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AO & Graham Berry surveys Gold Base

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  1. Smurf Member

    AO & Graham Berry surveys Gold Base

    AO, Graham Berry & surveyors were at Gold Base last week fetching evidence for AO's upcoming trial.

    Regardless of personal opinions about AO, he has posted some interesting photos over on ESMB (yes, he's been un-banned).

    Surveying land at Gold Base for AnonOrange's defese. - Ex Scientologist Message Board

    Thorough enjoyed watching Kevin Caetano (OSAwhore Kirsten's hubby) having a meltdown in the guard shack.
  2. Anonymous Member

    Re: AO & Graham Berry surveys Gold Base

    That's quite an interesting list of information Grahame has demanded in the subpoena.
    If they don't produce I imagine that would mean contempt charges. If that do produce it, they worsen their legal exposure on several levels some related to this case some related to other ongoing issues.
    Nice going, Grahame.
  3. TomVorm Member

    Re: AO & Graham Berry surveys Gold Base

    A key test will be the court's perception of the reasonableness of the data requests.

    In past cases the standard response was that the requests of that nature were "overly broad" or "unduly burdensome," and in reply the data requests will have to be shown to be necessary to the defense of AO on a point-by-point basis.

    Hearings on discovery motions like these, have a tendency to prejudice the trial judge.
    How opposing counsel conducts themselves, will have an effect on rulings during the trial itself.
  4. Anonymous Member

    Re: AO & Graham Berry surveys Gold Base

    On the other hand, these are Scientologists, beings which are worth more than mere humans. They can just destroy the evidence and pretend it doesn't exist.
  5. Anonymous Member

    Re: AO & Graham Berry surveys Gold Base

    AO could give us the single hueg victory that ends the Cult, and could cost the Cult millions in compensation.

    I hope that AO gets to move out of his trailer into a million dollar mansion - he's earned it!
  6. BlooAnon Member

    Re: AO & Graham Berry surveys Gold Base

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  7. MongoLloyd Member

    Re: AO & Graham Berry surveys Gold Base

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  8. Anonymous Member

    Re: AO & Graham Berry surveys Gold Base

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  9. Anonymous Member

    Re: AO & Graham Berry surveys Gold Base

    You pathetic lump of cancer... How the fuck did he "earn" anything? How the hell can this be a victory? At best he gets charges dropped.

    Fact, some drama whore ran on to private property and told people to fuck off instead of returning to the road. Yes, some security guards should have called the police or tried to escort him back on to private property, but they tackled him instead.

    There is no way in hell AO sees a penny.
    - for one thing he has to beat criminal charges
    - then he has to file civil suit against Golden Era, and security guards
    - then a judge has to not throw out case
    - then he has to convince a jury that he is a victim AFTER seeing the video of him on private property being a complete asshole and saying fuck you to everyone telling him to get off private property
    - then they have to hear about him biting people

    He might some day (after wasting years of GB's life) win a settlement against two security guards who by the way have noi money and/or have left the country.


    At any rate, NOTICE all the photos and survey work and AO fails to point out the surveyor confirms he was on private property at the site of his attack.

    He hasn't changed one bit, he's now on to new conspiracies.. and still can't help being in front of any audience and rambling on about how he is a victim and how he was savagely brutalized and other ranting. He also has the nerve to have fucking car magnet with Anonymous on it.. The ultimate failfag.
  10. Oswald2001 Member

    Re: AO & Graham Berry surveys Gold Base

    Good job AO & GB!

    Keep it up.

    I would love to see the Predatory Evil $pace Alien Mind Control CULT's legal bills on this one.
  11. Anonymous Member

    Re: AO & Graham Berry surveys Gold Base

    Wait, where did it say that?
  12. Anonymous Member

    Re: AO & Graham Berry surveys Gold Base

    Without a doubt, the best Baaaawwwww I've read today.
  13. muldrake Member

    Re: AO & Graham Berry surveys Gold Base

    Fact, nobody's proven anything of the sort.
  14. Anonymous Member

    Re: AO & Graham Berry surveys Gold Base

    Yep, this is many orders of magnitude bigger than those Scientology top officials who were busted and criminally convicted end of 70s for domestic espionage.
  15. Anonymous Member

    Re: AO & Graham Berry surveys Gold Base

    At least you got your signature line right.
  16. FUCK Member

    Re: AO & Graham Berry surveys Gold Base

    ahhh. home sweet home.
  17. Zak McKracken Member

    Re: AO & Graham Berry surveys Gold Base

    You're comparing Anons to Oranges, friend.

    The events in the 70s *could* have been the beginning of The End, if there had been any widespread reporting, any public consciousness or awareness of it, and if the Feds had bothered looking a little more closely into the organization that spawned those officials.

    Today, there's a great deal more public awareness, quite a lot more news coverage. Hard to say if Feds or the Courts are more likely to get moving in the present climate-
    but if the direct legal precedent of AO's affair is less noteworthy,
    it could yet provide more leverage than the previously mentioned one had.

    Key word is could. This one might end up a dud as well. Or AO could get b&,
    Chanology prosecuted under RICO statutes and CoS wins everything.
    But a small nudge in the right direction, today, could still add momentum.
  18. Anonymous Member

    Re: AO & Graham Berry surveys Gold Base

    If the judge awards punitive damages against the Cult for AO's assault, it could easily run into millions of bucks (I think this is the real reason motivating AO, and not necessarily the Cult)

    And remember, this is not an unlikely award - a woman spilled hot coffee and was awarded $70 million against McD's, so Orange at least getting a couple of million is probably erring on the low side.

    Not a bad result for a few scratches and some jail time is it? (shame I didn't think of it first, lol)
  19. Anonymous Member

    Re: AO & Graham Berry surveys Gold Base

    /r/ AO and AnonOrange/Anon Orange wordfilter to "Fat Nigger"
  20. Anonymous Member

    Re: AO & Graham Berry surveys Gold Base

    Fix'd.
  21. Anonymous Member

    Re: AO & Graham Berry surveys Gold Base

    AO put himself in the firing line, and has earned the money he'll make.

    Good luck to him!
  22. Anonymous Member

    Re: AO & Graham Berry surveys Gold Base

    I think AO has made a lot of mistakes in the past and has let his personality wind up a lot of people. I wouldn't say I'm a fan of his, but he has been working hard and has made a hell of a lot of progress, and has been slowly learning from his mistakes. The fact remains that he is currently in a very powerful position to punch the cult hard, and in the process, may be able to cause the cult a lot of bad PR.

    So please fucking stop with the repetitive AO hating. Its becoming stale and boring. Yes AO is an attention whore and has an ego and a personality that can drive people insane faster than Hubbard, but for fuck sake, give him a break.
  23. LocalSP Member

    Re: AO & Graham Berry surveys Gold Base

    So anyway, was he on their property or was he off their property?
  24. Anonymous Member

    Re: AO & Graham Berry surveys Gold Base

    His assault took place on public property, so the Cult are screwed.

    Better still, he is apparently going after them for damages for assault, wrongful arrest and unlawful imprisonment.

    Slappy is going to be considerably poorer after the judgment, and it is likely that an offer will be made to AO to drop the case pre-trial.
  25. LocalSP Member

    Re: AO & Graham Berry surveys Gold Base

    I haven't seen any dox that show he was on public land yet.
  26. Anonymous Member

    Re: AO & Graham Berry surveys Gold Base

    And why should you have?

    They have been drafted and GB will be including them in the evidence bundle at disclosure. Based on the locus photos and survey, it is an irrefutable fact that even the Cult cannot successfully argue against.
  27. TomVorm Member

    Re: AO & Graham Berry surveys Gold Base

    Unless there is an attempt at a pre-trial settlement with AO, actual damage collection from Gold Base (or an affiliated corporation) might take many years if it happens at all.

    This caution is based on the results of the Larry Wollersheim lawsuits, which were initiated in 1980, received an award in 1986, but saw actual monetary delivery in 2002.

    However, it could be speculated that the more public discussions of potentially-expensive PR-footbullets (like continuing public dialogue of controversies over Ordinance 884, and the road encroachment and road closure issues) there are, the more they may serve to motivate Gold Base to consider a settlement as a more cost-effective direction (compared to continued harassment and potentially costly litigation).

    (This assumes Miscavige is operating on a rational level. I see little evidence that that is now the case)
  28. Anon-007 Member

    Re: AO & Graham Berry surveys Gold Base

    As an aside, I seem to recall that AO is a Canadian (or maybe lived in Canada?) and his name seems to fit this.

    If he is Canadian, would he actually be entitled to claim damages against the Cult as a foreign national?
  29. LocalSP Member

    Re: AO & Graham Berry surveys Gold Base

    Seems to me that it wouldn't make any difference if he were to tell us now. If he was on public land he was on public land. The CoS is going to find out anyway and there would not be a damn thing they could do about it. In fact releasing the results now might even help AO get his settlement.
  30. Anonymous Member

    Re: AO & Graham Berry surveys Gold Base

    Haven't you learned that AO is a big pr*ck tease?
  31. themadhair Member

    Re: AO & Graham Berry surveys Gold Base

    If only there was a website that actually had he facts on this case.

    Oh wait, there is: Stella Awards -- The "Real" Stella
  32. Zak McKracken Member

    Re: AO & Graham Berry surveys Gold Base

    Hm, not sure.

    Anything GB/AO reveal about their strategy, either now or at the time of the trial- will be savagely attacked and torn apart by any CoS law-entities on the case.

    As it is, they probably have contingency plans to cover most of the issues that GB will raise; some of these might not be very solid. The more info they can get, sooner- the better they will be able to prepare and focus down on discrediting any presented evidence.

    Would the data generated by survey- be regarded "100% fact" by the court?
    Or is there room for error? If a CoS-sponsored survey showed different results?

    If the survey result is clearly in AO's favor- he has an extremely strong case. Nonetheless, CoS will attack it if they can. If there's any ambiguity- it would be in his best interest to wait, and make arguments in court. If there's NO ambiguity, it might still be better to keep them guessing.

    I'm not sure how much (if any) involvement CoS has, in the handling from here on in. I can imagine the less data they have to work with, the less they will be able to effectively influence a public prosecutor.
  33. TomVorm Member

    Re: AO & Graham Berry surveys Gold Base

    I'm not aware of the court strategy on this case, but readers here can learn of some facts that are relevant.

    The property line location could be very material, to the original claim of "trespassing".

    Another aspect, even if there was trespassing, could be the insufficient signage of the property line at Gold Base.

    Another aspect, could be the encroachment upon the public's right-of-way (a demonstration perhaps, of neglect of applicable land laws in general by Gold Base).

    Another aspect, was the possibility that AO was "enticed" onto the property (on October 26, 2008), by the road flare and apparent tampering behind his vehicle by the Gold Base guards (conveniently caught on video)!

    Another aspect, was a prior (October 12, 2008) attack on AO, which was reported to have occurred outside Big Blue

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nB4...ope.com/news_2008.htm&feature=player_embedded


    Another aspect, was the actions of the guards (were they inappropriate, or even excessive relative to the "offense" they believed was committed)?

    Wider questions:

    Was this part of a conspiracy, designed to deprive protestors of their legal rights?

    And if so, was it ordered by higher management at Gold Base?

    Was there collusion by public entities (a deputy who refused to take a report, and County attorneys who admitted they had lost key evidence)?

    What about the sound of a gunshot that was heard on the audio track? How should that be interpreted?

    Will the sound of the creepy "gold tone" on the audio be something that Gold Base's attorneys want heard by a civil jury (which could award punitive damages)?
  34. Anon-007 Member

    Re: AO & Graham Berry surveys Gold Base

    If AO wins a couple of million in damages, that's a couple of million taken away from the Cult and David "Dwarfy" Miscavige - which is a good thing.
  35. Anonymous Member

    Re: AO & Graham Berry surveys Gold Base

    As silly as it seems, it is illegal to beat the crap out of somebody even if they're Canadian trespassers. AO was only Canadian.
    So yeah, even if they are foreigners you can't beat 'em up.

    On a side note, who is that avatar woman of yours?
  36. Anonymous Member

    Re: AO & Graham Berry surveys Gold Base

    if only AO was a minority or gay we could of gotten more press
  37. LocalSP Member

    Re: AO & Graham Berry surveys Gold Base

    Can we exploit his French-Canadian heritage?
  38. Anon-007 Member

    Re: AO & Graham Berry surveys Gold Base

    That's reassuring to know :)

    And the av is digital art of Holly Marie Combs (I think she's in Charmed) although it looks like the artist has used a little artistic license, lol.

    Here's a larger wallpaper for you:

    http://www.wallpaperbase.com/wallpapers/celebs/hollymariecombs/holly_marie_combs_7.jpg
  39. Anonymous Member

    Re: AO & Graham Berry surveys Gold Base

    Foreigners are real people too.
  40. Anonymous Member

    Re: AO & Graham Berry surveys Gold Base

    Even Canucks?

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