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Councillor faces inquiry over ‘stupid’ Scientologists tweet (Wales)

Discussion in 'Media' started by OTBT, Jul 20, 2010.

  1. JohnnyRUClear Member

    Re: Councillor faces inquiry over ‘stupid’ Scientologists tweet (Wales)

    Gadzooks, it's a WINSTORM
  2. Sponge Member

    Re: Councillor faces inquiry over ‘stupid’ Scientologists tweet (Wales)

    Wales Online expands its story from yesterdays breaking news...

    ‘Stupid’ tweet wasn’t in breach of council rules
    WalesOnline - News - Wales News - ‘Stupid’ tweet wasn’t in breach of council rules

    large snippet...
    BEHOLD: THE POWER OF TEH INTERNETS! (and common sense)

    The LibDem Voice blog (Liberal Democrat party) posts the above story + blog comments....
    Lib Dem councillor cleared of wrongdoing over Scientology tweet | LibDem Voice

    =====

    Thanks.
    The first few pages are the preamble and the actual committee report starts in at PDF page 8

    =================

    New Statesman :: 29/9/2010 :: A bad day for Scientology? The Church of Scientology in the internet age
  3. Triumph Member

    Re: Councillor faces inquiry over ‘stupid’ Scientologists tweet (Wales)

    No word from superClam John Alex Wood and what a douchebag he was for writing the complaint.. that started this whole waste of UK Taxpayer Funds,and inquires.

    #stupid Scientology
  4. Anonymous Member

    Re: Councillor faces inquiry over ‘stupid’ Scientologists tweet (Wales)

    Implying you are in contact?

    Anyway - someone in the UK should get in touch with the good councillor and ask for his thoughts on any LibDem MPs who might be worth approaching and xenuphying.
  5. Anonymous Member

    Re: Councillor faces inquiry over ‘stupid’ Scientologists tweet (Wales)

    Silly Scilon John Alex Wood did a fabulous job bringing attention to the cult.

    I hope he starts complaining about Sweeney and BBC next.
  6. Re: Councillor faces inquiry over ‘stupid’ Scientologists tweet (Wales)

    Oddly enough, Scilon Twitterspammer John Alex Wood takes credit for kicking off the John Sweeny Explodes viral. As one can expect, he's been blathering about the Cult's black PR.

    He's also getting trolled by the lawyer who started #StupidScientology
  7. Anonymoosh Member

    Re: Councillor faces inquiry over ‘stupid’ Scientologists tweet (Wales)

    is in hand.
  8. Anonymoosh Member

    Re: Councillor faces inquiry over ‘stupid’ Scientologists tweet (Wales)

    that is the same lawyer that wrote the New Statesman Panorama blog post New Statesman - A bad day for Scientology?

    David Allen Green, big advocate of Freedom of speech, and Libel reform, especially in the communications area, also known as Jack Of Kent in the Blogosphere.

    well worth looking up.
  9. Re: Councillor faces inquiry over ‘stupid’ Scientologists tweet (Wales)

    Cool!!!
  10. OTBT Member

    Re: Councillor faces inquiry over ‘stupid’ Scientologists tweet (Wales)

    Ombudsman takes alternative view on 'stupid' scientology tweet | Cardiff | guardian.co.uk

    I love the 4 comments so far:

  11. Anonymous Member

    Re: Councillor faces inquiry over ‘stupid’ Scientologists tweet (Wales)

    Wow.

    I think there's a good chance Ombudsman for Wales Peter Tyndall has scientology influencing him / was befriended by a cult member at some point before this complaint was made by John Wood.

    Scientology hurts people and Tyndall is defending it publicly. What a stupid man.
  12. Anonymous Member

    Re: Councillor faces inquiry over ‘stupid’ Scientologists tweet (Wales)

    Ombudsmanwatchers.org.uk is asking if we can fill in any gaps, provide dates, further information or links? If so please click here


    Peter Tyndall, Public ServicesOmbudsman for Wales



    How do we lodge a complaint against this un-elected man being paid public money (how much?) to speak publicly defending a cult while acting in his capacity of ombudsman?

    Are there precedents for circumstances where an un-elected ombudsman
    uses his title in what are deemed to have been public defence of a dangerous criminal tax-dodging cult or is this a test case?
  13. OTBT Member

    Re: Councillor faces inquiry over ‘stupid’ Scientologists tweet (Wales)

    Science, Reason and Critical Thinking: Scientology Re-branding

    [IMG]

    From here:

    Twitter / Crispian_Jago: Feel free to use my #Stupi ...

  14. Anonymous Member

    Re: Councillor faces inquiry over ‘stupid’ Scientologists tweet (Wales)

    William Thackeray has asked some questions about this case here:
    Scientology: Cllr John Dixon - WhatDoTheyKnow

    Still awaiting a reply
  15. Sponge Member

    Re: Councillor faces inquiry over ‘stupid’ Scientologists tweet (Wales)

    Unlikely, oh stannum leaf hatted one. The Ombudsman was working within his nanny state remit. He clearly gave cited reasons why he referred it to the standards and ethics committee of the local council concerned. It would be even worse if he had powers in that case to bypass their committee at the outset and summarily punish Dixon.
  16. pedrofcuk Member

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    #StupidPeterTyndall
  17. Anonymous Member

    Re: Councillor faces inquiry over ‘stupid’ Scientologists tweet (Wales)

    This
  18. Anonymous Member

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    Never underestimate the cult getting in with people in power that they deem might be of use. It's what Hubbard trained them to do.


    If a cult member befriends someone in power, they are more likely to say, "oh they're ok, leave them" alone instead of looking at the evidence.

    A few example of scientology influence in the UK that we know about:

    names of City of London police shmoozed by the cult :
    Scientology hospitality - names of officers - WhatDoTheyKnow
    How the Scientologists woo City police | UK news | The Guardian
    Police officers accepted gifts from Church of Scientology | Mail Online

    Chief Superintendent Kevin Hurley spoke in praise of the cult at the opening of the new scientology QVS building




    UK parliament: list of observers in parliamentary group include scientology front group CCHR:
    June 2007 Notes
    Joint Committee on the Draft Mental Health Bill - Written Evidence


    Christopher Brightmore, JP and ex policeman and university lecturer dismissed from the GMC fitness to practice panel for undeclared CCHR scientology front group involvement:
    GMC | General Medical Council response to the decision of the ruling of the Information Tribunal



    The cult has clearly impressed their neighbour Charles Hendry MP by inviting him to attend the premiere of Tom Cruise’s film 'Collatera'l , so much so that he spoke up for scientology in parliament.

    His full ramblings on the subject can be read here:


    House of Commons Hansard Debates for 11 Jul 2005 (pt 29)
    Private Eye | Official Site
  19. Anonymous Member

    Re: Councillor faces inquiry over ‘stupid’ Scientologists tweet (Wales)

    Hahahaha, Thackerey keeping the embers warm under the HM civil servants feet, Lizzy should knight him for doing her job for her!
  20. Anonymous Member

    Re: Councillor faces inquiry over ‘stupid’ Scientologists tweet (Wales)

    L Ron Hubbard's 'tech' instructs scientologists to undemocratically gain influence and positions of power to create a scientology run world:


    a nation or a state runs on the ability of its department
    heads, its governors, or any other leaders. It is easy to get posts in
    such areas unless one has delusions of grandeur or fear of it. Don't
    bother to get elected. Get a job on the secretarial staff or the
    bodyguard, use any talent one has to get a place close in, go to work
    on the environment and make it function better. Occasionally one might
    lose, but in the large majority, doing a good job and making the
    environment function will result in promotion, better contacts, a
    widening zone.

    The cue in all this is don't seek the co-operation of groups. Don't ask
    for permission. Just enter them and start functioning to make the group
    win through effectiveness and sanity.



    -- L. Ron Hubbard
    HCOB 1960-06-23
    "SPECIAL ZONE PLAN"

    In a lecture entitled "Future Org Trends" given
    January 9th 1962, L. Ron Hubbard said:

    "You want to know what happens when you clear
    everybody in that neighbourhood, the only thing that
    [Scientology] center can become used for is a
    political center. Because by the time you've done all
    this, you are the government..."

    "Once the world is Clear - a nation, a state, a city
    or a village - the Scientology-organization in the
    area becomes its government! And once this has taken
    place the only policy accepted as valid is Scientology
    policy."



    Incredulity of our data and validity. This is our finest asset and gives us more protection
    than any other single thing. If certain parties thought we were real we would have infinitely more trouble ... without a public incredulity we never would have gotten as far as we have.

    And now it's too late to be stopped. The protection was accidental but it serves us very well indeed. Remember that the next time the ignorant scoff.

    -- L. Ron Hubbard{2}

    [93a] {HCOB 29 July 1963 "Scientology Review" (as quoted in the Australian Report)}
  21. Sponge Member

  22. Random guy Member

    Re: Councillor faces inquiry over ‘stupid’ Scientologists tweet (Wales)

    Yup, I'd say Mr, Tyndall has done himself a disservice by running the cults errand.
  23. Anonymous Member

  24. Anonymous Member

    Re: Councillor faces inquiry over ‘stupid’ Scientologists tweet (Wales)

    Nice backhand shot at the stupid cult, working into the article the already well-known Xenu story.

  25. Triumph Member

  26. Sponge Member

    Re: Councillor faces inquiry over ‘stupid’ Scientologists tweet (Wales)

    From Science Blogs, PZ Myers (biologist and associate professor at the University of Minnesota, Morris and often writes scienceblog articles critical of scientology).........

    Congratulations to John Dixon : Pharyngula

    Yes please :D
  27. Anonymous Member

    Re: Councillor faces inquiry over ‘stupid’ Scientologists tweet (Wales)

    #liesyoushouldntfallfor

    Is trending
  28. Random guy Member

  29. Anonymous Member

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    Scientology.png
  30. Anonymous Member

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    Suprised more press didn't pick up on the outcome of Dixon calling scientology stupid and tyndall's continued defence of the cult. We should have pushed it.
  31. Anonymous Member

    Re: Councillor faces inquiry over ‘stupid’ Scientologists tweet (Wales)

    It's not news if there's no drama - doesn't sell advertising.

    Had he been found 'guilty' media would have been all over it.
  32. Sponge Member

  33. Sponge Member

    Re: Councillor faces inquiry over ‘stupid’ Scientologists tweet (Wales)

    Call scientology stupid, get promoted (sort of)
    [advicedog.jpg]

    John Dixon on Lib Dem Assembly list - WalesOnline - 26th Oct 2010



    Btw, details on his Nov 15th Cardiff skeptics society talk on #stupidscientology, is in this thread:
    http://forums.whyweprotest.net/291-...dixon-will-give-talk-stupidscientology-72752/
  34. OTBT Member

    Re: Councillor faces inquiry over ‘stupid’ Scientologists tweet (Wales)

    Chinese citizen arrested for tweeting intention to protest | RCR Unplugged

  35. Sponge Member

  36. DeathHamster Member

    Re: Councillor faces inquiry over ‘stupid’ Scientologists tweet (Wales)

    It drives up their hit count quite a bit, I'm sure. (There's one football writer who works in a Scientology reference every few weeks. I'm sure he does it just to get that keyword in there.)
  37. Sponge Member

    Re: Councillor faces inquiry over ‘stupid’ Scientologists tweet (Wales)

    This story just simply does want to be put to bed :D
    All thanks to scientologist and persistent keyboard masher, John Alex Wood. Hey, how's that big hole in yer foot? It'll match nicely with your other Panorama inspired footnuke from 2007.

    Scientology insult councillor wanted chance to clear his name - WalesOnline - 17th Nov 2010

    snippet....
    Other thread on the Cardiff Skeptics in the Pub talk by John Dixon:
    http://forums.whyweprotest.net/291-...dixon-will-give-talk-stupidscientology-72752/
  38. Anonymous Member

    Re: Councillor faces inquiry over ‘stupid’ Scientologists tweet (Wales)

    When Miscavige brags about square footage, I don't think he means number of holes per foot; the hole stat is up.
  39. Anonymous Member

    Re: Councillor faces inquiry over ‘stupid’ Scientologists tweet (Wales)

    Comments submitted!
  40. Sponge Member

    Re: Councillor faces inquiry over ‘stupid’ Scientologists tweet (Wales)

    BBC News - Ombudsman for Wales rejects calls for reform of job | 21st Nov 2010


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