AnonMomAnon2 Arrested at July 6th Clearwater Raid

sorry I made a typo in the pics post above
the pics above caption reads Antonio Avila not Alvia. I screwed uo the "v" and the "l"

AVILA HERALDO ANTONIO
so is this the same guy? WTF? is his REAL name?

moar
We have Antonio Avila, the ever steadfast Waterson wonderboy, on duty on the white lines all day....every day, come rain or come shine. When we arrive at the LMT, he's the one who films us...he's the same one who follows us through the streets of Clearwater with clam-cam in hand shooting endless footage of the same people doing the same thing over and over and over again.
http://www.holysmoke.org/cos/flag-dwindling.htm

injuction case?
Antonio Avila:
from the hearing:

13. Q - Please speak up. Would you tell us your name, 14 sir?
15. A- Antonio Avila
18. Q- And your occupation?
19. A- I'm a security guard.

http://www.holysmoke.org/cos/injunction-hearing-nov1.htm

On the right:


Holy shit, it's Barney the concierge from like a billion years ago. WHY SO AGE POORLY BARNEY.

From that same site:

http://home.snafu.de/tilman/clearwater2000/security1-8A.jpg
"Doc Flag". Still love his eyebrows. I'd quit protesting if he wiggled his eyebrows at me the right way, I swear.
http://home.snafu.de/tilman/clearwater2000/security1-12A.jpg
JESUS CHRIST PK USED TO HAVE HAIR?
http://home.snafu.de/tilman/clearwater2000/security3-35A.jpg
This man has no teeth. Like, at all. Just for the record. Camera guy #2 in Xander's vids.

Six took a trip down "what they used to look like and where are they now" lane lol!
so it looks like they are MUCH older looking with missing hair and teeth and they are still there lol!

Let me see if I can find a photo of Barney these days. It's + the weight of a small child and - a third of his hair.

...and there we go.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/anon612/3913000555/in/pool-733619@N21
http://www.flickr.com/photos/anon612/3913760858/in/pool-733619@N21

Related: We may have had a Lindsay Colton sighting the day of AMA's arrest. Not sure (aged really, really badly), we'll have to compare photos.

EDIT: And actually, guy with missing teeth looks exactly the same as he does in that photo. It's hard to age even more poorly when you already look like that.

I do not know this person but it appears his full formal name uses a Latino construction.
Given name + Surname + Mother's maiden name (Antonio + Avila + Heraldo)

It appears that for court purposes he provided his "last name" as "Avila Heraldo" (surname + mother's maiden name) and his "first name" as Antonio. The court prints the name as last then first, thus becoming Avila Heraldo Antonio. For less formal situations he would drop his mother's maiden name and say he was Antonio Avila (Given + Surname) as he did in the questioning quoted above. Avila is a common Latino surname.

Is there a civil tort beyond just the restraining order? The court has it listed as Section 023, Case type REP VIOL, Type FD.

I presume this civil case is in addition to the criminal arrest on a felony battery charge.

A hearing was set for August 4, 2011. Is that hearing for specifically the temporary injunction or for a broader concern?

http://www.myvalleynews.com/story/57529/

CHP Officer Darren Meyer said:

I don't get it? ^^^^
so they have the same last name? VERY common name.

Albeit a teeny bit less common today, than yesterday.

Dennis Clark can beat on people with impunity, why not AMA?

I reckon if this had gone anywhere we would've heard about it.

http://www.raids.org/gen00457.htm

the Gold security guards were never charged for that brutal arrest (even tho there was a settlement long after)
nor the guard who shot epic swords guy
and what about "kicky mckister" in DC?
and more.
hmm seems to be a trend here. lol
well it's not really funny

I gotta say, Antonio's coming across as kind of a wuss.

He must be so humiliated.

He should have taken his ass kicking with a grain assault...

no, not if it's for the greater good.
you know upstat and all that

but I think he should change his name to fit the BAW to Antwatio Avulva instead of Antonio Avila?
see what I did thar?

They're not scared of girlz...that is why they target wimminz rather than big anon male types. The absurdity of this particular event is jaw-dropping. At least Danny had a bruise to display. Poor Antwatio better stay away from John Carmichael. He can thmell things...

First, middle, last name: Heraldo Antonio Avila (per the court record). He goes by Antonio. DOB 12/27/78. He has an older brother named Marco who's also in security.

First off, help needed: http://forums.whyweprotest.net/threads/clearwater-scilon-ids-requested-photos-itt.91341/
I'm looking at you, Smurf. :|

Never let it be said I don't bring you guys anything nice.

I can't confirm whether it's the same guy as in your photos as I've honestly never seen under the sunglasses. But this is the guy that made the claim or at least the one that filled out the report, so I assume so.

FIFY

Even if they were familier, can they ignore a complaint of this type without atleast some investigation?

Back to the legal issues of AnonMom2
These are snips from her ExScientology Kids story.

Are you kidding me? They call us "wogs"?

Hubbard also called us "Garden-variety humanoids". (It's right in the Tech dictionary.)

784.03 Battery; felony battery.—

(1)(a) The offense of battery occurs when a person:
1. Actually and intentionally touches or strikes another person against the will of the other; or
2. Intentionally causes bodily harm to another person.
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes...ing=&URL=0700-0799/0784/Sections/0784.03.html

If you want to contribute, please do. If you don't kindly move along.

Reluctantly, I'm splitting this thread. Discussion of AMA's current situation, strategizing, and updates should go here. Discussion of the discussion itself, discussions about individual users, slapfights, and discussion about wwp in general should go in the other thread.

I am not doming either thread. There have been useful points made from various points of view. In no way is moving the derail meant to discredit "dissenters." I hope people will continue the discussion of blindly taking sides, vs. weighing evidence, in the other thread. This discussion has needed to happen for a long time.

The other thread has some very useful discussion, mixed in with a lot of crap. If one of the other mods wants to separate it out or to take another approach, more power to you.

I hope this will allow the original discussion to proceed without too much difficulty. Please report any trolling and if it's not constructive mods will remove it. (Constructive meaning, contributing to the discussion in a thoughtful way--we will never all agree.)

Is there a date known that AnonMomAnon2 can speak about the case? I might have missed it, but wondering.

Thank you for recognizing that.

Not a date, but an (uncertain) event...when her lawyer says it's ok, which is presumably when all legal issues (both criminal and civil) have run their course.

So like in 12 years or so? Thanks for clearing that up.

It depends on factors no one can control, such as when all of the lawyers have prepared what they need to prepare, when the dates are set, and what the lawyer advises AMA2. And yes, I realize you realize this.

This is what amuses me most.

Thread always gets edgy when people have to wait.
I know that it must be hard for her to not be able to speak, but that's one of the downsides for know-it-alls like us. What to do while we wait.

Okay. From AMA2 (and her lawyer), the first dox, with love:

Thanks!

Best of luck, AMA2! With Luke representing you, you might not need it

Call your proctologist, Moxon.

Nice to get some news. Do our legal people see anything of note in this document?

Awesome. Demands a jury trial. Luke is going to run Antonio's ass through the meat grinder... he's not going to be able to hold Sarah Heller's hand for comfort. I hope Luke depos him and fries his ass.