Discussion in 'Narconon' started by Anonymous, Oct 20, 2011.
We need to start working on CARF. Ideas?
Keep in mind that CARF (even with a CoS mole) only accredited the first quarter of Nacronon Arrowhead's program. The state either caved in or fell down on the job.
Agreed. And keep in mind CARF didn't just magically appear as a substance abuse rehab accreditation agency. Until SAMSHA dumped that on them, they were only doing accreditations for physical & occupational rehab facilities. Maybe they should go back to their roots.
I have went to wooten for a good year or so and he was very professional but I always knew something was a little off about him. I am a addict. I was addicted to lortabs and I heard about the suboxone program and it was like a miracle. I was so sick and tired of being sick and tired! It is now 3 or 4 years later and I am still on them. There are pros and cons to the drug. The pros are that I didnt have any withrawls coming off the drugs but the cons are that I am now ADDICTED to the suboxones. There are withrawls to coming off of suboxones u have to have them all day everyday! This drug should only be used the first week or so for withdrawls and then quit and u will be good. And also this drug does not get u high after the first use or so. And to the man that said that the doctor shouldnt give a whole script to ppl well if they dont use them as prescribed then they will not get n e more. If they were monitored more then that will mean that ppl will have to pay more doctor visits and we already pay too much every month as it is. I paid close to 400 dollars for the first visit plus the meds. and the meds were close to 500 for 120.
Addiction is a hard thing to live with and no one really chooses to be an addict it happens. Its like your in PRISON inside your own body!!!
DOES ANYBODY KNOW THE FULL STORY ON DR. WOOTEN??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????PLEASE REPLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Possibly you could see about getting off of the Suboxone via Clonidine as long as you do not suffer from low blood pressure. If you felt a physiological need you could also have an anti-anxiety drug co-administered with the Clonidine, although Clonidine does have a calming effect on patients taking it.
You should not experience any withdrawal symptoms during the clonidine treatment for the approximate 30 day maximum. Before you start treatment you need to get into counseling if you already are not in a program.
You need some type of sponsor as well, 3-4yrs on Suboxone is long enough you need to get this part of your life straightened out and move on, you can do it.
Just a suggestion above, but it will work I've seen it work numerous times in the past for other patients.
Looking at Wooten's medical training/history I would not go to him for anything other than a cold, fyi.
Even if you don't suffer from low blood pressure, be careful with Clonidine, especially if
combined with any anti-anxiety drugs, such Benzos. Clonidine does work very well for
some people. My blood pressure and pulse dropped so low that my heart stopped twice,
but I was in hospital and no proplem "paddling" me back to the living. But ONLY
because I took too much clonidine on my own, mixed with high doeses of Benzos.
Lots of info on the forum. You could try the search function. Or you could be a little more specfic as to what it is you are looking for?
No disrespect however Clonidine can safely be taken with benzodiazepines when properly administered by a medical professional.
You stated yourself you were self-medicating I was speaking of a qualified drug treatment facility monitoring it's patients.
Clonidine is a very effective drug for opiate withdrawals with a 2-4 week treatment regimen. Benzodiazepines can be co-administered during the acute phase of withdrawals normally no more than a 7 day period is required along with psychological counseling.
I agree 100% - - Clonidine is very often used in opiate withdrawal in Detox centers and is SAFE when administered and monitored by medical professionals.
My post was referring to outside of this ^^^. Where did I state I was "Self-Medicating? I was,
as many people are, prescribed Cloindine by a physician. My point is, if one is prescribed Clonidine
and Benzos outside of being in a Detox/Withdrawal Unit, one must be careful. It is common
to forget how much/when you took last dose etc. When one is detoxing at home (OUCH),
perhaps best to have a family member control/administer accordingly
^ My sincere apologies if I misunderstood your post it's just that the above mentioned medication is underutilized in the industry.
It does bother me how some facilities over-prescribe suboxone and even methadone then have the patients on the drug for years while there are more effective treatment protocols.
From experience with addicts depending on various intake factors Clonidine removes
most withdrawal symptoms while it does quite often cause the patient to be a little lethargic it's better than being an addict. Couple that with a benzo for the first week along with group and one on one counseling during the residential treatment along with follow up counseling you have a good chance at modifying their behavior.
I only wish those attempting to get their loved ones off of drugs would educate themselves better.
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