Company Trying to Copyright Anon Logo

Discussion in 'Freedom of Expression' started by anon walker, Jul 30, 2012.

  1. bAnon Member

    I'm ignorant here, but who are they 'defending' against, and 'who' owns the original Anonymous video? It's a rhetorical question - not looking to 'name-fag' - cocks and all
  2. exOT8Michael Member

    Their address in Paris is even in the article. How can they use a NAME to copyright ANONYMOUS? They should have done it anonymously. LOL
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  3. Anonymous Member

    Kinda smart. people who use the anon logo wouldn't be able to claim it without losing their anonymity. if you wanted to claim the logo legally you would have to prove it is yours which would mean you would lose your anonymity. Maybe it's a trap!
  4. Dragononymous Member

    Owh Really?
  5. Anonymous Member

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  6. Kilia Member

    btw......who is the creator?
  7. DeathHamster Member

    For copyright and trademark, I think you'd only have to show that it was a pre-existing work that wasn't theirs.

    For copyright, they'd be obvious plagiarists of a work by John Doe. For trademark, they have to actually try to take over 9000 assclowns to court to defend their trademark.

    Or... We could just tell Scientology, HBGary and friends, those gamer twits, banks and credit card companies, the military-industrial complex that, yes, these people really are the final bosses of Anonymous, and it was never ebaumsworld at all.
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  8. anonymous612 Member

    This. And of course they'd be completely incapable of SUCCESSFULLY defending it so it could very easily cost them more money than it makes them.
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  9. Anonymous Member

    Some french guy, I hear he is still around.
  10. Dragononymous Member

    Heard he got some job at a local company, early something.
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  11. anon4eva Member

    O LAWL...I don't care WHO u are, thats funny!
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  12. Anonymous Member

    Lol, no. Don’t mistake con artist for someone with talents. KTNX. I forgive your confusion, the name and title are misleading.
  13. Dragononymous Member

    I was joking..
  14. I've seen 'anon' T's. Like a real anon would advertise in the first place.

    In the meantime, bring on the hornets.
  15. The Wrong Guy Member

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  16. grebe Member

    Only a douchebag would copyright someone else's art.

    The Anonymous person who made the artwork should do one of those creative commons statements.

    Maybe this web site needs to say all content is copyrighted as public domain using the creative commons license.
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  17. Kilia Member

    I think I found the creator of logo on Twitter:
  18. muldrake Member

    In theory, you could pick up something public domain and make it a trademark by giving it secondary meaning. The problem is that if anyone owns something like a trademark on the current incarnation of the Guy Fawkes mask it would be DC Comics, its successors in interest, or even maybe Alan Moore and/or David Lloyd.

    None of those guys seem at all upset with the use of the mark by Anonymous, and don't seem to be asserting any rights over it. Alan Moore is openly approving of its use. The masks also bring in a nice amount of money apparently.

    However, that might change quickly if some bunch of thieves out there actually falsely claims they own the marks. These idiots could end up being attacked both by Anonymous and by the people who popularized the current incarnation of the mask, or if the creator of any logo they're stealing steps forward to assert copyright.

    Copyright doesn't care if you ignore 999 violations and then go after 1,000, unlike trademark. If someone is commercially selling infringing products, whether under trademark or copyright, the plaintiff would be entitled to seize and/or destroy all infringing products, seize all illicit profits or statutory damages, and to attorney's fees, which could add up to more than all of the above.

    That aside, they're probably lucky if the lawyers get to them first.
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  19. Anonymous Member

    Content unless specified Attribution-ShareAlike CC BY-SA , that's what's in wwp's footer.
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  20. Anonymous Member

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  21. grebe Member

    So an example of the headless guy and the "We do not forget" slogan from this web site might be covered under that copyright. Such an example would pre-date Apollinaire Auffret's filing in France.

    What do you lawfags think?
  22. grebe Member

    Mr. Auffret copyrighted the headless suit and the "We do not forgive. We do not forget. Expect us." slogan. He didn't bother with the Guy Fawkes image.
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  24. eddieVroom Member

    And it's France, which bitchslapped Scientology fairly recently. Plausible.
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  25. Anonymous Member

  26. Anonymous Member

    THIS will not end well...hehe gonna be the best lulz in a long time. popcorn!
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  27. grebe Member

    BRB, trademarking "This will not end well." Also, "Popcorn." And "Lulz." You fags gonna owe me many Jewgolds.

    What is Anonymous going to do? DDOS? That is weak. Legal issues aren't sorted by cyber sit-ins.

    Anonymous needs to level-up somehow. Not sure if possible.
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  28. Clever Name Member

    brb, infringing your trademark in a vile and graphic way :)
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  29. grebe Member

    Pics or it didn't happen.
  30. Anonymous Member

  31. grebe Member

    Oh U!

    You see, by trademarking our catch phrases we can beat these intellectual property pirates at their own game. If anyone tries to register Oh U!, anyone here can print out this post to prove that we already claimed it.
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  34. Anonymous Member

    Ima gonna copyright "bump" and sue all you faggots for infringement. I'll sue you in England.
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  35. Anonymous Member

    Oh noes! (Bump)
  36. Krautfag Member

    The french dude has put a statement on his website
    Obviously not a greedy profiteer but a stupid namefag, who wanted to protect the logo.
  37. Tourniquet Member

    Another lightning rod can always come in handy.
  38. anon walker Moderator

    They'll sue us for using our own designs...fuuuuu-
  39. anon walker Moderator

    Kitchen utensils? I am trying to imagine anonymous themed utensils. Maybe sammich spreader that sez "Now make me a sammich?"
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  40. The Wrong Guy Member

    Here's the Google Translate result for that statement:

    Hello to you all.

    I am the manager of the company Early Flicker.

    Regarding the filing of logos and my company by Anonymous credo that the media briefing recently, here is my full response to questions that you may be asking:

    Some errors in the report about the action were made, and it seems important to provide the necessary clarifications on what you see, I think wrongly, as a disgrace.

    Early Flicker the company is a small company that offers people to customize various objects in the image of countries, characters or ideas they advocate. Profits are minimal, we only sell 2 or 3 items per day but the idea was friendly, playful and excited me.

    Often when a client from a site like this one a control model (and this is the case at all sites of this type, a large majority also offer logos and creed Anonymous), the seller must verify that these images are free, the risk of legal difficulties. So I regularly checked for any filing of these models until several months ago (February 2012), when I had the idea to place them myself. These were then guaranteed to be usable in a free and legal ... for all! Since the tabling NO BAN has been established for their use, and not one cent has been claimed through copyright.I recall that when submitting a logo, exclusivity does not return to the depositary by its own actions, namely the prohibition to sell to others. But in many months this has never been done (I did not wait two days to choose this course of action), and never will. Yet on the Internet, the target would have been many! The idea itself of getting rich by opposing a copyright (an icon that I am not the author) to people who identify with certain principles that I fully understand because of my profession, and which I believe , I never came to mind.The evidence, I thought gained around my gesture, I was not pushed to justify it, which I guess explains the anger and indignation of some of you today.

    It seems that the information was relayed only a few days ago, my action was hitherto unnoticed, for the simple reason that I have not sought to assert anything, or to "make the buzz". The deposit was made in the absolute discretion in February and had then made no waves. I'm still within the scope of amazement at the madness that FOLLOWS today, but at least has the merit of demonstrating our responsiveness to threats against our freedom of expression. Maybe a little less naive on my part would have avoided this situation, but I confess to not seeing things as they are presented to date. The deposit is not expensive, and ensures a perfect freedom of action, the questions asked by the media on "the objective of such an act" have not asked me.

    To be clear, there is absolutely no question of creating a "brand" Anonymous. I do not produce the series, but for unity and to demand, I have never sold wholesale t-shirts bearing the image of the movement, I do make a label or symbol of recognition of my products. I'm just asking an image on an object, the client's choice, as do hundreds of other sites like mine.

    It is indeed important that everyone is aware (myself included) as logos and creeds Anonymous, not only are not mine, but belong to no one, it is perhaps not so unacceptable that they are protected by someone who will not seek to benefit, and that sometimes it may be wise to use enemy weapons to defend themselves (why not to copyright). Some say it's the whole principle of Creative Commons, however, given the problems raised by the current case, one can legitimately ask whether this is sufficient protection. But all this can of course be discussed, opinions may differ, of course, on this point, I can easily understand, and I understand all the better after hearing the opinion of many, which I did not expect really.

    This deposit would, however, been done by someone more malicious that would have prohibited the reproduction and distribution, what we are all agreed to deny. This danger still exists in all other states.I recognize of course that the original idea did not go so far ... it was just to make sure that nothing would prevent the dissemination of these logos, by myself or another. But before the attacks of which I am the target I think it's also good to expose my own principles.I confirm publicly vouch for their free use and legal in France by all who recognize in the ideals of Anonymous, and this as long as I will be helped by sympathizers of the movement.

    Again, so far I've never been away from this path, it is easy to check. Moreover, without the buzz created by news sites, not by my company, nothing has changed regarding the use of these logos and creed, and the deposit might even remain silent for months or even years ...I hope my message has succeeded, he would doubtless have been wiser to get the agreement in advance of any authority, but by definition Anonymous has no authority one contact.I do not pose as staunch defender of the ideals of Anonymous, but as someone (like many others) who want to help free those who recognize themselves to enact and defend their ideas, just as eventually one who would choose a t-shirt bearing the image of a historical figure. This is all done to the original mission of my website and in no way precludes, on the contrary, the Anonymous movement.

    To conclude, it is certainly not pleasant to me to see my website and my mailboxes stormed, but believe that given the relative importance of a company like mine, which I dishonest objectives see me dressed up are much more painful than the bankruptcy of my business.

    I currently exchange with one of the support committees of France Anonymous, at their request, I will do what they please in the interest of the movement.

    Site activities will resume immediately resolved the dispute.

    M. Auffret.
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