COMING SOON: Revenge of the Psychs

Discussion in 'Education, Research and Inside Reports' started by ElrondHubble, Apr 30, 2008.

  1. ElrondHubble Member

    COMING SOON: Revenge of the Psychs - SUBMIT QUESTIONS, GO GO GO

    My psychology teacher has expressed interest in watching "Psychiatry: An Industry of Death". Afterwards, I'll interview him and see what he thinks about it, i.e., whether it sucks majorly or minorly.

    Am I doin it rite?
  2. Ten Tigers Member

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    Shit yeah!!! Looking forward to the follow-up!!
  3. D... Member

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    Do want.

    It's always beneficial to have all sides of the story. Moar info pls.
  4. ElrondHubble Member

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    The movie is currently en route to the objective. I'm still waiting for word back on if he has recieved it, but he most likely has. Hopefully we can get our interview done soon; there's only two weeks of school left for me (which ironically means that I'm going to miss the tenth as well :( ).
  5. ElrondHubble Member

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    Sorry for the double post, but...


    I just got the movie back from my prof, and the first thing he said to me was, "Do you understand the logic? Because it's definitely flawed." :D

    His first reaction is that the movie is a total stink pile. There are SOME accuracies in it (I'm guessing it has to do with the overuse of medication, because I'm thinking that's something we can all agree on, and he's spoken out about it in class), but the logic they use to connect truth to claim reeks of more phail than Spengbab.

    His major emphasis is how they talk about psychs 'calling people animals' and saying that they therefore can't control the mind, but then they double back and say they CAN control the mind. Stupid CCHR is stupid.

    He also said he was surprised that they would go to such lengths to fight psychiatry. "A two-hour film?" My reply was, "You have no idea." I wonder how he'll react to the 'psych-buster' grenade footage... :guyfawkes:

    I'll be arranging for a full interview this weekend, perhaps to be recorded on the tenth, and I'll see how well that goes. I'm torn between making it audio only or perhaps using my webcam to record video. Any ideas, Anon?



    If you have any questions regarding the video, submit them here and I'll see to it that they're answered!
  6. enronanonron Member

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    Oh yes please do show him the video and graphics of the "psych buster" exploding grenade, from Scientology's 2006 campaign for the Global Obliteration of Psychiatry:

    The Church of Scientology: a hate group?
  7. ElrondHubble Member

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    I've sent him two YouTube vids. One is the 'Psych Buster' footage, and the other is a segment from Tommy Boy's vid involving the actions he's taken against "their reign". The prof has already spoken against Cruise IN CLASS, but I don't think he's seen this footage yet.

    I'll be delivering more as the news develops, but for now, ask any questions you have regarding the videos he watched, as well as his own views on psychiatry and psychology.
  8. lermanet_com Member

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    from an internal scientology email (I'm in yur email lists)

    This is today's BIG NEWS, May 6th

    A new video exposing the extensive conflicts of interest between the American Psychiatric Association (APA) and the pharmaceutical industry was released today on a newly launched website, (, to coincide with the 161st anniversary of the APA and its annual convention being held in Washington, D.C. Widespread psychiatric drugging of children has become an increasingly contentious issue, with pharma-funded psychiatrists at the center of the controversy. The psychiatric drugging of foster children in particular is now the subject of a May 8th congressional hearing. A study in the May issue of the journal Pediatrics, now garnering international attention, found that American children take antipsychotics at about six times the rate of UK children, while a January New York Times (NYT) investigation revealed that "the more psychiatrists have earned from drug makers, the more they have prescribed a new class of powerful medicines known as atypical antipsychotics to children."According to the psychiatric watchdog Citizens Commission on Human Rights (CCHR), which produced the new webpage and video, the soaring increase in psychotropic drugs to children is a result of the incestuous relationship between the APA and the pharmaceutical industry-totaling more than $10 million a year in conflicts of interest.

    Today, about 30% of the APA's income derives from pharmaceutical industry advertising and nearly 20 drug companies this year have invested an estimated $3 million into the APA's convention alone. Of the nearly 30 pharmaceutical industry-supported symposiums, speakers' fees could run as high as $250,000. The APA has also made an estimated $40 million from sales of its Diagnostic & Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM), an "insurance billing bible" that pharmaceutical interests potentially influence.

    In 2006, a Psychotherapy and Psychosomatics study determined that 56% of psychiatrists on panels determining what "disorders" would be included in the DSM-IV had undisclosed financial interests in drug companies.Researchers also found that 100% of the psychiatrists on panels overseeing so-called "mood disorders" (which includes the lucrative "bipolar disorder") and "schizophrenia/psychotic disorders" were financially involved with drug companies that manufacture the drugs prescribed for these conditions, the sales of which are around $40 billion a year worldwide.

    Lisa Cosgrove, a clinical and research psychologist from the University of Massachusetts, Boston and co-researcher in the 2006 study reported that these disorders are not based on medical science: "No blood tests exist for the disorders in the DSM. It relies on judgments from practitioners who rely on the manual," she stated.

    Last December, U.S. News and World revealed that 19 out of the 27 task force members for DSM-V, due to be published in 2012, had financial ties to drug companies.

    The January NYT investigation further found that psychiatrists earn more money from drug makers than doctors in any other specialty.In one state, Vermont, drug company payments to psychiatrists more than doubled from $20,835 in 2005 to an average of $45,692 in 2006. Antipsychotic drugs were among the largest expenses for the state's Medicaid program.On September 4, 2007, the NYT reported, "Drug makers and company-sponsored psychiatrists have been encouraging doctors to look for [bipolar] disorder." The expanded use of bipolar as a pediatric rather than adult disorder has made it the fastest-growing part of the $11.5 billion U.S. market for antipsychotics, reported Bloomberg News the next day.

    Melissa Delbello, research psychiatrist with the University of Cincinnati who is speaking at the APA convention on May 7, was recently cited by Senator Charles Grassley for her failure to disclose to the university how much she had earned from pharmaceutical companies. In 2002, she was the lead author of a study that concluded that children responded well to the antipsychotic drug Seroquel, which is manufactured by AstraZeneca, one of the companies funding symposiums at the APA this year. She disclosed that she'd received $100,000 from the company between 2005 and 2007, but Senator Grassley discovered it was more than double that-$238,000.

    SAMPLE OF Speakers at the APA convention include:

    David Kupfer, Professor and Chair, Department of Psychiatry, University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine, was a member of the DSM-IV Task Force and is Chair of the DSM-V Task Force. He has been a consultant to Eli Lilly & Co., Hoffman-LaRoche, Pfizer, Forest Labs and Servier and also sat on the advisory boards of Eli Lilly & Co., Forest Labs and Pfizer.

    a.. Kupfer's wife, Ellen Frank, Ph.D., has received research support from Eli Lilly & Co. and Pfizer and was also a member of the DSM-IV Task Force.

    a.. Joseph Biederman, Chief of the Clinical & Research Program in Pediatric Psychopharmacology, Massachusetts General Hospital is giving seminars on pediatric bipolar disorder and Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder, the latter funded by Ortho-McNeil Janssen Scientific Affairs. He was a member of the DSM-IV committee overseeing what infant, childhood and adolescent disorders would be included. Biederman has received research funds from 10 pharmaceutical companies, including manufacturers of antipsychotic drugs prescribed for bipolar. Last year, his promotion of pediatric bipolar disorder was blamed, in part, for the death of 4-year-old Rebecca Riley from Massachusetts from a prescribed cocktail of psychiatric drugs which included antipsychotics for bipolar. Dr. Lawrence Diller, a California behavioral pediatrician, told the Boston Globe, "I find Biederman and his group to be morally responsible in part. He didn't write the prescription, but he provided all the, quote, scientific justification to address a public health issue by drugging little kids."

    a.. David Shaffer, Professor of Child Psychiatry at Columbia University and Director, Division of Child Psychiatry, New York State Psychiatric Institute, is part of a symposium discussing "disorders of childhood: A DSM-V research agenda." Shaffer was a member of the DSM-IV Task Force and is responsible for inventing TeenScreen, a subjective survey conducted on teens in schools to determine if they are potentially suicidal. He admits there's a potential 84% chance of wrongly identifying students using his survey.

    a.. S. Charles Schulz, Professor and head of the Department of Psychiatry, University of Minnesota Medical School Minneapolis, Minnesota, was a DSM-IV project participant. His industry-supported seminar about "medication treatment for youth" is funded by AstraZeneca, the manufacturer of the antipsychotic Seroquel. The company faces multiple suits alleging that it downplayed the risk of diabetes with the drug. Schulz has been a consultant for AstraZeneca and Eli Lilly & Co. and has received grants from them and Abbott Laboratories and Janssen Pharmaceutica.

    a.. Charles Nemeroff, Professor of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences and Chairman of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences, Emory University School of Medicine in Atlanta, is conducting a seminar on depression supported by Sanofi-Aventis. Dr. Nemeroff was one of the psychiatrists on an FDA Advisory Panel in 1991 that exonerated Prozac (the first SSRI antidepressant) from causing suicidal behavior-a fact established 13 years later when the FDA ordered drug companies to add a black box warning that all SSRIs induce suicidal behavior in children and teens. Nemeroff is a consultant for at least 20 pharmaceutical companies and has received research funds from at least 8 psychiatric drug manufacturers.

    CCHR has released the new webpage and video on the APA and its conflicts of interest to raise awareness on the fact the DSM medicalizes all human troubles as "mental disorders" in order to sell psychiatric drugs.]In 1969, the Church of Scientology and Dr. Thomas Szasz, Professor of Psychiatry Emeritus from SUNY Health Science in Syracuse, New York, co-founded CCHR to investigate and expose psychiatric human rights violations. For more information on CCHR -- Home - Citizens Commission on Human Rights
  9. ElrondHubble Member

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    This ought to be interesting; I wonder what the prof will think of it. Keep the stuff coming, people!
  10. ElrondHubble Member

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    The prof backed out. Since he's a Psychology professor, as opposed to Psychiatrist, he doesn't think he'd be a good source of information. While I disagree, I'll respect his decision; it's not like the Co$ needs another victim. However, I'm still determined to keep the idea alive; when I get home after finals (next week), I'll renew my efforts. Thanks to everyone that has contributed info so far, and keep questions coming; I will have someone interviewed by our Sea Arrgh protests, I'm sure.
  11. captainslug Member

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    Scientology doesn't understand the difference between the two. It has no bearing on the merit of his criticisms anyways.
  12. Grunce Member

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    "According to the psychiatric watchdog Citizens Commission on Human Rights (CCHR), which produced the new webpage and video, the soaring increase in psychotropic drugs to children is a result of the incestuous relationship between the APA and the pharmaceutical industry-totaling more than $10 million a year in conflicts of interest."

    I am laughing my ass off. The COS talking about the CCHR as if it was an independent entity, and not a subordinate organization -- and then talking about an "incestuous relationship" elsewhere? High comedy!
  13. ElrondHubble Member

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    OK...let's breathe some new life into this dead puppy.

    I've found another psychiatrist here at home. No word on if he's willing to do the interview, but I'm very confident he will be. Apparently, though, he's only in his office once a week, so I hope he gets back to me soon. If it's all for naught, I'll move on to someone else.
  14. a-anon Member

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    I think it would be a good idea to spam all the psychology offices we find and to let every psychologist know what is going on. They would probobly want in on this action.
  15. ElrondHubble Member

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    I want to be an ambassador of Anonymous, not a nuisance. Yes, a few would be more than enthusiastic, but I'm sure some may not know the whole CCHR connection, and just dispel me as some "youngun with that thar protestin' group". I'll focus on one at a time.
  16. Don Carlo Member

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    I know a psychiatrist and he says they all know Scientology hates them. CoS has picketed at psychiatric conferences and generally made trouble. The psychiatrist should not give his name, otherwise CoS will zero in on him as "bigoted," the "psych behind Anonymous," etc. Even if CoS looks stupid doing this, they'll do it anyway, because they see psychiatrists as their mortal enemies and the root of evil.
  17. Jack the dog Member

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    Indeed you are doing it right, well done.
  18. Crisbian Member

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    Can someone pm me for my email address so they can send these videos to me? The reason being is that my aunt is one of the directors of mental health in Essex. I would also like to get her professional opinion and post it on here. I also have other members of my family who are doctors and nurses and any other videos you can send me about their medical claims I would like to pass on to them and get their opinions posted as well. As long as know one has any objections to me doing this?
  19. Grunce Member

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    I find the above is generally true for just about any value of "this".
  20. hotdog57 Member

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    scientology blamed 911 on the Psychs, this is a fact they also blame all most ever thing on them, they hate the Psychs and have all kind of strange storys on them. they have fair gamed lots of PSYCHS. one x OSA guy said he planted LSD in the PSYCHS TOOTHPASTE.
  21. Re: COMING SOON: Revenge of the Psychs

    Mike McClaughry.
  22. snowwhite165 Member

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    you can find the tape on this at the old L M T were the x osa guy thinks its funney.
  23. Re: COMING SOON: Revenge of the Psychs

    Ok, my vid editing skills suck.
    Basically, they don't exist.

    Psychiatrists are listed in the phone book. I mean, they aren't hard to find.

    Has anyone put together a video explaining about the families murdered because of Sci opposition to meds, their threats to "destroy the psyches" ect. that could be burned to DVD and mailed to Psychologists anonymously?

    Is there a way this could be done slick enough and glossy enough to get them to view the free vid without actually blatantly crapping on real copyright issues (as opposed to fair use)?

    Anonymous is >9000. 100 people 100 dvds each = 10,000 psychiatrists and if only 3,000 view it should create mass buzz. They do talk to each other.

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