Civil case: sparrow harrowing II

place-holder for #2.

Continued to May 13th, Judith Macaluso presiding

BELOTTE, KIM PLAINTIFF MOXON, Mr KENDRICK L L
MANDIGO, BRIAN Defendant LESTER, Mr THOMAS E

Schedule DateSchedule TimeDescription

05/13/2011 11:00 AM Status Hearing

02/17/2011 Order Filed
Order Granting Motion to Stay Action Pending Resolution of Related Criminal Case, Memorandum of Points and Authorities. Signed by Judge J. Macaluso on 02/17/11. Submitted. 02/17/2011 09:09. ncv.

meep meep!

And now for battle no 2...

Dox or DIAF.

*moar popcorn*

ok then
10 days and counting.

same source as before
https://www.dccourts.gov/cco/maincase.jsf

Hoping Sparrow won't be brow beaten in to settling prior to court; I know that innocent in criminal court does not always equate to getting off from civil action, case in point O J Simpson, because bar for evidence is set lower. One hopes they civil court sees through this action like the criminal one did.

Suspect the civil action will also afford Moxon more latitude for shenanigans to spin the case out.

Pretty sure Moxon and Co will try all sorts of tactics to get Sparrow to agree to some kind of restraining order to keep away from the cult in Washington so they can claim victory. Much as I'd hate to see it happen I would understand if Sparrow did eventually settle.

Scientology exposing flaws in the justice system since 1954. :-/

Wow. I remember when it just used to be STFU.

Ah, the good old days.

Kids today. What can ya do? *shrug*

It is my hope that since he was found not guilty of stalking they will have no grounds for a restraining order. If he isn't stalking and there is no domestic violence what can they claim in civil court is the need for a restraining order?

I take back my call for dox+DIAF.
And will proceed to lurk.

I agree, I'd understand if Sparrow did get worn down by scilon harassment tactics, but-
I trust in the awesome awesomeness of the SParrow. This is an important battle that could have heavy implications for the future. Success here will be a HUGE nail in the coffin of the DC idle org and set precedent for scilon legal harassment attempts in the future. Sparrow has great big clanking balls and is un-bullbait-able. If anyone can do this right, he's the man.

This.
Can we get a status on defense fund reserves? Green, yellow, red?

Honestly don't know how things work in the USA, wouldn't be too sure here either. I do know the two types of court are completely different. The bar for proof is down from beyond reasonable doubt to on balance of probabilities in civil court, at least in the UK. As with O J Simpson the criminal trial found him innocent but the wrongful death suit that followed clobbered him (hahaha). This does not mean that will happen with Sparrow, for one thing a lot of people felt that O J Simpson may well have been guilty and there was a lot of, sadly, circumstantial evidence to back that view up. Not sure if circumstantial evidence counts in civil case and IANAL.

I'd like to think that even in a civil suit people will see this case for what it is, an attempt to stifle free speech using frivolous legal action. No doubt there will be some grandstanding and bawwing by the scilons and much use of video and that SP declare he was given telling him he had to stay away from members of the church of scientology. (we told him he had to leave us alone but he wouldn't, he's guilty - NOT!)

I see there was a motion to stay proceedings until after the criminal trial was that submitted on behalf of Sparrow or by Moxon and co?

As to the restraining order was that part of the civil action, if so I doubt it will be lifted until after that has been resolved.

^^^
THIS

The OJ case was quite a different animal thankfully and the comparison give me the willies It is imo more of an exception than the rule but IANAL.

I hope that the ACLU folks were around watching the proceedings in response to the civil suit.

I PMed him. Will let you know if I hear anything back.
I am sure/or hoping he is busy celebrating ATM

I know we really don't know the whole story of what happened in this trial with the ACLU being present at the last case(s) until Sparrow is free to fill us in.
Is it at all possible they would get involved in the second case?
Hopefully they will be present at this last case too at the very least?

I'm waiting for this information as well. I'm dying to know what happened with the ACLU smackdown during the criminal trial.

The ACLU lawyer is attending court appearances.

I know that, I was just wondering what happened between the ACLU lawyer and Moxon. I believe Sparrow alluded to something happening between them.

Yes, and it is a plus for our side.

FUCK them
Sparrow took on this fight on his own.
ACLU deserves NO credit for any balls or anything else on this one.
(coming from an aclu member)
they sat back and watched
all it takes for evil to truimph is for "good" people to do nothing
this is called the pecking order
once a sparrow drew a little blood the rest will peck at it
chicken shit motherfuckers for not being on
the front lines
(coming from an aclu member)
everyone's shit stinks
especially mine

We'll all know more soon. It might amuse you if the ACLU loves sparrow and not the cult?

I don't know about amusing me, but it certainly pleases me

makes no grammatical sense....at least tease me properly

My guess is that they were attending in case Sparrow lost, as they would have then taken the appeal. Appeals comprise the majority of the ACLU's work. They could also have been attending because they intend to help on a malicious prosecution claim by Sparrow. They weren't sitting there for no reason at all.

That was a tease, not a statement (tm).

i don't really give a shit about what happened after sparrow put his ass on the line with no body else there.....
I have been there (dc org)

solo

alone

nothing else matters
in this context

all this is just blah blah blah
means nothing more
than meow to an animal

No, just to take a ride on his back.

woulda shoulda coulda
with all due respect none of this is contrary to my rant
coulda shoulda woulda
the road to hell is paved with their good Intentions
clowntime is over
please let me rant...

they intend to "help" on his malicious prosecution claim

fuck 'em

Johnny motherfucking come lately's
give it to some money hungry plaintiff lawyer
i can think of a few
where's gerry spence when we need him
and maximum damage?
yeah prolly dead
this is coming from a member
bureaucratic bullshit artists
glory hounds
sparrow put his ass on the line
all glory to him and him alone

don't disagree with you sub, but let sparrow have his glory without angry guy ranting in the corner
<3

RO, is Sparrow ok for donations? Happy to donate!

GO FUCK YOURSELF MOXON!

My, my, someone's a bit more ornery than usual tonight. Your poetry is even in a bigger font. (Love ya, subg, but mebbe lighten up a wee bit? Sparrow is amazing, and I am very pleased with the outcome, but he did also have the help and support of many.)

Would love to be a fly on the wall wherever Moxon and co. are right now...

waiting to hear back from him
I imagine he is busy ATM basking in the after glow of glory

trying to redirect the kudos to
sparrow

I'm going for a ride now
and i'm going to record some sounds of nature
in a van
down by the river....

not the aclu