Beware India

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  1. ETHANHALL Member

    Beware India

    Scientology is no "school". Be very careful. Scientology is a dangerous very expensive CULT.

    Express India 16, June 2008 » Story

    Delhi hits upon a hip how-to solution: the school of scientology
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    Posted online: Monday , June 16, 2008 at 11:34:28
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    New Delhi, June 15 Find out what’s keeping you away from your desired goals: four hours cost Rs 980, reads a poster in a sprawling house in upmarket Hauz Khas Enclave. And that includes a book. One of the brightly coloured varieties decked on shelves in the reception, one presumes while waiting to meet Horst Tubbesing, executive director of Delhi’s centre for scientology.
    Ever since its inception here in March 2002, scientology has slowly been spreading its wings, with 1,700 active members and over 12,000 people who have attended lectures, bought books or visited the centre. Scientology in Delhi, however, is broached far less as a religion than for its multitude of self-help courses. Says one practitioner (name withheld), “I’m not a scientologist. I don’t even know what that means. But its tools work for me.”

    With the centre offering over 50 courses ranging from ‘How To Resolve Conflicts’ to ‘Create Better Relationships’, a growing culture of self-help is leading Delhiites to its shores.

    “We are not trying to convert people,” Tubbesing says.

    Whereas in other countries its branches are known as Churches of Scientology, in India the words church and mission are avoided. Meghna Budhia exemplifies this disconnection of scientology from religion in India. “I am a Hindu, but I believe in the application of scientology,” she says.

    Instead, proving most popular in Delhi is ‘study technology’, based on Hubbard’s premise that the only reason a person gives up studying is when he or she has gone past a word not understood.

    Those who have taken the course claim it works. Like many, Jatin Kapadia (name changed on request) from Doon School was introduced to scientology through hearing about its impact on, arguably its most famous ambassador: US actor Tom Cruise. And in a letter to the centre he writes how the course helped him overcome dyslexia. Now in Class XII, Kapadia reports a dramatic improvement in his grades.

    Results, however, come at a price: the course in communications, for instance, costs Rs 3,500 for 35 hours, and Hubbard’s lecture packs can set you back anywhere from Rs 6,400 to Rs 12,600.

    For both Kapadia and Budhia, however, money is no barrier. “I want to learn everything scientology teaches, compared to the gains the cost is nothing,” Budhia says.

    At the centre’s cafe are businessmen, students looking for jobs, and even housewives. So, what is it that draws people to scientology? While Tubbesing says the course is for everyone, Kapadia muses: “Those troubled, looking for answers beyond the everyday.”

    But for its critics, especially vocal in the US and Britain, scientology poses a number of problems. Most famously denounced in a report by Time magazine in 1991, and again in a BBC investigation last year, scientology is no stranger to controversy.

    But protests by activists such as Anonymous, campaigning to close down scientology, are absent in India. “We have not faced any hostility in Delhi,” Tubbesing confirms.

    For Nikhil Kumar, 23, however, scientology is unsettling. Curiosity led him to the centre in 2005, where after filling in the introductory ‘personality test’ he was informed which courses he required to reach his potential. What irked Kumar was a “business-like” set-up: “Money and religion can’t go hand in hand. You shouldn’t need to pay to learn its thoughts.”

    Bombarded with e-mails, leaflets and phone calls trying to persuade him to join courses, some offering 40 per cent discounts, Kumar says, he was “most put off by them selling a product”.

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  2. ages Member

    Beware India

    Smokers who visit India better be careful about where they choose to light up, or they might just find themselves faced with... wait for it... a $5 fine.Yes, India has just become the latest in a long line of countries to ban smoking in public places, including hospitals, train stations, and even bars. Government officials who supported the legislation, which was passed on the birthday of India's most famous non-smoker, say that the ban is necessary to protect the health of India's roughly 120 million smokers, half of whom are under 30



  3. PalestiniAnon Member

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    I'd be surprised if the Hindus stood for this shit for long. They're not stupid :D
  4. DamOTclese Member

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    I would expect that the Scientology crooks could easily swindle Indians out of a lot of money if they perform their scamming just the right way. India has a lot of "God Men" criminals rooking and swindling the gullible rubes, and the Scientology crime syndicate could probably make a whole lot of money before the law enforcement authorities start arresting them.

    The more religious a populace is, the easier it is to rook money out of them. People who believe in gods, pixies, vampires, and no end of insane shit are prime targets for criminal enterprises like Scientology -- when the cultist has money, of course.
  5. Zak McKracken Member

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    More to the point, and without calling the Indians clueless rubes (as you seem to imply), India has a huege and famously fractured landscape of religious practices. In most countries, most people have a pretty good idea of what their neighbors worship or believe, and in most parts of the world (outside big cities) there's a lot of homogeneity- most of your neighbors are likely to be similar to yourself.

    In parts of India, there are dense ethnic/religious centers of Hindu and Islam tradition, but in other regions, you've got everything mixed in randomly. And India DOES NOT HAVE A REAL HUEGE TRADITION OF RELIGIOUS TOLERANCE. :( Tolerance, not h8ing and not trying to kill your neighbor who believes something wack, is still a relatively new and foreign phenomenon. Most regional and national government members have their work cut out, smoothing over differences and getting people to not fuck shit up.

    I would guess it much more likely that police/etc will be concerned and unhappy with religious protesters, than religious cultists who otherwise behave themselves. (because religious protesters, historically, tend to be the ones who fuck shit up for everyone)
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    One centre isn't going to do much harm to a population of 1.148 billion. It's still some harm, though.
  7. goodboy5 Member

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    who knows they kidnaps people and wash their brains to be scifags.
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