charles koch speaks out.

Discussion in 'News and Current Events' started by Anonymous, Mar 1, 2011.

  1. Anonymous Member

    Just throwing them out as ideas for the uniforms of the coming Kochcropsy Nation State.
  2. If you thought I don't like unions, you either haven't really paid attention to what I write, or simply prefer to oversimplify the stances others take so you can fight with them on your own black and white plane.
  3. I'd think you'd find, libertarian policies would not mesh well with fascist policies.
  4. Anonymous Member

    I don't know. I can see how the blue flag might bring out Field Marshall Coale's eyes. But the red and blue lightning bolt is sassy and just seems a better fit for Chief High Minister Koch's personality.
  5. Anonymous Member

    Is it possible that fascists might use a nice word like "libertarian" to fool us into thinking they don't actually love power and control?

    When I ask how I'm going to pay for my kids to go to college and I get back something about "libertarian" ideas rather than a practical solution, I become slightly suspicious.
  6. I don't know, I paid most of my way through college by working 12-hour days. I -- and many people I knew -- would periodically take a quarter off and work a second job. Not ideal, but we also had better grades and cared more about being their than the spoiled kids whose parents paid for everything including the rent.

    In fact, the kids who worked, when I had bills to pay, actually always had money for me. The guy whose Mom paid for everything for him -- and she wasn't even well-off, just a factory worker -- was always late and even tried to skip out on the last month's rent. Maybe kids paying their own way could be good for them.

    As to fascist vs. libertarian for the Koch's, I really can't find a stronger argument for them as fascists than I can for Obama as a communist. Just because it makes you happy to say it doesn't make it a factual statement.
  7. Anonymous Member

    Perhaps a little break would suit you well.
  8. Lol, fail troll is now migratory troll. Fun stuff.

    It's not my fault if people can't encounter an opposing opinion without assuming it's a personal insult. I find it amusing, as a person who argues ideas and has taken a firm and visible stance against the counterproductive effects of personal attacks, that I am accused of deriding and belittling people by someone whose only recourse appears to be character assassination.

    My apologies for deigning to not agree with your every word and drink up your wise and incisive observations with puppy-like glee.
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  9. adhocrat Member

    nah, my socks stink to high heaven.
  10. adhocrat Member

    What a second, you are quoting Galbraith as a source of your ideas? Give me a break. He is a Keynesian and has been quite thoroughly discredited. It is simply a leftist look at economics, and was destroyed in the 70s when it couldn't explain stagflation, but classical liberal economic theory did explain it. Keynes said it couldn't happen, yet it did, which pretty much destroys any credibility he had.

    So, please, try again.
  11. Anonymous Member

    I don't care what he is. What is said makes sense. If not, tell me why not.
  12. adhocrat Member

    did you hear what I said? His economics are faulty, his thinking was faulty, so to quote a failed economic theory is to admit you have nothing to add to the conversation.

    From the article.
    This is saying what is plainly false, that the crisis arose from a failure of regulation. It was a failure of overregulation.

    Besides, I have a bone to pick with Geithner. He is a tax cheat, an acknowledged criminal and he was rewarded for his crimes by being put on charge of the organization he cheated. Does that make any sense at all? Any sense.
  13. fallingspider Member

    Dear Mr Koch,

    I can has separation of corporation and state please?

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  15. Anonymous Member

    While I disagree with corporate entities holding so much power in politics, it's still the private sector. If a citizen wants to contribute they should be allowed.

    And as much as I hate to admit it, because I am anti-Koch Corp, some of his agendas have helped my own.
  16. Anonymous Member

    As a side note I have to add that Koch genuinely believes in his principles due to his trips to the former USSR and has knowledge of the Active Measures program, which thought well ahead into the future.. and I see it's effects here every single day.

    While I'm disgusted with their environmental issues, I'm on board with his economic and political ideologies.
  17. Anonymous Member

    He is essentially saying that it is in the interest of private interests to more and more unduly influence public policies. You disagree this is happening. Got it.
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