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Alex Gibney: Going Clear

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  1. Incredulicide Member

    Review: Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief (six page PDF) by William L. Blizek, 03-09-2015 in the Journal of Religion & Film, Volume 19 Issue 1, Article 33, University of Nebraska at Omaha

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    Former members complain about being harassed by members of the organization.
    The movie actually shows a scene in which several members of the organization confront a former member with cameras attached to their heads and wearing shirts with the word "squirrel" on them – someone who leaves the organization is known as a squirrel. Although the member who speaks says that he only wants to talk, it seemed to be portrayed more as a case of harassment.
    There are other complaints from ex-members that range from being asked for more and more money, to being treated as slave labor, and even being beaten. Spokespersons for the organization deny all of these complaints. As a movie, it seemed to portray Scientology relatively even-handedly.
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    I'm repeating this post from April 3, 2015 for any who may have missed it. And even if you have already read this interview with Gibney, it's worth reading again.

    Alex Gibney on Scientology’s culture of “vitriol and hate”: “If you do leave, they go after you hard”

    The Oscar-winning director on Scientology’s vicious counterattack – and his new movies on Sinatra and Steve Jobs

    By Andrew O'Hehir, Salon

    Excerpt:

    What has surprised you about the reaction to the film? First of all, the Church of Scientology has officially released various official statements and websites and videos attacking “Going Clear,” so let’s start there. Is there anything that surprises you about their counterattack?

    Not really. It’s kind of textbook. What’s textbook about it is it’s full of so much vitriol and hate, which is, if you think about it, kind of unusual for a church. Sure, what’s his name from the Catholic League, Bill Donohue, will do stuff like that. But this is like textbook, fair game. Straight out of the Hubbard manual. Hollywood Reporter sent them 25 questions and said, “Please respond to these allegations specifically.” And their response was to ignore all of them and just to say, “Alex Gibney is a liar and a bigot and everybody who’s involved in the project are bigots and liars and cheaters.” That kind of thing. So it’s not surprising, but it is amazing to see that kind of hostility expressed. And that’s how they do it.

    They have not attempted to offer any specific rebuttals of any kind? Because I certainly haven’t seen that.

    No, they just say, “Everything’s false, there are no misdeeds, but everybody involved is a bigoted asshole.”

    It’s an extraordinary level of avoiding the issue, isn’t it? They avoid the questions more completely than the Soviet Union ever did, than the Catholic Church ever did.

    Absolutely, they make all those institutions look good. If you dig down deep, it is a little like the Soviet Union or some Orwellian organization. For example, they will say, “Marty Rathbun is an admitted liar.” And it’s true. Marty [a former Scientology spokesperson] admits that he lied — on behalf of the church! Then they went after Spanky Taylor [John Travolta’s former personal assistant and church liaison] and said, “After she left the church she got involved in a horrible organization that was predatory and was so bad that it was sued out of existence.” They don’t say that the Church of Scientology sued it out of existence. It was called the Cult Awareness Network and it was designed to help people. Then it went bankrupt and Scientology bought its name. So if you wanted to go get help from the Cult Awareness Network, you were actually walking right into the Church of Scientology. Amazing.

    Now people like Bodhi Elfman and Danny Masterson [both current Scientologists] are coming out and making these comparisons: “How would it be if there was a documentary done on Jews in which you only interviewed Nazis?” So that gives you some sense of a skewed perspective. But to give the devil his due, they used to post these anonymous sites and smear people. Now they’re coming right out front: These are official Church of Scientology sites, putting bull’s-eyes on people’s faces.

    On yours?

    No, but this woman Sara Goldberg has a bull’s-eye on her face. They’ve done a video on me — they went after my dad, who’s dead. They’re saying he had some involvement with the CIA back in the day, which is probably true. But so what?

    Here’s what we won’t know for a while: How wounded is the church, both internally and in the world, by this extremely bad moment of publicity? I mean, this has to be the worst moment of publicity that they’ve ever had.

    I think that’s true. There were an incredible number of people who watched the broadcast on Sunday night, and we’ll have to see what comes of that. Now people are circulating petitions asking for the church’s IRS exemption to be withdrawn.

    Hasn’t Sen. Ron Wyden has been looking into that?

    Theoretically. He sent a query over to the IRS, which could either mean he’s serious about it or it could mean that he wanted to get some constituent off his back. But he is one of the people on the Senate subcommittee that would be in charge. There’s plenty of precedent for denying that, even for big organizations. The Supreme Court took a case involving Bob Jones University, about 10 years before Scientology got its exemption.

    If you think about it as a church that practices disconnection, a really vicious form of cruelty toward families, a church that hires tons of private investigators to harass people. Because their M.O. is not beating people up, they don’t do that. They try to torment you psychologically, which is perfect for this organization that despises psychology but is all about mental mind games. Some of our people [i.e., who spoke out in “Going Clear”] have been threatened physically. Some of them have been threatened with having their homes taken away. Then there’s all this physical abuse that’s gone on. It’s hard to understand why that is a tax-deductible activity, why that should be supported.

    They’ve been effective for a long time at getting people to back off, because they’re so dogged and so litigious and so tough. Like I said, we went to networks to get footage and couldn’t license it. We “Fair Used” it anyway, but it wasn’t worth their trouble, I’m assuming. They wouldn’t tell me.

    http://www.salon.com/2015/04/03/alex_gibney_on_scientology’s_culture_of_vitriol_and_hate_if_you_do_leave_they_go_after_you_hard/
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    The 'Going Clear' director says he might make a follow-up to the revealing Scientology documentary

    By Jethro Nededog, Business Insider, January 11, 2016

    Alex Gibney may have a follow-up to his popular and controversial documentary about Scientology, "Going Clear."

    "I'm thinking about it," Gibney told Business Insider at Monday's Television Critics Association press tour in Los Angeles when we asked if he was planning another documentary on the secretive organization.

    While he didn't go into details, he did explain how hard it is to leave his documentary subjects in the past.

    "A lot of my films keep developing," Gibney said after sitting on Amazon's TCA panel for its upcoming docu-series, "The New Yorker Presents," which he executive produces.

    "And one of the interesting things about being lucky enough to do what I do is that the characters and stories tend to follow you around, and pop up in unusual ways," he continued. "And sometimes, like in the ‘Ghostbusters’ movie, the streams cross."

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    http://www.businessinsider.com/going-clear-director-on-sequel-2016-1
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    'Game of Thrones,' 'Modern Family,' 'Going Clear' get Directors Guild nods

    The Directors Guild of America announced its remaining nominees for Outstanding Directional Achievement awards in television, commercials and documentaries Wednesday.

    Among the nominees are Game of Thrones director David Nutter for the episode "Mother's Mercy," Modern Family director Gail Mancuso for "White Christmas," and director Alex Gibney for the HBO documentary Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief.

    http://www.upi.com/Entertainment_Ne...Clear-get-Directors-Guild-nods/6321452710643/
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    Oscar snubs Alex Gibney’s Scientology documentary ‘Going Clear’ despite buzz | The Underground Bunker

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    A day after Alex Gibney learned that he’d been nominated for an award by the Director’s Guild of America for his documentary Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief, his movie was left out of the nominations for Documentary Feature which were announced this morning for the 88th Academy Awards, to be presented in Los Angeles on February 28.

    Besides the DGA nomination, Going Clear had been racking up an impressive list of other awards and nominations, and it had been HBO’s most-watched documentary in a decade. It had also enjoyed two separate theatrical runs, making it eligible for an Oscar nomination. But ultimately it was left out of the nominees, depriving Gibney of a chance for a second statuette. Previously, he had won for his 2007 film, Taxi to the Dark Side. He was also nominated for 2005’s Enron: The Smartest Guys in the Room.

    This year’s nominees for Documentary Feature are: What Happened to Miss Simone?, directed by Liz Garbus; Cartel Land, Matthew Heineman; Amy, Asif Kapadia; The Look of Silence, Joshua Oppenheimer; and Winter on Fire: Ukraine’s Fight for Freedom, Evgeny Afineevsky.

    In a recent interview, Gibney talked about the possibility of a sequel to Going Clear. We hope this disappointment doesn’t deter him.

    Source and comments:
    http://tonyortega.org/2016/01/14/os...ntology-documentary-going-clear-despite-buzz/

    Oscar Nominations: Scientology Doc 'Going Clear' Shut Out | The Hollywood Reporter

    Last paragraph:

    Going Clear and the Prison of Belief isn't the only high-profile documentary to get the cold shoulder from Oscar voters. Michael Moore's Where to Invade Next, which also had been shortlisted by the Academy, failed to score a nomination.

    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/oscar-nominations-scientology-doc-going-855769
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  7. Quentinanon Member

    Were Oscar nomination judges coerced by the scientology crime syndicate?
  8. The CoS is going to claim it was down to them but it probably wasn't. Lots of people / films that were expected to get nominations did not so it doesn't really require a nefarious explanation.
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    Here's the video - it's an hour-long, and I haven't watched it yet. Gibney is one of 6 documentarians in a roundtable discussion about making docus.

    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/watch-thrs-full-uncensored-documentary-852534
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  11. Alex Gibney Talks Cyber-Espionage of 'Zero Days' and "Thuggish Intimidation" After Scientology Doc (Q&A)

    The Hollywood Reporter: Alex Gibney Talks Cyber-Espionage of 'Zero Days' and "Thuggish Intimidation" After Scientology Doc (Q&A)

    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/alex-gibney-talks-cyber-espionage-864979?utm_source=twitter

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    Were you surprised that Going Clear wasn’t nominated for an Oscar after the Church of Scientology actively campaigned against it?

    I don't want to comment on the record about that. There definitely was a campaign against [the film], but I have no evidence that was responsible for influencing Academy voters. They didn’t vote for it and that’s that ... I’ve been inundated with litigious letters [from the Church of Scientology] threatening lawsuits as has every venue where we exhibited this film, in this country and abroad. They haven’t sued, but they threatened a lot.

    There’s been a high cost to releasing the film. I get accosted from time to time — you can see a few exchanges on YouTube — but the people who really took it on the chin are the people who spoke to me for the movie. They’ve been shadowed by private investigators and in ways that are intended to intimidate — woman have been threatened, people have had their lives destroyed economically, their houses taken away. It’s been thuggish intimidation. The church has lived up to its reputation.

    Has there been any professional repercussions for you, working in Hollywood?

    Not really. I can’t say there’s been any impact there. But in terms of the Hollywood element, I found it somewhat disturbing that Tom Cruise continues to manage to elude any responsibility for the ongoing human-rights abuses that are basically conducted in his name. He is the most visible and most vocal proponent of the religion. This isn’t about the creed of the church, it’s about the deed. By not investigating human-rights abuses in the church, he’s tacitly giving his approval to them.

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    Silvertail to publish Wright's Scientology exposé | The Bookseller

    Independent publisher Silvertail Books is set to publish an investigation into Scientology by Pulitzer prize-winning author Lawrence Wright, three years after it was pulled in the UK by Transworld.

    Publisher Humfrey Hunter bought UK and Commonwealth rights including Australia to Going Clear, from James Pullen at Andrew Wylie.

    The book will uncover the “inner workings” of the Scientology church after Wright used archival research and more than two hundred personal interviews with current and former Scientologists to write the expose.

    Transworld was set to publish the title but pulled it in January 2013, with the publisher saying at the time: “We've decided it doesn't fit in with our schedule but it will be published by Knopf in the States."

    The title will now be published by Silvertail on 17th March in all formats through Amazon, Silvertail's website and is available to high street booksellers via Neilsen.

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    Silervertail also brought Bare-faced Messiah, a book about Scientology’s founder L Ron Hubbard, back into publication in February 2014.

    http://www.thebookseller.com/news/silvertail-publish-wrights-scientology-expos-323804
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    Alex Gibney Is Making a New Movie — and It’s Not a Documentary | Flavorwire

    The Action is the title given to Gibney’s first narrative film and, judging by the plot details that have been released so far, “action” is definitely something viewers can expect to find in abundance. Set in the 1970s, the film will follow eight anti-war activists on their journey toward exposing J. Edgar Hoover — the infamous FBI director who used unethical surveillance techniques to aide his staunch anti-Communist crusade. The political thriller is “inspired by true events,” presumably based loosely off of the activists that actually did unveil confidential surveillance information.

    http://flavorwire.com/569100/alex-gibney-is-making-a-new-movie-and-its-not-a-documentary

    Alex Gibney to make feature film debut with FBI burglary story | The Guardian

    http://www.theguardian.com/film/201...-film-debut-j-edgar-hoover-fbi-burglary-story

    Alex Gibney to Direct Vietnam War Political Thriller ‘The Action’ | Variety

    https://variety.com/2016/film/news/alex-gibney-political-thriller-action-1201743064/
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    Selected as a Peabody Award Finalist -


    Peabody Awards to Honor David Letterman, 'The Daily Show with Jon Stewart,' Name Finalists

    9:18 AM PDT 4/12/2016 by Hilary Lewis


    Source - http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/peabody-awards-2016-finalists-882973
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  16. Real Screen: Peabody Awards reveal honorees, finalists

    http://realscreen.com/2016/04/12/peabody-awards-reveal-honorees-finalists/

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    Among the documentary and non-fiction finalists are HBO’s The Jinx: The Life and Deaths of Robert Durst (Hit the Ground Running); HBO’s Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief (Jigsaw Productions, HBO Documentary Films, Sky Atlantic); Pivot’s Gardeners of Eden (Ganesh Forever); PBS’ American Experience: Walt Disney (Sarah Colt Productions, ARTE); CNN’s Glen Campbell…I’ll Be Me (PCH Films); PBS’ Growing Up Trans (‘Frontline’); and Showtime’s Listen to Me Marlon (Showtime Documentary Films, Passions Pictures, Cutler Productions).

    The 75th Anniversary Peabody Awards gala will broadcast across Pivot on June 6 at 8 p.m. EST/PST.

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    Scientology doc ‘Going Clear’ wins Peabody | Austin Movie Blog

    The HBO documentary “Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief,” written by Austin’s Lawrence Wright and directed by Alex Gibney, has won a prestigious Peabody Award.

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    In awarding “Going Clear” a Peabody, the judges said that the film “about the history and hardball tactics of the Church of Scientology draws its persuasive power from letters and documents contradicting the fabrications of its late founder, L. Ron Hubbard, and from blistering testimonials by prominent ex-church officials and former members about abuse and corruption.”

    The documentary is based on the 2013 book by Wright, “Going Clear: Scientology, Hollywood & the Prison of Belief.”

    http://movies.blog.austin360.com/2016/04/26/going-clear-wins-peabody/

    Peabody announces documentary, education winners

    The Peabody Awards Board of Jurors today announced the documentary and education programs among this year's winners. The nine honorees are the final winners named as part of The Peabody 30, and include documentaries about the Islamic State, the Church of Scientology and singer Nina Simone. The Peabody Awards are based at the University of Georgia's Grady College of Journalism and Mass Communication.

    Ten news, radio, podcast and Web winners were announced on April 19. The Entertainment and Children's winners, a total of 11 programs, were revealed on NBC's "Today" show on April 22. A full list of winners is available at peabodyawards.com.

    The documentary and education winners of The Peabody 30 are as follows:

    "Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief" (HBO)

    Jigsaw Productions, HBO Documentary Films and Sky Atlantic

    More than an exposé, more like a demolition, Alex Gibney's film about the history and hardball tactics of the Church of Scientology draws its persuasive power from letters and documents contradicting the fabrications of its late founder, L. Ron Hubbard, and from blistering testimonials by prominent ex-church officials and former members about abuse and corruption.

    http://news.uga.edu/releases/article/peabody-documentary-education-winners-16/
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    10th Dallas Book Festival offers a daylong sense of surprise | Dallas Morning News

    It was hardly surprising that Pulitzer Prize-winning author Lawrence Wright drew a capacity crowd to his appearance at Saturday’s 10th annual Dallas Book Festival, nor was it surprising that so many of the stories he shared provoked the reactions they did. They ranged from surprise to astonishment to alarm to shock.

    Wright, a 1965 graduate of Woodrow Wilson High School, regaled the crowd with stories about his most famous books, The Looming Tower: Al-Qaeda and the Road to 9/11 (which won the Pulitzer in 2007) and Going Clear: Scientology, Hollywood & the Prison of Belief.

    Wright joked that his wife was mistaken in fearing that Scientologists would pose a greater threat than al-Qaeda. “Al-Qaeda will cut off your head,” he told her. “Scientologists will just take your house.”

    http://www.dallasnews.com/lifestyle...stival-offers-a-daylong-sense-of-surprise.ece
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    Miscavige forced homo novis Isaac Hayes' Chef to leave Southpark after it mocked the cult.
    I wonder what Miscavige will make homo novis Laura Prepon do.
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    HA! interesting.
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    Nancy Cartwright’s ‘defense’ of Scientology is the saddest thing ever | The Underground Bunker

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    You may have seen the short clip put out yesterday by the Associated Press which features voice actress Nancy Cartwright — who plays Bart on The Simpsons — talking about her unhappiness with Lawrence Wright’s 2013 book Going Clear and the 2015 documentary that filmmaker Alex Gibney made from it.

    We looked around, but we couldn’t find any evidence of whether this was just an advance look at a larger piece by the AP about her, or about Scientology. It’s just a short thing, and it’s not clear why Cartwright is being asked now about a film that’s been out for more than a year and that garnered three Emmy awards, including the year’s best television feature documentary.

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    http://tonyortega.org/2016/08/04/nancy-cartwrights-defense-of-scientology-is-the-saddest-thing-ever/
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    Nancy Cartwright: Just Another Scientology Celebrity Pawn | The Scientology Money Project

    By Jeffrey Augustine, August 4, 2016

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    Nancy Cartwright just did a video in which she attacked Going Clear. After watching the video, I’ve concluded that Cartwright is just another Scientology celebrity pawn who has been played to do the bidding of the Office of Special Affairs.

    OSA may not have given Nancy the news: Going Clear earned seven Emmy nominations and won three Emmy’s. Going Clear also earned an Oscar nomination for Best Documentary. Alex Gibney won an Oscar for Best Documentary Feature for his 2007 work Taxi to the Dark Side.

    In Nancy’s video she uses the same tired old PR line and tells people to find out for themselves what Scientology is by reading a book. Okay. I have met this requirement and more. I have found out for myself what Scientology really is and does and I think it is a malicious and dishonest criminal Cult. And I am hardly alone in my informed opinion.

    Over the years I have read Dianetics, the Basics, and listened to the Congresses. I have also read and studied Scientology’s legal cases, IRS records, and interviewed many former top Scientology executives. I found $1.5 billion in Scientology assets listed in IRS 990-T forms filed by Scientology churches. More than ten million dollars of this money was presumably donated by Nancy Cartwright, and yet, the PR of the Church of Scientology continues to get worse. This is, apparently, why OSA needs Nancy’s face and name in another one of its failed attempts to dead agent Going Clear. Nancy Cartwright, however, is just not an OSA attack dog. She looked unnatural, forced, and uncomfortable in this attack video. If OSA needed an attack dog it should have called Kirstie Alley.

    My wife Karen de la Carriere was a Class XII C/S who served onboard the Flagship Apollo and was personally trained by L. Ron Hubbard. LRH only trained seven Class XII’s and Karen was one of them. Karen knows more about Scientology than Nancy Cartwright does or ever will. My wife especially knows the sadistic side of Scientology Disconnection. When Karen’s son Alexander Jentzsch died at age 27, your Church did not have the basic human decency to tell her that her son had died. We found out through the kindness of a stranger whom, we later discovered, was former Sea Org executive Aaron Smith-Levin. He had the humanity to let us know Alexander had died — and he did so at great risk to himself when he was still in the Church. When we learned that Alexander had died, Scientology would not let Karen see her dead son’s body and kiss him goodbye one last time. Is Nancy Cartwright seriously defending this depraved Scientology conduct?

    Nancy Cartwright is telling people to read a book about Scientology when she darned well knows that none of the books will ever tell the public the real truth about Scientology? For example, none of Scientology’s books will inform the public of the four unconscionable contracts Scientology uses to legally ensnare people and strip them of their legal rights.

    Nancy Cartwright withholds from the public the worst parts of Scientology: Fair Game, Disconnection, sleep deprivation torture in the Sea Org, child labor, RPF, financial rape of parishioners, exploitation of Sea Org members by paying slave wages, and the Master Race and Genocide doctrines of Scientology. If Nancy Cartwright actually wanted people to truly learn about Scientology then she would have to give it to them straight: The good, the bad, and the ugly. She’s not doing herself or Scientology any favors by lying and withholding. She’s only making it worse by proving that Scientology has massive withholds on the public. Going Clear is not the problem here. Scientology is the problem.

    Nancy Cartwright needs to tell the whole truth. She should talk about Xenu, volcanoes, BT’s, clusters, Marcabs and everything else that the public can’t read in Scientology’s books. She should talk about all the materials in the secret course packs in AO, Flag, and the Ship. These materials constitute the real Scientology.

    What Nancy Cartwright is saying — read a book — is dishonest and misleading because the books never describe the Real Scientology. This is why people out here in the real world write blogs, books, and make movies in order to expose what Real Scientology is actually about. Nancy and her fellow Scientology celebrities can’t talk about the real Scientology. Like puppets dancing on strings, Scientology’s celebrities can only say and think what they’ve been ordered to say and think by the Office of the President, Celebrity Centre Int.

    Continued here:
    https://scientologymoneyproject.com...ight-just-another-scientology-celebrity-pawn/
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    Man’s quest for meaning winds up piled in the carport

    By Melissa Evans, Press-Telegram

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    I pull into my spot in the carport and immediately notice an unauthorized incursion to our limited storage space: three pillars of plastic things. Books? Folders? What is that?

    I pick one off the top – the stacks are taller than me – and am greeted by audiotape covers with big block letters, “L. Ron Hubbard,” printed on the front: “The Creation of Human Ability.” “Dianetics! The Complete Manual of Human Communications.” “Scientology: A History of Man.”

    I knew my husband had dabbled in Scientology, and by that I mean thousands-of-dollars spent, deep-in-the-axioms involved, and apparently the keeper of a vast Hubbard repository, most of it unopened, still in plastic covering, as if he were saving it for the resale value or for reading in his retirement years.

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    “This is a deal-breaker,” I declared one night after reading “Going Clear,” a book based on interviews with former members of the church (which has forcefully disputed facts in the book).

    We got into a heated debate (to put it nicely) about the apparent hypocrisy of my disdain.

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    ...he told me it helped him during a really confusing, difficult time in his life. I asked more questions about that, really listening this time. It turns out there’s not a whole lot to argue about when specifics of belief are left out, and “the how and why it matters” emerges.

    I came home a few days later and the stacks were gone.

    http://www.presstelegram.com/genera...est-for-meaning-winds-up-piled-in-the-carport
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  29. GibbousWaxing Member

    Nicely illustrates the greater effectiveness of asking, "Is this what you'd hoped to get from Scientology?" over directly challenging the teachings.
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    Although Going Clear isn't mentioned by name in this piece, this thread might be the right one to share it:

    Meanwhile, back in the bubble

    By Tony Ortega, September 9, 2016

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    Things out here in blogland may be a little confusing at the moment, but the same old song is apparently being sung in the far-flung “outer orgs.” It’s from a far continent that we received an interesting report this week from a tipster about the stories the Church of Scientology is telling members about its evil former members.

    We can’t confirm the details of what our tipster told us, so that’s something to keep in mind. But others we’ve talked to have said very similar things in the last few years.

    Our correspondent tells us that he keeps his public discussion of Scientology to a minimum because someone close to him is involved in the church. But then, not long ago, he mentioned on Facebook that he was watching a particular feature film that Scientology considers “entheta.”

    Someone at the local org notified his companion, who was very upset. She set up an appointment for him with the OSA representative for the area, a man we’ll call Dennis.

    “[Dennis] started probing where my ‘entheta’ came from. I didn’t speak much. So he started ‘handling’ the rumors. He told me all the things we already know from the videos at [Freedom magazine]. That Marty Rathbun was an SP who was not letting Scientology handle the IRS back in 1993. That he was the one instituting the violence throughout Scientology. That it was Rathbun who had created an ethics interrogation system by which the ethics officer would interview the staff member having two guards stand by the door, which is ‘squirrel’ [not according to policy]. The weird thing is, he blamed Mike Rinder for having created the yelling scene with BBC journalist John Sweeney, when we all know it was Tommy Davis. He said the BBC had paid $25,000 to Mike Rinder to fly to London to lie on camera and tell lies about the church. He told me how beautiful it is at Int Base. How they have their laundry done. The food. They have their own doctor and dentist, who are both Sea Org members. He said he’d trained under Mike Rinder and that he’d never met Rathbun. And then later he said that he’d trained under Marty Rathbun and never met Rinder. His story was not checking out. Then he told me more about Rathbun’s position in the church. How he’d spent time aboard the Freewinds and then went to Flag and was responsible for admitting Lisa McPherson against all church policies. Then the most outrageous claim: That Lisa McPherson was living in her own separate place and had committed suicide! Obviously, he went on to talk wonders about David Miscavige and the unprecedented expansion. I was there to help my friend stay ‘on lines’ and not to debate the guy so I kept my mouth shut. He offered all of this information without me asking a thing. It goes to show how badly informed the OSA personnel are.”

    Source, with open comments:
    http://tonyortega.org/2016/09/09/sc...icy-gets-sacrificed-on-the-burning-man-altar/
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  31. An update.

    http://tonyortega.org/2016/11/12/leah-remini-schools-us-on-what-motivates-scientologists-to-toe-the-line/#comment-2998730038

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    15 great documentaries to stream right now | Vox

    Going Clear: A searing indictment of the Church of Scientology (HBO Go)

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    Documentarian Alex Gibney takes on the Church of Scientology with this comprehensive and incriminating look at the organization, covering both its longstanding connections in Hollywood and its secretive practices and structures. Combining interviews with ex-Scientologists, archival footage, and probing reporting, Going Clear doesn't want you to be fascinated by Scientology's strangeness — it's an indictment of authoritarianism that knows no bounds.

    "If Going Clear were a Hollywood thriller, I’d complain that it’s too over-the-top. But this is real life, which is hard to believe. And it’s disturbingly good." Melissa Maerz, Entertainment Weekly

    Release date: March 20, 2015

    Streaming on: HBO Go, iTunes, Amazon, YouTube, Google Play, Vudu

    Metacritic score: 80 out of 100

    http://www.vox.com/cards/15-best-documentaries-to-stream-right-now/going-clear-scientology-hbo
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  34. The Wrong Guy Member

    Here's the first page of a slideshow that was posted today:

    Movies & TV Shows About Cults | Zimbio

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    There are cult films and then there are films about cults. We'll be discussing the latter in the slides ahead. Cults have always fascinated the popular culture. Religion is one thing, but blindly following some earthbound deity? Now, THAT'S crazy. Crazy or not, cults are very real and people keep joining them. If they interest you at all, you should see these movies, but DO NOT join one. They may seem fun at first, but there's always some hidden satanic agenda. Not cool.

    Source: http://www.zimbio.com/Movies TV Shows About Cults

    Here's the part that's relevant:

    'Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief' (2015)
    Directed by Alex Gibney

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    Again, Scientology is technically a religion, but watch this movie and tell us there's nothing cultish about it. Gibney's documentary exposes Scientology as a pressurized hierarchy where member's are summarily brainwashed and subsequently harassed if they decide to leave the church. Interviews with past members who have left the church paint a scary portrait of the secretive "religion."

    Source: http://www.zimbio.com/Movies TV Sho...S9/Going Clear Scientology Prison Belief 2015
  35. The Wrong Guy Member

    ‘Going Clear’ author Lawrence Wright celebrates a milestone with a different kind of keyboard

    Going Clear author Lawrence Wright let us know he was coming to New York with his Austin blues band, WhoDo, and would be playing Hill Country Barbecue Market in downtown Brooklyn last night. We appreciated the invite and made sure to attend — not only was it a chance to see Larry perform, but Alex Gibney was also in attendance, and there were a couple of other surprises as well.

    http://tonyortega.org/2017/08/03/go...-milestone-with-a-different-kind-of-keyboard/
  36. Going Clear finally made its way to a national broadcaster last night here in the A.U. Albeit a smaller network, but still national
    I must say, it was ugly stuff for clam central. I hadnt had the pleasure of watching "Going Clear". Going Clear touched upon almost every dirty secret scientology tries to keep buried
    Martyr has obviously done a complete 180 degree turn in relation to scientology and Heir Mcsavage. Most likely he and his spouse have sold their souls for blood money
    Problem for Martyr is, his recent activities in his 180 arent being seen by a major amount of people.
    Martyr Ratbutt can change his tune all he wants. Problem for him is, he cannot take back all he has said before his 180 degree turn in numerous expose's of scientology in recent years. In fact, Martyr will actually seed peoples minds that he sold out for scientology

    Scientology is well beyond a joke and is every day being considered to be a destructive organization that has earned it's right to be completely dismantled and destroyed.

    Leah Remini may well be the catalyst to the destruction of hubbard's "Total Freedom Trap"
    https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Fishman/atack-freedom-trap.html
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  37. The Wrong Guy Member

    Scientology’s founder in 1948: Dianetics was ‘unfrigidizing’ women into ‘nymphos’

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    A 1948 letter written by L. Ron Hubbard that Lawrence Wright quotes in his 2013 history of Scientology, Going Clear, is going on the auction block in New York on June 14, and it’s really fun to see it in its entirety on the Christie’s website.

    The auction features two letters written by Hubbard to the man he considered his best friend at the time, another pulp writer, Russell Hays, who was from Kansas but who Hubbard met while on holiday with his first wife, Polly, in Encinitas, California in 1934.

    Continued at https://tonyortega.org/2018/05/18/s...anetics-was-unfrigidizing-women-into-nymphos/

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