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  1. The Wrong Guy Member

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    Police Stood By As Mayhem Mounted in Charlottesville | ProPublica

    State police and National Guardsmen watched passively for hours as self-proclaimed Nazis engaged in street battles with counter-protesters. ProPublica reporter A.C. Thompson was on the scene and reports that the authorities turned the streets of the city over to groups of militiamen armed with assault rifles.

    https://www.propublica.org/article/police-stood-by-as-mayhem-mounted-in-charlottesville
  3. That is a truly chilling photo. A perfect picture of mindless mob fanaticism, with obvious Kristallnacht associations. I wonder if Peter Cvjetanovic is aware of this.
  4. Disambiguation Global Moderator

    My God, I would say that was chilling but chilling isn't the correct word.
    Terrifying?
    I'm moving to South America?

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  5. Ann O'Nymous Member

    Not sure that putting alt-right and nazis in the same bag is really helpful.
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    It's being called the Tiki Torch Parade and Tiki Torches came out with a statement condemning Charlottesville
    "TIKI Brand is not associated in any way with the events that took place in Charlottesville and are deeply saddened and disappointed. We do not support their message or the use of our products in this way. Our products are designed to enhance backyard gatherings and to help family and friends connect with each other at home in their yard"

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    Cvjetanovic, the first white Nationalist marcher identified has something to say.
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    ]https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-allsup-392b4988
    He's the Senior Advisor to the Students for Trump Society
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    James Allsup claimed he was attacked by Trump counter -protesters at a rally last year
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    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligence...le-protesters-chase-away-rally-organizer.html
    "A day after a white nationalist riot left one dead and dozens injured in Charlottesville, one of the co-organizers of the rally attempted to hold a press conference in the city, but was shouted down and chased away by protesters as he started to address the crowd.

    Jason Kessler, who helped coordinate Saturday’s ill-fated “Unite the Right” rally, was slated to speak at 3 p.m. on Sunday outside Charlottesville City Hall, but a large number of protestors drowned him out with chants of “Shame!” As protesters crowded Kessler and shouted into his microphone, police had to escort him from the premises while some in the crowd gave chase."
  13. The Wrong Guy Member

    Fundraiser by Ericka Chaves : Natalie Romero medical fund

    At a counter-protest for the Charlottesville White Supremacy rally, a 20 year old (my daughter, a Houston native) was one of the people who got hit by a car. She's in the hospital and we really will appriecate any help for the hospitals expences. Natalie does not have health insurance at this time and has sustained skull fractures among other injuries from the attack.

    https://www.gofundme.com/natalie-romero-medical-fund
  14. The Internet Member

    I guess it kinda forces the white supremacists to explain how they differ from Nazis. And it may force Milo to explain how he's not a white supremacist, again. Perhaps there is some entertainment value in that.
  15. DeathHamster Member

    No visible wounds, so I'd say corn syrup and dye.
  16. I feel terrible for his poor, sweet, innocent, naive, Midwestern mom. Watch this video, she's absolutely adorable and it is heartbreaking for me. The AP are the first to interview her and are informing her that her son has just killed someone. She doesn't react with shock and sorrow, but with something more like confusion.



    "Albright? Alt-Right?"

    Just so innocent, and sweet, and confused. I feel so terrible for her.
  17. I should clarify that I feel even worse for the families and loved ones of those who lost their lives or were seriously injured.

    I hope that bringing up my sympathy for the perpetrator's family, who are also victimized by association, was not inappropriate. That video of the guy's mom just really got to me.
  18. The Wrong Guy Member

    Protestors target Trump in rallies after deadly Charlottesville clash | TheHill

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    Thousands of people in New York City and Washington D.C. gathered Sunday to protest President Trump’s response to the deadly violence that broke out at a white supremacist rally in Virginia over the weekend.

    Protestors marched from Columbus Circle to Times Square in New York City, holding signs with messages like “No! The Trump/Pence Regime Must Go!” and “Make Racists Afraid Again…Smash White Supremacy!”

    The crowd attempted to assemble outside Trump Tower in Manhattan, but police barricaded the street in front of the building. Some protestors had gathered out in front earlier but were forced to leave the area, according to amNY.

    Trump is expected to visit the location on Monday.

    Continued at http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...trump-in-rallies-after-deadly-charlottesville

    Protesters Swarm Trump Tower After Charlottesville: ‘No Trump, No KKK, No Fascist USA!’ | The Daily Beast

    It’s his first trip home since taking office and New Yorkers said he wasn’t welcome back, especially after failing to denounce white supremacists.

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    More than 1,000 demonstrators swarmed Trump Tower on Sunday, yelling “no Trump, no KKK, no fascist USA” as the president returned to his New York City home.

    Trump’s Sunday visit to Trump Tower was his first since he was inaugurated. While activists planned protests as soon as the White House announced Trump’s return, the demonstrations were supercharged by Trump’s Saturday refusal to condemn white supremacists in Charlottesville, Virginia. Protesters also gathered outside of the White House and hit the streets in Los Angeles, San Francisco, and Chicago.

    “Donald Trump thinks he can come to New York City,” Eva Sahana, a 22-year-old organizer with the group Refuse Fascism told The Daily Beast. “We are here to demonstrate that he his unwelcome here, especially because right now he has blood all over his hands. The blood of Heather Heyer, the blood of everyone who was injured in Charlottesville yesterday.”

    Continued at http://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-tower-protesters-no-trump-no-kkk-no-fascist-usa
  19. And hair unruffled and shirt not stained and no blood dripping down his arm which would be there if he held a bandage to his head. Head wounds bleed like stink.
    I'm sure this will be re examined.
  20. I agree, he wasn't forthcoming with her and some children are crazy- nothing a parent can do about that.
  21. And two state troopers who were responding to the terrorism with a car.
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    It's taken a while to identify him, he's one of the ringleaders to some beatings last night

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    "Many 'pro-South' leaders have well-established records of racism. But they've generally avoided armed revolutionaries like Michael Tubbs."
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  23. GoDaddy bans neo-Nazi site Daily Stormer for disparaging woman killed at Charlottesville rally


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...charlottesville-rally/?utm_term=.e4d424d7c1e6
    "In the Daily Stormer post, Angelin characterized Heyer as dying in a “road age incident.” He said she was a “drain on society” and disparaged her appearance. “Most people are glad she is dead,” he wrote."

    "After months of criticism that GoDaddy was providing a platform for hate speech, the Web hosting company announced late Sunday that it will no longer house the Daily Stormer, a neo-Nazi website that promotes white supremacist and white nationalist ideas."
  24. The Internet Member

    I'm torn about this because free speech. But on the other hand, sadists in groups will egg each other on. They lose the perspective of normal society and that is dangerous. You have to hit a sadist with a rolled up newspaper and say, "bad dog!" pretty much every day to keep him in check.

    We're always going to have sadists and sociopaths amongst us. Most of them are manageable if they're under the thumb of normal people, lots of normal people.

    I wish we could all agree to ignore an event with neo-Nazis in it. No counter-protest, no videos, no news reports. Just let them march around a Confederate statute for a couple of hours like sad little LARPs. But we are easily trolled.
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    Police officers in two states accused of mocking Charlottesville violence | The Washington Post

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    After the weekend unrest in Virginia, police officers in two separate states are under investigation over social media posts that allegedly mocked the violence at the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville.

    Officers with the Shively Police Department in Kentucky and Springfield Police Department in Massachusetts allegedly made fun of a fatal car crash that occurred during a rally Saturday in which hundreds of white nationalists, neo-Nazis and Ku Klux Klan members clashed with counterprotesters. Heather D. Heyer, 32, of Charlottesville was killed and many others were wounded in the attack.

    In Massachusetts, Springfield Police Commissioner John Barbieri said he received a complaint Sunday about a Facebook comment reportedly made by a Springfield police officer. MassLive.com reported that Facebook user Conrad Lariviere commented on a post about the crash, writing: “Hahahaha love this, maybe people shouldn’t block roads.”

    In the post, Lariviere also responded to another commenter who had apparently criticized him for his controversial remarks, according to MassLive.com.

    “I’ve been hit by a shitbag with warrants but who cares right you ignorant brat live in a fantasy land with the rest of America while I deal with the real danger,” he wrote, according to news site.

    Police confirmed to The Washington Post that Officer Lariviere has been reassigned during the investigation.

    “If in fact this post did originate from an officer employed with the Springfield Police Department,” the police commissioner said, “this matter will be reviewed by the Community Police Hearings Board for further action.”

    “Unbelievable!” Springfield Mayor Domenic Sarno said Sunday in a statement. “There is no place for this in our society, let alone from a Springfield Police Officer.”

    In Kentucky, Shively Police Lt. Col. Josh Myers told The Post that Officer Morris Rinehardt has been placed on administrative leave during an investigation into a meme posted on Facebook.

    The Courier-Journal reported that Rinehardt posted a meme over the weekend depicting the damaged vehicle. It apparently read: “When you were born a Challenger but identify as a Ram.”

    In another Facebook post jokingly advertising the sale of the vehicle, the Kentucky police officer reportedly commented, “Minor front end damage. Nothing serious,” according to the newspaper. However, authorities at either police department have not confirmed the details about the posts.

    Phone numbers listed for both officers did not appear to be current.

    But in a Facebook conversation with MassLive, Lariviere, with the Massachusetts police department, apologized for “a stupid comment about people blocking streets.”

    “Never would I want someone to get murdered. I am not a racist and don’t believe in what any of those protesters are doing,” he told the news site. “I’m a good man who made a stupid comment and would just like to be left alone.”

    Continued at https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-accused-of-mocking-charlottesville-violence/

    Conrad Lariviere: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know
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    Morris Rinehardt
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    Shively Police investigating meme allegedly posted on officer's personal Facebook account mocking Charlottesville death
    http://www.wdrb.com/story/36130401/...the-death-of-a-woman-during-virginia-protests
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  27. The Wrong Guy Member

    Protesters in Charlottesville blame police for violence

    By Dakin Andone, CNN

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    It wasn't until police declared the rally an "unlawful assembly" and Gov. Terry McAuliffe declared a state of emergency that police ordered the gathering to break up and scattered the crowds throughout the city.

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    Kendall Bills, who attended the counter-demonstration with her partner, says she was attacked by one of the rallygoers but police did nothing.

    "In the entire hour that I was there," she said, "at no point did I see the police intervene in any violence they were witness to, including my own."

    David Straughn, another counterprotester, claims he was near Heyer when she was hit by the car. Up until that point, he said, "the police did nothing."

    Once the car plowed into the crowd, the police stepped in, Straughn said.

    "I will give credit where credit is due, but I will say that was too little, too late," he told CNN. "If the police had acted differently in the beginning of the day -- before 1:42 p.m. -- maybe we wouldn't be talking about Heather Heyer right now. Maybe she would still be alive."

    According to a tweet from the ACLU of Virginia, police said they wouldn't intervene "until given command to do so."

    Another protester, Hawk Newsome, president of Black Lives Matter of Greater New York, told CNN affiliate WCAV the police response to "Unite the Right" was different than at rallies he's attended in the past. He said the police in Charlottesville were too far away to prevent any violence.

    "The police actually allowed us to square off against each other," Newsome said. "There were fights and the police were standing a block away the entire time. It's almost as if they wanted us to fight each other."

    Neither Charlottesville Police nor Virginia State Police immediately responded to CNN's requests for comment. The city of Charlottesville also did not respond.

    More at http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/14/us/police-response-charlottesville-trnd/
  28. The Wrong Guy Member

    Update: White nationalists, Richard Spencer to protest at Texas A&M on 9/11

    By Josh McCormack, Editor-in-Chief, The Battalion, Texas A&M University

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    It was announced today Preston Wiginton will hold a white lives matter protest on Texas A&M’s campus in front of Rudder fountain from 9 a.m. to 4 p.m on September 11, 2017.

    Wiginton was also the organizer of Richard Spencer speaking at Texas A&M in December of last year. The event will will include speakers Sacco Vandal of "The Right Stuff" and Ken Reed of White Lives Matter, Houston.

    On Aug. 13, Wiginton also announced Richard Spencer will return to Texas A&M's campus for the event.

    "Just confirmed," Wiginton said in a press release. "Richard Spencer to attend and to speak at White Lives Matter event being held at Texas A&M."

    Wiginton said he was prompted to put on this white lives matter protest following the Unite the Right event being held today in Charlottesville VA where white nationalist protestors and counter protesters became violent. Police removed all protestors from the park ending the event.

    “The event will be to protest the liberal anti-white agenda which includes white guilt which leads to white genocide,” Wiginton said. “And the other purpose of the event will be to sponsor white identity and white pride in which white lives do matter. This is not an anti-brown event or anti-black event this is an anti-liberal event.”

    When asked about instances of white genocide occurring, Wiginton said he would have to get back with more information at a later date and he is a promoter of these events not a speaker.

    Amy Smith, executive vice president for marketing and communications of Texas A&M said the school in no way promotes or agrees with Wiginton's ideas or actions.

    "His views and those of the group he represents are counter to the core values of Texas A&M," Smith said. "While he has the right of free speech, so too do we have the right to refute those views and get on with the daily business of a world class university."

    Student Body President Bobby Brooks said in a written statement he will work with students this week to face the issue head on and will be responding with a more in-depth comment as he gains more information about the event.

    "I will never know what it is like to be a student of color at Texas A&M University and in this world, but I acknowledge that this rally, offensively hosted on September 11th, signifies hatred," Brooks said. "As Aggies, we are better than people who attempt to derail our safety and our right to receive an education."

    Brooks, who took office this past April, previously worked in the office of the MSC president as executive vice president of diversity.

    "Their success is built off of how well they intimidate us, how well they control our lives and I simply will not let them detract from the fact that Texas A&M actively develops leaders of character," Brooks said. "I look forward to working with all students this upcoming week to discuss issues in-depth and to plan how to best keep our students safe and informed."

    When asked about the specific date chosen to protest, Wiginton said it had nothing to do with the horrific attack on American soil by terrorists in 2001.

    “Primarily because it is the second week after school starts and Monday is a busy day on campus,” Wiginton said. “It has nothing to do with 9/11, the twin tower situation. I find that the millennial generation doesn't even relate to 9/11 and it was the date that was open.”

    Source: http://www.thebatt.com/news/update-...cle_807a53e4-7f87-11e7-8dab-af12a6146408.html

    Another white nationalist rally planned, this time in Texas with Richard Spencer | CNN

    White nationalists, neo-Nazis and other extremist groups plan to hold a "white lives matter" rally at Texas A&M on September 11. Richard Spencer, the white supremacist who helped found the so-called alt-right movement, will speak at the event, according to the Battalion, Texas A&M's student newspaper.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/14/us/texas-white-nationalist-protest-trnd/
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    Then they registered with Google, were discovered, and got booted again.

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    ^^ UPDATE Daily Stormer is currently *attempting* (at least) to relocate outside US jurisdiction, to http://hosted000.net in... Moscow.

    [There are screen grabs in that tweet]

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    ^ To the shitbirds attacking my domain - http://jesterscourt.cc - I've pointed DNS to 147.237.0.71 - you're now hitting Mossad. Good Luck.
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    Protesters pull down Confederate statue in North Carolina | CNN

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    A peaceful protest organized to stand in solidarity with Charlottesville, Virginia, took a turn Monday when protesters toppled a Confederate statue in Durham, North Carolina.

    Demonstrators gathered at the old Durham County courthouse around the Confederate Soldiers Monument. The monument, dedicated in 1924, depicts a soldier holding a gun on top of a concrete pillar. The pillar is engraved "In memory of the boys who wore gray."

    During the protest, a person climbed a ladder and tied a rope to the top of the statue as the crowd chanted, "We are the revolution."

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    Protesters pulled the rope and erupted in cheers as the statue toppled onto the ground. Several people ran up to the mangled statue, kicking it and spitting on it.

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    Durham City Police said no arrests were made because the incident occurred on county property. CNN has reached out to county officials for a statement.

    More, with photos and video: http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/14/us/confederate-statue-pulled-down-north-carolina-trnd/

    https://twitter.com/search?q=Durham
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    What Trump Could Have Said After Charlottesville | The Late Show with Stephen Colbert



    In his speech on Saturday, the President failed to confront the hate groups associated with the deadly Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, VA. But he clearly he had it in him!

    Stephen Makes Condemning Nazis Look Easy (Because It Is) | The Late Show with Stephen Colbert



    It took the President two days to utter a direct dismissal of the KKK, neo-Nazis, or white supremacists. Stephen doesn't even need 15 minutes.

    Anthony Scaramucci Would Fire Steve Bannon | The Late Show with Stephen Colbert



    Front-stabber Anthony Scaramucci believes Trump's chief strategist Steve Bannon has his own motives.

    Anthony Scaramucci Doesn't Like Bannon's 'Toleration' Of White Supremacists | The Late Show with Stephen Colbert



    Ex-White House Communication Director Anthony Scaramucci renounces elements within the White House he perceives as encouraging white supremacist ideology.
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    Seth Meyers' Statement on Charlottesville | Late Night with Seth Meyers



    Seth Meyers addresses violent events in Charlottesville, Virginia and calls out President Trump for being slow to directly condemn the white supremacist movement.

    Trump's Response to Charlottesville: A Closer Look | Late Night with Seth Meyers



    Seth takes a closer look at Trump finally bending to two days of public pressure to unequivocally denounce white supremacists, neo-Nazis and the KKK in the wake of violent rallies in Charlottesville, Virginia.
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    Some interesting pics from the NYT.

    America would be so much better with moar self-appointed cops bossing us around. Or so these two assholes seem to think.
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    I see Trump Pepe but I don't know the other meme this neckbeard virgin is representing on his lapels. Update: That's Pence Wojak. You can google Wojak, meh.
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    What is happening here?
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  39. The Internet Member

    Trump was pushed to condemn the far-right groups but his heart wasn't in it. So he snapped back to "many sides."
    Turns out we are all violent Nazis. So the white supremacists aren't so bad.
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  40. The Internet Member

    Last I checked there were something like 200-300 people involved with anti-fa in the entire US. No way they could be more than a small minority of the thousands of counter-protesters in Charlottesville.

    Also, the violence and intimidation started Friday night when the white supremacists had their Tiki torch march to a church where counter-protesters were meeting in private. So the neo-Nazis threw the first punch.

    Then on Saturday people were peaceful until the Vanguard with that big fat white haired guy out front decided to shove their way into a crowd on the street. People got hurt and some fought back. But again, the alt-right guys got aggressive first.

    On the Internets I read a lot of comments saying that Mr. Manslaughter was "scared" because counter-protesters attacked him and started beating on his car just before he drove into the crowd. One comment said his car windows had been broken. But lies. Video of his car shows nothing wrong with it prior to the attack. And there's no crowd around it either.

    So the alt right are trying to re-write history to make the small amount of violence coming from counter protesters seem like much more than it was.

    What do you want to bet that Fox News will start saying, "alt-left" to make it a thing now so Trump doesn't look derpy.

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