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Benedict Cumberbatch plays Julian Assange in The Fifth Estate

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    Published by The Fifth Estate on July 16, 2013

    A dramatic thriller based on real events, The Fifth Estate reveals the quest to expose the deceptions and corruptions of power that turned an Internet upstart into the 21st century's most fiercely debated organization.

    Triggering our age of high-stakes secrecy, explosive news leaks and the trafficking of classified information, WikiLeaks forever changed the game. Now, in a dramatic thriller based on real events, The Fifth Estate reveals the quest to expose the deceptions and corruptions of power that turned an Internet upstart into the 21st century's most fiercely debated organization. The story begins as WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange (Benedict Cumberbatch) and his colleague Daniel Domscheit-Berg (Daniel Brühl) team up to become underground watchdogs of the privileged and powerful. On a shoestring, they create a platform that allows whistleblowers to anonymously leak covert data, shining a light on the dark recesses of government secrets and corporate crimes. Soon, they are breaking more hard news than the world's most legendary media organizations combined. But when Assange and Berg gain access to the biggest trove of confidential intelligence documents in U.S. history, they battle each other and a defining question of our time: what are the costs of keeping secrets in a free society — and what are the costs of exposing them?"

    Bill Condon explains The Fifth Estate trailer, starring Benedict Cumberbatch as Julian Assange

    www.vulture.com/2013/07/bill-condon-explains-the-fifth-estate-trailer.html

    Benedict Cumberbatch Is Julian Assange In "The Fifth Estate" Trailer

    www.buzzfeed.com/jordanzakarin/benedict-cumberbatch-is-julian-assange-dashing-silver-fox-in

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  4. The Wrong Guy Member

    Sorry for the distraction. I forgot you were nailin' Palin.
  5. Enturbulette Member

    :) no distraction, I stopped nailin when she at last, ahem, finished herself off. Been thinking about a name change lately as the name is rather an albatross around my neck and also a relic of on old fight. Think I'll go do that right now actually.

    Well I've slipped on something much more comfortable. As for this movie, my impression from the trailer is it's some kind of propaganda exercise, albeit a subtle one. Nothing to base that on but fallible gut instinct of course, and that awful music swelling type soundtrack that Dreamworks can never seem to shake. That's already enough emotional manipulation for me.
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  6. Anonymous Member

    I love that guy. He has a androgynous look about him- perfect.
  7. Enturbulette Member

    I think they made his hair into a separate character, and that's just from catching the trailer. It flips, it glimmers..it shimmers....! :eek:
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  8. Kilia Member

    Benedict Cumberbatch:

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  9. Anonymous Member

    Looking forward to this one.
  10. Anonymous Member

    BC, along with Robert Carlyse, did act in something called The Last Enemy which was about government spying going crazy. So maybe....
  11. Enturbulette Member

    I rather liked The Last Enemy and got drawn into it's short run. Of course its premise of total surveillance was completely based on reality, not sci fi after all. The guy that played the girl's father is also Rumplestilzken on Once Upon a Time - a wonderful Scottish actor.
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    7 Forces Of Nature That Have Emerged From The Fifth Estate

    You may not be outright familiar with The Fifth Estate, but the truth is that it’s all around you. In today’s digitally-driven democracy, there’s a working community of self-appointed watchdogs promoting transparency from right behind a computer screen. A dramatic thriller based on real events, The Fifth Estate details one hotly-debated organization’s quest to expose deception and bring information to light. In theaters October 18.

    1. Anonymous

    With the industrialization of technology came hacktivism, and the vigilant defense of ideas thanks to Anonymous via 4chan — online soldiers who use the Internet as their medium of change. They’ve expanded from their humorous roots to stand up for freedom of information, and hand out digital doses of reality to organizations publicly stepping out of line.

    Continued at www.buzzfeed.com/fifthestate/7-forces-of-nature-that-have-emerged-from-the-fifth-estate
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  14. The Wrong Guy Member

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    Toronto International Film Festival unveils this year's star studded list of film premieres and galas

    Audiences at this year’s Toronto International Film Festival looking for escapism may feel they’ve turned on the news instead, with a clutch of movies based on real-life events that are continuing to play out even as the festival approaches.

    Among the more than 70 galas and special presentations announced on Tuesday was the festival’s opening night film, The Fifth Estate, a thriller about the Wikileaks founder Julian Assange and his battles with governments, the press, and some of his now-estranged colleagues. Directed by Bill Condon and starring Benedict Cumberbatch as the Australian-born activist, the film is based in part on a book by Daniel Domscheit-Berg, who served as a Wikileaks spokesman before quitting the organization in 2010 after a falling-out with Assange.

    Last year’s festival included a TV movie about the teenaged Assange, but the new film, which will have its world premiere at TIFF, comes as the U.S. government is again vexed by leaks about its intelligence programs.

    “This is one of the most timely stories right now,” said Cameron Bailey, the festival’s artistic director. “I can’t think of anybody who doesn’t have all kinds of information about themselves online. Governments have access to that, in some cases the companies that we put our trust in have access to that. Assange is somebody who began asking questions, and began looking for transparency in terms of how that information is disseminated, and I think that’s something we all need to think about.”

    In the film’s trailer, one character (played by Stanley Tucci) says of Assange, “He’s not a journalist, he’s a threat to national security,” echoing recent attacks on both the former intelligence worker Edward Snowden and The Guardian’s Glenn Greenwald, who reported the recent leaks about the National Security Agency’s operations.

    More at
    www.theglobeandmail.com/arts/awards-and-festivals/tiff/tiff-announces-a-star-studded-list-of-film-premieres/article13361564/
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    Does Benedict Cumberbatch Do Justice to Julian Assange? Here's What the Critics Are Saying | Indiewire

    While most critics were underwhelmed by the Toronto International Film Festival's opening night selection, Bill Condon's WikiLeaks thriller "The Firth Estate," they all sang praises of the film's lead star Benedict Cumberbatch, who portrays WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange in the DreamWorks release.

    While Condon and writer Josh Singer’s account of the WikiLeaks controversy in the form of a dramatic thriller has been called "unfocused" and "familiar," Cumberbatch’s performance has been placed in the limelight for its depth and detail in displaying "a jittery intensity comparable to Jessie Eisenberg's similarly passionate techie in David Fincher's 'The Social Network.'"

    Check out what critics have to say about "The Fifth Estate"'s Cumberbatch-Assange portrayal:

    www.indiewire.com/article/the-fifth-estate-benedict-cumberbatchs-portrayal-outshines-a-disappointing-tiff-opening
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  16. The Wrong Guy Member

    WikiLeaks Blasts Dreamworks' 'The Fifth Estate' Movie Version In 4,000-Word Memo

    WikiLeaks is not happy with Disney and DreamWorks' adaptation of the news-leaking site.

    Wednesday night, a leaked script for upcoming film "The Fifth Estate" wound up online from none other than WikiLeaks.

    After tweeting about the film and its lead actor Benedict Cumberbatch much of Wednesday, WikiLeaks published a complete version of the script along with a lengthy 4,000-word memo tearing apart the film bullet point by bullet point.

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/wikileaks-tears-apart-dreamworks-adaptation-163800946.html

    "The Fifth Estate"

    The motion picture screenplay

    WikiLeaks release: 23:00 GMT, September 18, 2013

    http://wikileaks.org/IMG/html/wikileaks-dreamworks-memo.html
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    Benedict Cumberbatch to Assange: 'The Fifth Estate' Won't Be That Bad | Mashable

    Excerpt:

    "I tried to justify my reasons for doing the project," Cumberbatch, 37, told press at a Toronto International Film Festival roundtable earlier this month. "It mattered to me a lot that he felt so passionately, but I wanted to persuade him that it wasn't necessarily going to be as bad as he feared it would be."

    Cumberbatch said an older draft of The Fifth Estate script had leaked to the 42-year-old Assange, who described it as "a mass propaganda attack against WikiLeaks, the organization and the character of my staff." (The film is partly based on the tell-all book, Inside WikiLeaks: My Time with Julian Assange at the World's Most Dangerous Website by former spokesman Daniel Domscheit-Berg, with whom Assange famously clashed.)

    Director Bill Condon, 57, rejected Assange's assessment outright.

    "It's in no way an attack on WikiLeaks," he told Mashable in an interview at TIFF. "It's a celebration of WikiLeaks and what it set out to do. It is occasionally critical of Assange, and one of his tactics is to kind of conflate the two ideas so that anything that might be critical of him becomes, as he says, 'a propaganda attack.'"

    Still, WikiLeaks isn't backing down. The website recently posted what it is calling a "mature version" of The Fifth Estate script, along with a memo that condemns the film as "irresponsible, counterproductive and harmful."

    http://mashable.com/2013/09/29/benedict-cumberbatch-the-fifth-estate-julian-assange/
  18. Kilia Member

    Benedict Cumberbatch also stared as Stephen Hawking in "Hawking", another movie. Brilliant actor, simply brilliant.
  19. The Wrong Guy Member

    Assange releases Cumberbatch film letter | Sky News Australia

    WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange refused to meet the actor who plays him in a Hollywood movie because he didn't want to endorse a 'wretched film' and a 'talented but debauched performance'.

    Benedict Cumberbatch, who stars in 'The Fifth Estate', revealed last month he considered quitting the film after Assange wrote him a 'very considered, thorough, charming and intelligent account' of why he shouldn't participate.

    Now Assange has released the full text of that letter he sent to the British actor in mid-January.

    In an accompanying note on Wednesday he slammed the Bill Condon-directed film as 'a geriatric snoozefest that only the US government could love'.

    Assange's letter to Cumberbatch makes clear the former computer hacker respected the actor as 'a good person' but he feared the film was 'going to be overwhelmingly negative for me and the people I care about'.

    'I believe you are well intentioned but surely you can see why it is a bad idea for me to meet with you,' Assange wrote in January after Cumberbatch requested a meeting.

    'By meeting with you I would validate this wretched film and endorse the talented, but debauched, performance that the script will force you to give.

    'I cannot permit this film any claim to authenticity or truthfulness.'

    Assange asks the actor to reconsider his involvement in a project which 'vilifies and marginalises a living political refugee' in favour of a corrupt and dangerous state.

    The Australian argues films are powerful and insidious shapers of public perception and 'The Fifth Estate' will smother the truth.

    Continued at http://www.skynews.com.au/showbiz/article.aspx?id=913756
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    All good points, and so fucking true.
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  21. Anonymous Member

    Benedict Cumberbatch?

    IS that his real name? My God!!! IT sounds like a very bad porn star.

    Anyway, i am still boycotting Hollywood over that sopa garbage. So the only way i will see this movie, is by checking it out from my public library.
  22. EveStropping Member

    Benedict Timothy Carlton Cumberbatch , I had a quick check on Wiki just to be sure.
  23. Anonymous Member

    Cumberbatch's full response can be found at this link: http://insidemovies.ew.com/2013/10/11/benedict-cumberbatch-julian-assange/

    Best comment:
    http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1o8l5f/i_am_benedict_cumberbatch_ama/ccpri70?context=3
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  24. The Wrong Guy Member

    The Fifth Estate: soft on Assange, short on excitement | The Guardian

    Benedict Cumberbatch's uncanny portrayal of the WikiLeaks founder aside, the most significant moments result from a few keystrokes on a laptop – as in reality.

    http://www.theguardian.com/film/2013/oct/16/the-fifth-estate-julian-assange-wikileaks

    Fifth Estate a stimulating but overly frenetic docudrama about rise of WikiLeaks | The Associated Press

    http://ca.news.yahoo.com/film-review-5th-estate-stimulating-overly-frenetic-docudrama-102011563.html
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    http://www.guampdn.com/usatoday/article/2985405
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    WikiLeaks film bombs | WENN

    A biopic of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange has flopped at the UK box office, taking a pitiful £502,000 in its opening weekend and failing to even dent the top five.

    The Fifth Estate charts the story of the controversial whistleblowing website, but Assange has branded it "inaccurate" and predicted it would fail to impress viewers - and he has been proved right.

    The movie has been left languishing in a lowly sixth position, behind five movies which have been showing for weeks.

    http://www.3news.co.nz/WikiLeaks-film-bombs/tabid/418/articleID/317720/Default.aspx
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    Movie Review: 2 1/2 stars - 'The Fifth Estate' gets the Web right — the rest, not so much

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    Cumberbatch goes a long way toward explaining Assange's strange charisma with just subtle changes of expression. That's why it's hard to understand why the screenwriters feel the need to lob in random chunks of personal information to flesh out Assange's psyche.

    This compulsion for exposition comes to a head at the movie's end, when the filmmakers have their characters explain to each other (and so to us) why everything that just happened was really important.

    http://www.jsonline.com/entertainme...e-rest-not-so-much-b99119199z1-228216041.html
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    ‘Wikileaks’ Film Flops At Box Office | Deadline via Fox News

    Placing #6 is DreamWorks Studios’ The Fifth Estate flopping worse than forecast with only $700K for Friday and just a $2M weekend even factoring its low 1,769 theatre count. The per screen average looks to be $1,102 meaning each location is playing nearly empty. This hyperbolic melodrama earned only a ‘B-’ CinemaScore from audiences which won’t help word of mouth. Its multiple trailers and high-spend TV ads were as misguided as WikiLeaker Julian Assange played by Benedict Cumberbatch who deserved way better than director Bill Condon. (He helmed among the worst reviewed installments of the Twilight series - Breaking Dawn 1 and 2.) With the exception of The Help and Steven Spielberg’s Oscar bait Lincoln, DreamWorks CEO Stacey Snider just keeps presiding over disappointing theatrical openings like I Am Number Four, Cowboys & Aliens, Fright Night, Real Steel, Spielberg’s own War Horse, and now this. Given how small the studio’s annual output is, you’d think Snider could stop whining about financing long enough to oversee better product.

    Source, and a link to the full article:
    http://nation.foxnews.com/2013/10/19/‘wikileaks’-film-flops-box-office
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    Box office disaster: Benedict Cumberbatch's 'The Fifth Estate' has worst debut of 2013 | Entertainment Weekly

    The Fifth Estate bombed in its opening weekend with a truly awful $1.7 million from 1,769 theaters, making it the worst debut for a film opening in at least 1,500 theaters this year... The film, which cost Disney a reported $26 million to produce, earned tepid reviews from critics and could only manage an anemic $969 location average.

    Full article and open comments:
    http://insidemovies.ew.com/2013/10/20/box-office-disaster-benedict-cumberbatch-the-fifth-estate/
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  31. i cannot even get into any of this at all.
    Lost all care. This shit is straight up fiction bullshit for profit.

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  32. Anonymous Member

    http://blog.erratasec.com/2013/10/the-fifth-estate-consensual.html

    "The Fifth Estate": a consensual hallucination

    By Robert Graham

    The movie "The Fifth Estate" is about Julian Assange and Wikileaks. I thought I'd write up some comments, as an expert in the hacker culture from which this thing arose.

    The big debate is about what the movie gets "right" and what the movie gets "wrong" about Wikileaks and Assange. This debate is meaningless, because even the "truth" about Wikileaks is "false".

    For example, if you read Wikipedia (same prefix "wiki", but no relation) on "Wikileaks", you'll see numerous falsehoods. Wikipedia credits Wikileaks with lots of leaks they had nothing to do with, such as the Sarah Palin e-mails, Climategate e-mails, and Scientology manuals. In these three cases, I personally downloaded the same content onto my computer from other sources hours, days, or years (respectively) before they became available on the Wikileaks site. Wikileaks plagiarized and took credit for these leaks -- but was in no way responsible for the leaks themselves.

    Even in the case of non-plagiarized leaks, such as the Bradley/Chelsea Manning leaks, how much credit does Wikileaks deserve vs. the traditional newspapers and Manning herself/himself? It's Manning who did the work getting the content, and it's the newspapers who did the work putting the leaks in context, taking meaningless diplomatic jargon and explaining why it mattered.
    ...
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    Benedict Cumberbatch Movie Leads 2013 Flop List | Entertainmentwise

    Benedict Cumberbatch may be one of the most popular actors in the world right now, but he clearly isn't enough of a draw to save a film from total disaster.

    The Fifth Estate, which starred the British thesp as Wikileaks founder Julian Assange, has been named the biggest box office flop of the year after it managed to make back only 21% of its budget in ticket sales.

    The biopic made a tiny $6 million globally, according to Forbes' data; no doubt struggling amid condemnation from Assange himself and a string of bad reviews. The gross tallies up badly compared to the film's huge $28 million budget - which doesn't even factor in the money spent on marketing.

    http://www.entertainmentwise.com/news/134046/Benedict-Cumberbatch-Movie-Leads-2013-Flop-List

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