Breaking: Islamic Research Academy approves Scientology!

DeathHamster · Jun 7, 2009

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ScudMuffin;889973 said:

http://www.isra.org.uk/

Time to have a word I think.

[edit]

Harpooned.

Perhaps, but there are lots of Islamic Research Academies, which this one no longer calls itself.

Google doesn't have an Al-Azhar El-Sharief Islamic Research Academy, just refs to the Al-Azhar El-Sharif Islamic Research Academy.

YetAnotherAnonymous · Jun 7, 2009

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MongoLloyd;889990 said:

Durr, some (alleged) islamic scholars supposedly signed a note saying TWTH isn't a religious document and seems like okay stuff. Which is true. It's a bunch of uncontroversial platitudes.

They're always pulling this crap for propaganda purposes, show some un-initiated 'authority figure' some totally uncontroversial thing and ask them to approve of it, and then play that as some kind of blanket approval of Scientology.

Which raises the question: Why the fuck are you playing Scientology's game? Why is this being called this an 'approval of Scientology' when it isn't? - which is the whole reason they got them to sign off on it. Nobody would approve of Scientology if they knew the full story.

THIS

Also, what's the sauce on this document? And has anyone else wondered why there are postage stamps on the doc itself? Every country I've ever been to puts them on the front of the envelope, that's how paid postage works. I smell a $cifake.

TinyDancer · Jun 7, 2009

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We need to know the provenance of this document before allegations are made.
Was it published by the CoS?
Where is the original image taken from?
Calling OP to the thread.

Anonymous · Jun 7, 2009

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DeathHamster;890005 said:

Perhaps, but there are lots of Islamic Research Academies, which this one no longer calls itself.

Google doesn't have an Al-Azhar El-Sharief Islamic Research Academy, just refs to the Al-Azhar El-Sharif Islamic Research Academy.

The Al-Azhar website uses both spellings for sharif
Al-Azhar Al-Sharif

Anonymous · Jun 7, 2009

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Anonymous · Jun 7, 2009

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MongoLloyd;889990 said:

Durr, some (alleged) islamic scholars supposedly signed a note saying TWTH isn't a religious document and seems like okay stuff. Which is true. It's a bunch of uncontroversial platitudes.

They're always pulling this crap for propaganda purposes, show some un-initiated 'authority figure' some totally uncontroversial thing and ask them to approve of it, and then play that as some kind of blanket approval of Scientology.

Which raises the question: Why the fuck are you playing Scientology's game? Why is this being called this an 'approval of Scientology' when it isn't? - which is the whole reason they got them to sign off on it. Nobody would approve of Scientology if they knew the full story.

OP here. First of all, suck a dick bitch. No one here is playing their game. The reason the title is versed the way it is, is because it was versed in such a manner, and presented the same way to scientologists, from scientologists.

What we can use this for, is not clap in tact with the scifags about how much approval they got, it is to make sure that the people who are being used in the propaganda can be made aware hereof, and to make sure that their bullshit is being countered, and their every whisper is put out in the light of day and taken apart as the bullshit it is, piece by piece.

And now untill you start diving down the rabbit hole and come up with leaks and shit, why don't you have a nice sit down and let the adultz pull their dicks at this for a while.

lothar · Jun 7, 2009

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Interesting. Normally I would say Sharief / Sharif, meh. Pretty common phonetical english spelling.

The bigger question is which Al-Azhar El-Sharief and/or Islamic Research Academy is this? There is one in Egypt and I believe a few other al-Azhar's and many many Islamic Research academys.

There was one al-Azhar with like a few hundred million budget. I don't think that is the Eqypt one though.

Anonymous · Jun 7, 2009

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lothar;890072 said:

Interesting. Normally I would say Sharief / Sharif, meh. Pretty common phonetical english spelling.

The bigger question is which Al-Azhar El-Sharief and/or Islamic Research Academy is this? There is one in Egypt and I believe a few other al-Azhar's and many many Islamic Research academys.

There was one al-Azhar with like a few hundred million budget. I don't think that is the Eqypt one though.

Easiest way to figure this out would be to post this on a muslim forum, and ask them for their help, I'm sure they are more than willing to help us figure it out, to warn their fellow muslims.

TinyDancer · Jun 7, 2009

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Ghulam Nabi Mastoi:

TinyDancer · Jun 7, 2009

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Anonymous;890043 said:

The Al-Azhar website uses both spellings for sharif
Al-Azhar Al-Sharif

This site is interesting in that it gives the history of the Al-Azhar University, includes a statement by the "Islamic Research Academy" on Pope Benedict's 2006 speech mentioning an ancient story offensive to muslims and links to the Grand Imam who signed that statement.

MoarXenu to the thread, if you please?

Anonymous · Jun 7, 2009

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MongoLloyd;889990 said:

Which raises the question: Why the fuck are you playing Scientology's game? Why is this being called this an 'approval of Scientology' when it isn't? - which is the whole reason they got them to sign off on it. Nobody would approve of Scientology if they knew the full story.

^See the Way to Happiness booklets on the third shelf? Between the other three shelves of Scientology books? Next to the TV playing the Scientology Introduction video? Behind the cake with the L Ron Hubbard icing?

Anonymous · Jun 7, 2009

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lothar;890072 said:

Interesting. Normally I would say Sharief / Sharif, meh. Pretty common phonetical english spelling.

The bigger question is which Al-Azhar El-Sharief and/or Islamic Research Academy is this? There is one in Egypt and I believe a few other al-Azhar's and many many Islamic Research academys.

There was one al-Azhar with like a few hundred million budget. I don't think that is the Eqypt one though.

If this is a genuine document then it did come from the institute in Cairo. it is signed by Sheikh Ali Abdel Baki the general secretary of the islamic Research Academy
Heretical Librarian: Egyptian Author Threatened with Death

narconon is also making headway into Egypt . The way to happiness book is part of the narconon program
http://www.narcononegypt.com

there are some videos of the narconon center on youtube
YouTube - mnour9's Channel

grokitt · Jun 7, 2009

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YetAnotherAnonymous;890006 said:

THIS

Also, what's the sauce on this document? And has anyone else wondered why there are postage stamps on the doc itself? Every country I've ever been to puts them on the front of the envelope, that's how paid postage works. I smell a $cifake.

The document is shooped, which does not prove original does not exist. Could be they shooped it to make it more aesthetically pleasing. i.e. decorate it wif some stamps and shit. Not uncommon to recreate a doc for presentation purposes to remove the pesky folds or blotches on a letter, or to make the text clearer(what reads well in a doc for print usually doesn't read well directly translated to the web or an email), or simply to make it "prettier".

also, did anyone mention sauce on this? I musta missed it.

OneOneWasARacecar · Jun 7, 2009

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Ogsonofgroo;888930 said:

If this is on the level then HOLY-FRIKKEN-DUH! Time for some serious 'poonings imho.

Yoiks!

O-o

(but that said, this smells of trolls or really crap scilon PR attempt, really, can they be that duh? Well maybe.......sadness)

You may be right. I lived in Dubai for a year and it is illegal for Christians to recruit. They have arrested missionaries before. I can't remember if they jailed them or just deported them. I would not be surprised if this was a hoax. But I also suspect that muslims don't know about Scientology, otherwise the Ayatola for one would declare a Jihad for his for his comments about Mohammed (I'm not sure how seriously they would take the fishman affadavit, though, because obviously it has been obscured - or ocCULTed, if you prefer)

I have thought about a jihad on Scientology before, and I have also thought that a muslim sponsor/host for our audio and other leaks so that they can't be take down would be useful. In Dubai, Sheikh Mohammed is now supreme ruler, and no Scientology court would ever be able to take him to court. If he were interested in hosting a single online resource for anonymous that could have permanent links, it could be very good for anonymous.

DeathHamster · Jun 7, 2009

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OneOneWasARacecar;890347 said:

You may be right. I lived in Dubai for a year and it is illegal for Christians to recruit. They have arrested missionaries before. I can't remember if they jailed them or just deported them. I would not be surprised if this was a hoax. But I also suspect that muslims don't know about Scientology,

Sometimes they're clued in on the shell games with front groups. I'll bet that YHRI and TWTH don't have much luck either.

Egypt jails two Scientologists March 5, 2002, UPI, Human Rights Without Frontiers

Egypt jails two Scientologists

By Issandr El Amrani

United Press International (05.03. 2002) /- HRWF International Secretariat (14.03.2002) C Website Human Rights Without Frontiers - Two members of the Church of Scientology are being held by Egyptian authorities under charges of "contempt of religion." They are accused of trying to spread their doctrines "with the aim of sparking riots."

"Contempt of religion" is a charge that has come up increasingly often in Egypt in recent years.

Similar accusations have been used against other non-mainstream religious groups or to punish groups whose activities are not illegal.

The Church of Scientology has denied that it had sent people to establish a branch in Egypt, saying that the two were representatives of an Italian publishing firm that sold the works of Scientology's founder, L. Ron Hubbard.

"We are greatly concerned at their prolonged detention, which appears to be a violation of their right to freedom of expression," said Leisa Goodman, the Church of Scientology's human rights director. Mahmoud Massarwa, 28, an Israeli citizen of Palestinian origin, and his wife Wafaa Ahmad, 26, were arrested on Dec.24 on suspicions that they were trying to spread Scientology in Egypt and harm Egypt's two main religions, Islam and Christianity.

Proselytizing is illegal in Egypt, where Muslims represent approximately 90 percent of the population and Coptic Christians make up most of the remaining 10 percent. On Feb. 27, a court in the affluent Cairo suburb of Heliopolis extended for 30 days the custody of Massarwa and Ahmad to allow for further police questioning.

According to court sources, they have confessed to investigators that they were sent to spread Scientology's doctrine in Egypt after entering the country on the grounds of establishing an office to promote the publishing firm's interests. In addition, the Middle East News Agency, Egypt's state-owned press agency, reported on Feb. 27 that Ahmad, a Palestinian citizen, had been selected because her nationality "would help win sympathy from the Egyptian people." The couple are accused of "contempt for monotheistic religions by trying to spread a new religious doctrine, Scientology, that damages the principles of Islam and Christianity."

They are also suspected of intending to spread the doctrine "with the aim of spreading riots." The Church of Scientology has denied the charges.

"They were not official representatives of the Church of Scientology," said Goodman. "They were representing the Italian branch of New Era Publications, which publishes the works of L. Ron Hubbard, the founder of Scientology."

Goodman said Massarwa and Ahmad were in Egypt to promote Hubbard's book "Dianetics," which she said does not promote any religion or discuss the subject of religion. She also stressed that the Egyptian censorship authorities had authorized the book's entry into the country.

In Egypt, any imported book or other cultural product must first be approved by a censorship bureau. Works that attack religion, feature graphic sexuality or criticize President Hosni Mubarak's government are frequently banned from entering the country. "Dianetics" is cited, along with other texts by Hubbard, on the Church of Scientology's Web site as an important spiritual underpinning of the religion. International human rights organizations have criticized Egypt for its treatment of Bahais. Between January and April of last year, 17 alleged members of the Bahai faith from the Upper Egyptian governorate of Sohag were arrested and detained without trial. At least 10 of them remain in prison without being granted a trial under charges of debauchery -- including incest. The Bahai faith, which originated in Iran in the late 19th century, is an offshoot of Islam that is considered heretical to mainstream Islam because it denied that Mohammad is the last prophet sent by God. Bahais often face discrimination in the Islamic world.

In February 2001, a U.N. Special Rapporteur noted that in Egypt, "Bahais are not allowed to meet in groups, especially for religious observances, and their literature is destroyed."

In another case, a verdict is expected this week in one of Egypt's State Security Courts -- a parallel system to the normal judicial courts that answers directly to the executive. Six Egyptian nationals are accused of "exploiting religion for extremist ideas with aim of provoking a conflict or of showing scorn or contempt for one of the divinely revealed religions."

The case is widely believed to involve no more than a Muslim sect with unorthodox fasting and praying practices. It isn't only religious groups that are targeted. "Contempt of religion" was also cited as one of the accusations against 52 allegedly homosexual men who were arrested in May 2001 on a floating discotheque on the Nile, the "Queen Boat." The 52 -- 23 of whom were convicted with sentences ranging from one to five years --were also accused of being members of a satanic cult.

The religious charges allowed prosecutors to jail the defendants, since homosexuality is not illegal in Egypt.

The Scientology case, like others before it, is unlikely to elicit much public sympathy. Most Egyptians are conservative and the press -- both state-owned and independent -- has a tendency to run articles echoing the state's position. If convicted, Massarwa and Ahmad may face up to five years in jail. Their next hearing for a trial date to be set will take place at the end of March.

Note that Human Rights Without Frontiers is a legit group, and they are going to approach this from the human right viewpoint. (Too bad they don't look at human rights within, say, the Sea Org.)

TinyDancer · Jun 7, 2009

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grokitt;890310 said:

The document is shooped, which does not prove original does not exist. Could be they shooped it to make it more aesthetically pleasing. i.e. decorate it wif some stamps and shit. Not uncommon to recreate a doc for presentation purposes to remove the pesky folds or blotches on a letter, or to make the text clearer(what reads well in a doc for print usually doesn't read well directly translated to the web or an email), or simply to make it "prettier".

also, did anyone mention sauce on this? I musta missed it.

OP has explained to me how they came across this document and why they wish to keep that secret (in order to maintain the open channel). Any approach the the Islamic Research Academy should ask whether or not the document is genuine, in addition to making whatever representations about the concerns one might have about its content.

moarxenu · Jun 7, 2009

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Since I was called to the thread by TD, here is my take.

The most telling facts are that Ghulam Nabi Mastoi is from Dubai and is probably Pakistani. Neither Ghulam nor Mastoi are common Arabic names. Ghulam is often found among names in Persian and Urdu in Pakistan.

The significance of Dubai is that it extremely open and has lots of money. The LRHcakefags in the pic are ethnically mixed, but note the woman in the Pakistani costume and also European UK and US dudes. One question is: who started this in Dubai? Are these ex-pat publics? And where is the OSAbot is this pic?

As for the doc I am not sure of its authenticity. I actually could be authentic. In his world-dominator grandiosity LRH explicitly exempted TWTH from his "sacred scriptures". It is a jejeune, lowest common dominator moral code. That is to say, it is conceivably consonant with some Islamic values.

al-Azhar is like the Oxford University of Egypt which has continued to be a major center of Islamic learning. Remember the Oxford Capacity Test? Same resonance as al-Azhar. I suspect it is genuine, however, and was purchased at a price. If not, it is the usual OSAfaggotry.

TWTH has now shown up in four places in the Middle East: Lebanon, Israel, the West Bank, and, now, Dubai. What they have in common is they are among the socially freest in the Middle East.

There is a sci video of a Palestinian woman gushing about TWTH providing hope for settlement of the Palestinian - Israeli conflict. There is a similar doc from Lebanon sci touts.

It is laughable. It features a letter from some Leb govt flunky saying TWTH is ok to import into Lebanon.

OSA faces a problem in the Middle East: it cannot send in the VM's. There would be social revolt among Muslims in conservative countries. So TWTH is the wedge until they can establish Dianetics Missions, then bring in the VM's.

I think an effective harpooning strategy is this:

1. Muslim forums
2. The ministry of Health and all professional mental health groups in Dubai, particularly psychs
3. The German Embassy in Dubai

The greatest social threat to Middle Eastern societies is assault on psychology by the "Anti-psychiatry hate group".

The second is it's intent to destroy Shariah law and replace it with Hubbard Ethics. The reference here is the German decision to put sci under surveillance 1887 which explicitly mentions this.

This is equivalent to telling Catholics the group intends to abolish Canon Law, and Jews, the Talmud. This is why I recommend cc'ing the German ambassador in Dubai saying, "Check with him if you want to know what sci is up to. It is on the front page of the site of the Office of the Defense of the Constitution along with Islamorad terrorists."

Harpooning:

This effort is not coming from Dubai Muslims. It is coming from Pakistani Muslims living in Dubai. So the most effective forum we could harpoon is a forum frequented by Pakistani Muslims in Dubai or as near to that as we can get.

The whole business about al-Azhar in Egypt has nothing to do with this. The doc is to impress Pakistani Muslims in Dubai so we might as well take it at face value. We shouldn't waste time about its authenticity.

Here are some talking points for harpooning:

Social:

- Destruction of mental health systems
- Destruction of Shariah law
- Destruction of school systems

Theological:

- Shirk: this is the greatest sin in Islam. Moar below.
- Destruction of shariah law
- Sci lies about the compatibility of Islam
- Elder abuse
- Blasphemous insults to the Prophet (pbuh)

This should be sufficient to enraeg Muslims.

Shirk: this is the sin of associating anything human with God such as saints, sacred objects other than the Quran, magic, and the occult.

In sci, "There is no god but Hubbard, and Hubbard is his prophet." The central category is not God, but the thetan. Thetans are, like God, eternal, without beginning and without end. This is Islamic blasphemy as is Hubbard replacing God with himself.

Elder abuse: The Prophet (pbuh) was an orphan, thus there is a huge Islamic cultural, social, and religious imperative to help widows and orphans. Furthermore Islamic societies with the exception of Bosnia are still largely traditional and patriarchal. They respect elders and it unthinkable to abandon the elder members of your family and clan.

Anonymous, you know what to do,.

TinyDancer · Jun 7, 2009

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Moar, your post is valuable in the EXTREME.

moarxenu;890411 said:

The whole business about al-Azhar in Egypt has nothing to do with this. The doc is to impress Pakistani Muslims in Dubai so we might as well take it at face value. We shouldn't waste time about its authenticity.

The only issue I'd take with what you've said is this: the document gives us an opportunity to make contact with al-Azhar and to provide information about how TWTH is considered by Scientology as a strategic means to get in other teachings of Hubbard to the society.

lothar · Jun 7, 2009

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It's good for the topics to bring up, but I would leave Shariah law abolishing out of it. I doubt any living or dead scilon has every mentioned this, and you can also make the case that Hubbard ethics can live alongside Shariah laws.

It also makes your argument look weaker when you appear to be grasping for straws by trying alarmist arguments like attacking Shariah. I think wanting to open up offices to sell their religious books is good enough reason. They prey upon people at their most torubled times and try to extract as much money as they can.

Definately the school system stuff and also throw in a 'religion based on a 50s sci-fi author paranoid writings'.

Anonymous · Jun 7, 2009

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lothar;890454 said:

It's good for the topics to bring up, but I would leave Shariah law abolishing out of it. I doubt any living or dead scilon has every mentioned this, and you can also make the case that Hubbard ethics can live alongside Shariah laws.

Hmm... me thinks you don't know the depth and breadth of Shariah law.

Shariah law includes civil and criminal law. It's not just "a personal thing". It's cultural, and governmental in many areas.

Hubbardian ethics and justice codes are not compatible with Shariah law. For one, Hubbard forbids any Scientologist to report outside of Scientology any crime or civil dispute, and forbids approaching any civil or criminal outside organization to obtain justice outside of Scientology.

This means: no police, no courts, no suing, no reporting to the Labor Dept, no calling the cops when your husband beats you, in some cases even divorces are put on hold until "agreements" are made within Scientology; no having your lawyer write a letter to your fellow scientologist demanding payment long past due; no threatening to call the cops if the redge doesn't get off your lawn.

Getting the picture yet?

Any semblence of Shariah law would be an "outside justice" to Scientology.

And muslims get pretty testy about anyone coming between them and the practice of their faith, even if that means someone coming between them and their LAW.

Don't mix up Shariah law with what the TV media blab about... terrorist factions attempting to drag pakistanis/afghans back into the Middle Ages. That's not a fair picture of what Shariah law is.

Google is your friend.

TinyDancer · Jun 7, 2009

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I think the point you are making has to do with Scientology's grand scheme to replace all other legal systems (not necessarily mentioning Sharia law). It's a decent point. Perhaps a referral to the German government report would suffice?

In German: http://www.stmi.bayern.de/imperia/md/content/stmi/service/publikationen/das_system_scientology.pdf

In English (without the graphics): http://www.stmi.bayern.de/imperia/m...fassungsschutz/scientology/system_so_engl.pdf

Both links are to a German Government website.

Anonymous · Jun 7, 2009

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TinyDancer;890525 said:

I think the point you are making has to do with Scientology's grand scheme to replace all other legal systems

Anonymous · Jun 7, 2009

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From the scientology ethics book.

Suppressive Acts are defined as actions or omissions undertaken to knowingly suppress, reduce or impede Scientology or Scientologists.

A. ATTACKS ON SCIENTOLOGY AND SCIENTOLOGISTS

1. Proposing, advising or voting for legislation or ordinances, rules or laws directed towards the Suppression of Scientology.

2. Testifying hostilely before state or public inquiries into Scientology to suppress it.

3. Public statements against Scientology or Scientologists but not to Committees of Evidence duly convened.

4. Reporting or threatening to report Scientology or Scientologists to civil authorities in an effort to suppress Scientology or Scientologists from practicing or receiving standard Scientology.

5. Bringing civil suit against any Scientology Organization or Scientologist including the non-payment of bills or failure to refund without first calling the matter to the attention of the Chairman at World Wide and receiving a reply.

7. Testifying as a hostile witness against Scientology in public.

16. Delivering up the person of a Scientologist without defense or protest to the demands of civil or criminal law.

If is a suppressive act to do any of the above. If you commit suppressive acts, you can be expelled from scientology.

So anyone testifying in a shariah law court would be kicked out of scientology.

If that's not an incentive to NOT use shariah law, then I dunno what is.

Muslims take note: Scientology is NOT compatible with Islam.

Nataku · Jun 8, 2009

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OneOneWasARacecar;890347 said:

You may be right. I lived in Dubai for a year and it is illegal for Christians to recruit. They have arrested missionaries before. I can't remember if they jailed them or just deported them. I would not be surprised if this was a hoax. But I also suspect that muslims don't know about Scientology, otherwise the Ayatola for one would declare a Jihad for his for his comments about Mohammed (I'm not sure how seriously they would take the fishman affadavit, though, because obviously it has been obscured - or ocCULTed, if you prefer)

L. Ron Hubbard's "What's Wrong with This Universe: A Working Package for the Auditor", December 9th, 1952:[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbfDKf2lG-0"]YouTube - Scientology laughs at Islam : ([/ame]

Anonymous · Jun 8, 2009

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The Scientology Handbook:

Anonymous · Jun 8, 2009

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You guys are creative. That Scientology Handbook picture tells exactly where Hubbard and David Miscavige places Scientology in comparison to all religions.

I seem to recall some other lectures where Hubbard talks about Scientology being senior to other religions, but I don't recall where that is.

Anonymous · Jun 8, 2009

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Anonymous;890844 said:

I seem to recall some other lectures where Hubbard talks about Scientology being senior to other religions, but I don't recall where that is.

I recall hearing that lecture as well.

Hubbard somewhere stated that Scientology is senior to all other religions. Can anyone dredge this up?

JohnnyRUClear · Jun 8, 2009

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Well, he says over and over that it's the only hope for the planet. Right?

DeathHamster · Jun 8, 2009

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JohnnyRUClear;891712 said:

Well, he says over and over that it's the only hope for the planet. Right?

Of course, since Jesus and Buddha were barely above Clear.

JohnnyRUClear · Jun 9, 2009

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DeathHamster;891721 said:

Of course, since Jesus and Buddha were barely above Clear.

How can an implant "be" anything?

Anonymous · Jun 9, 2009

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JohnnyRUClear;891768 said:

How can an implant "be" anything?

Yes, that's funny and all... but LRH also said things about Jesus and Moses and Mohammed as being people. Hubbard trash is full of contradictions. He catered to all viewpoints.

Johnny Thunder · Jun 9, 2009

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"The Church of Scientology has denied that it had sent people to establish a branch in Egypt, saying that the two were representatives of an Italian publishing firm that sold the works of Scientology's founder, L. Ron Hubbard."

Hahaha. Here is what David is trying to say;

"IRS, we are not a business, we are a religion. We demand our religious rights and tax cuts!"

"Muslims, this is just a business, not a bloody religion, relax already!"

Gotta love that doublespeaking jive motherfucker sometimes....

OneOneWasARacecar · Jun 12, 2009

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Johnny Thunder;891804 said:

"The Church of Scientology has denied that it had sent people to establish a branch in Egypt, saying that the two were representatives of an Italian publishing firm that sold the works of Scientology's founder, L. Ron Hubbard."

Hahaha. Here is what David is trying to say;

"IRS, we are not a business, we are a religion. We demand our religious rights and tax cuts!"

"Muslims, this is just a business, not a bloody religion, relax already!"

Gotta love that doublespeaking jive motherfucker sometimes....

Yup. I love that Orwellian double-think.

We are a religion/We are not a religion
We are not a UFO cult/If you publish our UFO cult stories we will go after you.
"We do not practice disconnection"-Tommy Davis/"You cannot talk to your mother"
"There was no Christ"/Jesus was a paedofile

I've been noticing lots of contradictions in the tech as well.

Anonymous · Jun 12, 2009

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Muslims seem to think its fake...

Islam In View -> Al-Azhar El-Sharief Approves of Scientology???

[ emo-salaam.gif ]

I went through the links, and I think the Azhar endorsement is fake. Here's why

[A] I have read Azhar endorsements, both in Arabic and English, in the past, and the letterhead will have the Basmalah [ emo-bismillah.gif ] at the top, and their logo at the left.

The usual spelling I have seen of Azhar's adjective is Sharif, not sharief. I doubt that Al-Azhar would have changed their format in such a fashion.

They do have stamps on their endorsement letters, as in the link. But my perception is that this endorsement is fake. In Egypt, it is very common for documents to be forged. I can't imagine that they would rubberstamp a publication by someone who has hostility towards Islam and Muslims.

[ emo-salaam.gif ]

Most likely br. Waheed is correct. It seems to be fake.

Fauq

nadeemaijaz · Aug 5, 2009

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here is more details of Ghulam Nabi Mastoi. ihave found another link in search.

index

Zak McKracken · Aug 5, 2009

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nadeemaijaz;960209 said:

here is more details of Ghulam Nabi Mastoi. ihave found another link in search.

index

Interesting.

How did you come across this link?

The page 'hit counter' at the bottom is interesting too.

stc · Apr 12, 2010

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Geocities is dead

Zak McKracken · Apr 12, 2010

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stc;1221151 said:

Geocities is dead

I don't remember exactly wtf that was about,
but I think it was a page "nadeemaijaz" copypastaed something into.

(the hit counter read "3 visitors!" or something of the sort)

Nothing of value pretty much.

ShahAlamAnon · Jan 4, 2011

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bump, relevant for this thread

http://forums.whyweprotest.net/291-scientology-discussion/scientology-now-malaysia-75629/

Eggsgloriouseggs · Feb 21, 2011

Hey guys, just stumbled on this forum and I'm really loving the investigation here. I'm a reporter for a leading newspaper here. Can someone who helped dredge up some of the pics (including the gloriously absurd picture of the LRH cake) please PM me?

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