasting the following link into the URL address line of your browser:
  13. Anonymous Member

    Someone needs to comment and show that the Puriff is the exact same program as Narconon with links.
    There were pictures somewhere of the tone scale in the background of some narconon centers, don't remember where,
    and then include the link for the Scientology tone scale like maybe from Wikipedia
    narconon exposed is also a good link to include
  14. Anonymous Member

    Any attempt to insert URL's is met with your post being tagged as needing to be moderated for approval.
    Hence, posts with lings don't get published, AFAIK
  15. Anonymous Member

    Co$ is going to have to pay... 1,000,000 dollars
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  16. Anonymous Member

    Breining Institute is accepted.
  17. Anonymous Member

    DISQUS comments dont allow links to go thru
  18. moarxenu Member

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  19. AnonLover Member

    Has Narconon Vista Bay ever been protested?
  20. Saul Goodman Member

    It came up, but I think not.
  21. moarxenu Member

    Not yet :)

    NN VB is about 23 miles from Santa Cruz up in the Santa Cruz Mountains overlooking Monterrey Bay. Beautiful views. Like this:


    Earth view in Google Maps gives a great idea of the terrain. Basically, it is out in the country so it is even more isolated for raiding than Gold Base or NN TR.

    Check out pix on their site. Proxy warning if needed:


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  22. Exponential Member

    wow moar, ty pics link and orig compliant info. secluded location that one. yikes
  23. Saul Goodman Member

    That's why we didn't raid - too remote.
  24. Anonymous Member
    Addiction studies. So are they accrediting the training of Narconon staff or the program (or some of it) undertaken by Narconon clients?
  25. Anonymous Member


    Looks like its the staff training that they certify. Man, somebody should sue the Breining Institute.
  26. Anonymous Member

    Credentials from Breining are legitimate, IDK about narconon training, but their addiction councilor certification is valid.
  27. BigBeard Member

    I did some research on this last year when the Breining Institute's name first popped up. The results of that research can be found at:

    Short form: the Institute doesn't certify anyone, they provide the required training to get state certification as either a Certified Chemical Dependency Counselor (CCDC), or Registered Addiction Specialists (RAS). The test to become an RAS can be administered by the school, but the certification is done by the state. So claims to be "Certified by Breining Institute" are fraudulant on their face.

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  28. AnonLover Member

    any chance there is billboard space for rent, somewhere along the most likely route to remote location? (if its off the major traffic routes, might be somewhat cheap in today's economy)
  29. Anonymous Member

    will check on that
  30. anoninoob Member

  31. The Wrong Guy Member

    "Adding comments has been disabled for this video."
  32. The Wrong Guy Member

    People can comment on this one. There are no comments yet.
  33. The Wrong Guy Member

  34. jensting Member

    Yep, the quackery has to be stopped and big financial penalties are a good way to do it. (In other places, e.g. France, it got shut down after a death - this should not have to happen.)

    Best Regards

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  35. Anonymous Member

    nice work Exponential!
  36. xenubarb Member

    Since you may or may not be in contact, you may or may not want to tell them to speak out now before they settle with a gag. If they want their story told, they'd best tell it before the ball gag goes in.
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  37. Anonymous Member

    might make a settlement less likely though, because if the dirty linen is already out in public then Narconon has less to lose.

    depends on whether the complainant would rather fight the case or settle... and how much money NN is offering.

    clearly we'd rather they fight but that's not necessarily in their own best interest.
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  38. xenubarb Member

    Oh piff. They want to settle out of court to keep things out of the court record. Because, you know, court records are public. I've talked to several people about this, they spoke out before settling with a gag and it didn't affect their case at all.

    They don't want this shit in the public record, so they will settle whether or not the plaintiffs have already told their story outside of court.
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  39. Intelligence Member

    "IF" they accepted a settlement offer, there would be a "GAG" - Release and Discharge on the
    settlement amount for sure. But they don't have to agree to a "GAG" order for continuing to
    speak out. On my "GAG" order with the Labour Relations Case, I signed to the Confidentiality
    of the settlement amount ONLY. I would not sign to shut me up.

    You're right about "Narconon has less to lose", if they speak out before the case or a settlement,
    so any settlement likely would be less.

    If they stand strong and can cope with the many months, even years, waiting for a trial, they
    would probably win. And the evidence and testimony to win the case would Expose Narconon
    big time indeed.

    This is definately a Case that the COS does not want in court, but I sure hope it makes it.

    If it makes it to Court and "IF" I am contacted to provide evidence and testify, "My bags are
    already packed and a new Passport is on it's way."

    In my opinion, speaking out before case, if one is careful, should not affect a Tria. On the
    contrary, it could even help more evidence come in to show that this is NOT an isolated Case,
    as they like to claim when attacked!

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  40. Anonymous Member

    piff? really? :) I've never heard the word 'piff' before, but it's love at first sight.



    Sure, court records are public, but media articles are pretty public too.

    It's going to be hard for us outside NN to assess their willingness to settle and how publicity might affect that.The ex-NN staffers on this thread will probably have the clearest idea.

    Obviously I'd rather see it go to court.
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