Charleston Church Shooting

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    South Carolina raised Confederate flag in 1961 to insult nine black protesters — and took it down to honor nine slain

    A peculiar historical symmetry exists between South Carolina’s decision to raise the Confederate flag in 1961 and the state’s overnight vote Thursday to bring it down.

    The flag was first hoisted over the Statehouse on April 11, 1961, as part of the centennial celebration of the firing on Fort Sumter, which opened the Civil War.

    The flag was flown at the request of Aiken Rep. John A. May, who introduced a resolution during the next legislative session to display the flag over the Statehouse, and lawmakers approved his measure March 16, 1962 – after the flag had remained flying for nearly a year.

    Just weeks before the Confederate battle flag was first hoisted, 10 black students from Friendship Junior College were arrested on Jan. 31, 1961, and convicted the following day after they refused to leave an all-white lunch counter in Rock Hill.

    Nine of those students, who became known as the Friendship Nine, revolutionized the civil rights movement by refusing bail.

    “The obvious advantage of ‘jail, no bail’ was that it reversed the financial burden of protest, costing the demonstrators no cash while obligating the white authorities to pay for jail space and food,” wrote Taylor Branch in the Pulitzer Prize-winning “Parting the Waters.” “The obvious disadvantage was that staying in jail represented a quantum leap in commitment above the old barrier of arrest, lock-up and bail-out.”

    The students spent 30 days doing hard labor at the York County Prison Farm, and other demonstrators followed their example at white-only businesses throughout the south.

    A York County judge tossed out the trespassing convictions against the former students – eight of whom are still living – on Jan. 28, 2015, saying the men, now in their 70s, should never have been charged in the first place.

    “We cannot rewrite history, but we can right history,” said Judge John C. Hayes III. “Now, as to the Friendship Nine, is the time and opportunity to do so. Now is the time to recognize that justice is not temporal, but is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow.”

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    BBC Breaking News ‏@BBCBreaking 1 minute ago
    Breakdown in background checks allowed Charleston shooting suspect Dylann Roof to buy gun - FBI

    Background Check Flaw Let Dylann Roof Buy Gun, F.B.I. Says | The New York Times

    The man accused of killing nine people in an historically black South Carolina church last month should not have been able to buy a gun, the F.B.I. said Friday in what was the latest acknowledgment of flaws in the national background check system.

    A loophole in the check system allowed the man, Dylann Roof, to buy the .45-caliber handgun despite his having previously admitted to drug possession, the bureau said.

    “We are all sick this happened,” said the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey. “We wish we could turn back time.”
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  7. Random guy Member

    Well, the Gun Lobby is right gun control don't work, at least when FBI don't do their work.
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    Why North Carolina Is the New Selma | The Nation

    Selma in 1965 and North Carolina in 2015 show how far conservative white Southerners will go to maintain political power.

    On the first day of the federal trial challenging North Carolina’s new voting restrictions, thousands of voting-rights activists marched through downtown Winston-Salem. They held signs reading, “North Carolina Is Our Selma” and “50 Years After Selma Voting Rights Still Matter.”

    At first glance, the comparison between the Selma of the 1960s and the North Carolina of today seems absurd. Before the VRA was passed, only 2 percent of African-Americans were registered to vote in Selma, the most segregated city in the South. Today, largely because of the VRA, 68 percent of black North Carolinians are registered to vote and black turnout exceeded white turnout in the past two presidential elections.

    But there’s a crucial similarity between Selma in 1965 and North Carolina in 2015—both show the lengths conservative white Southerners will go to maintain their political power. The billy clubs and literacy tests of yesteryear have been replaced by subtler and more sophisticated attempts to control who can participate in the political process.

    Exactly a month after the VRA was gutted by the Supreme Court in 2013, North Carolina passed the country’s most sweeping voting restrictions. Key portions of the law — cutting early voting, eliminating same-day registration during early voting, not counting out of precinct ballots — were upheld on a preliminary basis in 2014. Over 2,000 voters were prevented from voting as a result — 38 percent were African-American and 47 percent were Democrats.

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    I guess it's the last group the flaggers want help from.
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    Live From the KKK's Confederate Flag Rally in South Carolina | VICE News

    One week after the removal of the Confederate flag from the South Carolina State House, members of local Ku Klux Klan chapter the Loyal White Knights are holding a pro-flag rally outside the capitol building. At the same time and in the same place, Florida-based Black Educators for Justice will hold an anti-flag protest. Muhammad Lila is reporting live on location for VICE News.
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    Watch Tennessee neo-Nazis boast recruiting is up following Charleston shooting: ‘We’re a white nation’

    Tom Boggioni
    18 Jul 2015 at 10:39 ET


    In a very candid interview with Channel 4’s Cordelia Lynch, two Tennessee members of the neo-Nazi American National Socialist Movement showed off their backwoods headquarters and training center while boasting that recruiting has become much easier following the shooting that claimed the lives of nine black churchgoers in Charleston.

    Claiming to be leaders in a growing movement made up of white people who believe they are “under siege,” Mike Schoeler and “Captain” Brian Culpepper explained that white people have had enough.
    “Whites are getting fed up,” Culpepper explained. “Whites are getting tired of being disenfranchised and neglected if not discriminated against by our own government.”

    “Does it make you angry that a black man is your president?” the two men were asked.

    “Absolutely, ” Culpepper replied. “Absolutely. We’re a white nation founded by and for the white man.”

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    Ku Klux Klown: The Racist Behind the Pro-Confederate Flag Demonstration Is Hated Even by Other Klansmen

    By Nate Thayer, VICE

    Today, July 18, a rally is being held at the South Carolina statehouse in Columbia* to protest the removal of the Confederate flag. The action has been organized by a North Carolina group called the Loyal White Knights of the Ku Klax Klan, which bills itself as the "largest Klan in America." Understandably, this chapter of the KKK has been receiving a lot of attention; a pair of its members, Robert Jones and James Spears, have been widely quoted in the media praising the flag and Dylann Roof, the 21-year-old charged with the shooting deaths of nine people in an African-American church.

    Except Spears* and Jones aren't real people — both are aliases for Christopher Barker of North Carolina, an unemployed man in his 30s with an extensive rap sheet who is despised even by other white supremacists.

    Barker's involvement has not been reported elsewhere, but over the course of numerous phone conversations acknowledged to VICE that he used Spears and Jones as pseudonyms and was responsible for organizing the rally — even though he also says that he's banned from Klan activity as a condition of his parole. (That's the reason he won't be attending the rally in person, he told VICE.)

    Barker's name doesn't appear on the official application for permission to protest at the Columbia* statehouse—it was filled out instead by his wife, Amanda, who also runs the LWK website. (A copy of the application obtained by VICE can be seen here.)

    Barker's criminal record, according to law enforcement documents, spans at least 18 years and includes arrests on at least 20 charges, including larceny, possession of stolen goods, malicious arson, at least five DUIs, and possession of a firearm by a felon. Most of the charges aren't related to white supremacy — instead, they are indicative of a man with an alcohol problem and a short temper who can't stay out of trouble.

    "We have long been aware of Chris Barker," said Craig Blitzer, the Rockingham County, North Carolina, District Attorney. "We have charged Barker over the years with forgery, assault with a deadly weapon, making threats, an arson charge, an assault on a female in 2011 and again in 2014, DWI in '07 and '09 and '04, possession of stolen goods, larceny, two charges of possession of a stolen weapon, and an open container charge last month. And that is just in Rockingham County."

    On Christmas Eve 2008, Barker was arrested for trying to burn down the house of a man he apparently thought was having an affair with his wife. "We found his electronic discount card — the kind you swipe at the cash register at Walmart each time you buy something — at the fire scene, which traced back to Barker," said Rockingham County Fire Marshal Robert Cardwell. "When we went to talk to him, he was so drunk we couldn't understand half of what he was saying. He was drinking beer through the whole interview."

    "I think Mr. Barker has a problem with alcohol," he added.

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  15. Random guy Member

    Why is it the greatest defenders of the white race always turn out to the worst examples of it?
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    One Day we will be free.jpg
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    A whole community not angry and hating on everyone

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    for the trump stuff or did I miss something else
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    Google "Sandra Bland" "I will light you up" "dash cam video"
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    o heck I knew that
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    Yes, I know you knew. Caaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
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  25. Disambiguation Global Moderator

    Sorry folks I wandered off topic too. No more.
  26. Anonymous Member

    Public grieving isn't everyone's style.
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  27. Your cold.
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    Learn to spell.
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  29. Whatever.
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  30. Hedorah Global Moderator

  31. How many times are mods going to throw away posts that disagree with your views?
    Stop trying to control the discussion. Talking about the flag is not derailing the topic of the OP.
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  32. Hedorah Global Moderator

    I answered this already in a different thread. FYI spamming the site is not allowed.
    Posts were not thrown away. They are organized on topic. The thread tittles clearly outline this for you.

    You quoted one mod, but skipped info from the one who organized the threads.
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  33. Ersatz Global Moderator

    We have a thread for that discussion.
    We have many threads about many different topics. We try to keep each thread on the topic for which it
    was started. This thread is about Charleston Shootings. If you would like to discuss flags, go to the Flag
    thread. If this is too difficult for you to understand I would suggest trying an easier forum to get
    a better understanding of how forums works.
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    Off topic posts moved to the dome.
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  35. Ok let's just all agree that the flag is evil and racist for a moment.

    Let's go by that logic and see where we end up.

    The argument of people against the display of the flag is:

    "It's a symbol of slavery and racism so it was be removed from all public view."

    Ok going by that logic what other symbols of slavery can we find in America?

    If we were to totally get rid of the flag and limit it's display to museums because of it's association with slavery we would also have to get rid of moments to the founding fathers like Washington and Jefferson for example.

    Both where slave owners right?

    So going by the logic of "that flag is a evil symbol of slavery" we would have to completely erase anything and everything to do with them.
  36. Anonymous Member

    Yeah, those motherfucking moments. Let's get rid of all of those.
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    Why is it there is no mention in the forum of the shooting that happened about a week ago in Chattanoga, TN???
  38. And after that do we get rid of the massive painting of Washington on the ceiling of the US capital?

    Maybe do something about Mount Rushmore?

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